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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:30:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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There are no angels.

A - freakin' - men.... [1]

Take care.

Tom

How did you like that lobster book, by the way?

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:17:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:30:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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There are no angels.

A - freakin' - men.... [1]

Take care.

Tom

How did you like that lobster book, by the way?

It's on the top of my pile of winter books - I was afraid that if I
got into it, I'd waste a couple of summer days reading it.

There is such a dearth of good reading material out there today that I
ration my books. And I don't particularly care for action or
adventure novels, except for sci-fi and that genre has pretty much
gotten VERY boring and predictable. I've read every 19th century
sailing hero novel ever written, five times over I might add, so
that's out.

I'm even thinking of breaking down and buying a DVD player for my
office so I can catch up on movies this winter.

~~ sigh ~~ it's tough being old, 'ya know? :)

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:17:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:30:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

There are no angels.

A - freakin' - men.... [1]

Take care.

Tom

How did you like that lobster book, by the way?

It's on the top of my pile of winter books - I was afraid that if I
got into it, I'd waste a couple of summer days reading it.

There is such a dearth of good reading material out there today that I
ration my books. And I don't particularly care for action or
adventure novels, except for sci-fi and that genre has pretty much
gotten VERY boring and predictable. I've read every 19th century
sailing hero novel ever written, five times over I might add, so
that's out.

I'm even thinking of breaking down and buying a DVD player for my
office so I can catch up on movies this winter.

~~ sigh ~~ it's tough being old, 'ya know? :)

Yeah...I know. Two weeks ago, I was out with Da Boyz - the same crew I've
known for almost 20 years. I'm 51, and a youngster who's 47 started whining
about his health, followed by how all supermarket cashiers are idiots. We
took his drink away and told him we'd pants him and toss him in the parking
lot if he kept it up. He was starting to sound like my 82 old mother in law.
:-)

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:17:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:30:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


There are no angels.

A - freakin' - men.... [1]

Take care.

Tom

How did you like that lobster book, by the way?

It's on the top of my pile of winter books - I was afraid that if I
got into it, I'd waste a couple of summer days reading it.

There is such a dearth of good reading material out there today that I
ration my books. And I don't particularly care for action or
adventure novels, except for sci-fi and that genre has pretty much
gotten VERY boring and predictable. I've read every 19th century
sailing hero novel ever written, five times over I might add, so
that's out.

I'm even thinking of breaking down and buying a DVD player for my
office so I can catch up on movies this winter.

~~ sigh ~~ it's tough being old, 'ya know? :)


Yeah...I know. Two weeks ago, I was out with Da Boyz - the same crew I've
known for almost 20 years. I'm 51, and a youngster who's 47 started whining
about his health, followed by how all supermarket cashiers are idiots. We
took his drink away and told him we'd pants him and toss him in the parking
lot if he kept it up. He was starting to sound like my 82 old mother in law.
:-)





Speaking of books, I recommend The Last Sail Down East, which discusses
the end of commercial sailing in the New England to Baltimore areas.
Lots of nice photos, too. Sail power was not uncommon as late as WW II.

Here's a page that references the book:

http://www.hazegray.org/features/schooners/

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:15:24 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

~~ snip age ~~

Speaking of books, I recommend The Last Sail Down East, which discusses
the end of commercial sailing in the New England to Baltimore areas.
Lots of nice photos, too. Sail power was not uncommon as late as WW II.

Here's a page that references the book:

http://www.hazegray.org/features/schooners/

I'll check that out.

Thanks.

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Still waiting for an answer, NOYB:

Do YOU have any bright ideas for getting lazy thinkers to reconsider
the
types of cars they buy, or how they use those cars? Or, is everything
just
fine the way it is?


I'd impose much stiffer gas guzzler taxes on vehicles before I'd tax
gasoline. If the vehicle is necessary for business, I'd make the gas
guzzler tax partially deductible/refundable so that businesses that need
trucks/vans/SUV's aren't squeezed as hard by it.

Logical, although you'd have to work out some sort of highly detailed
scheme
for hobbyists, like someone who raises horses for kicks and needs one of
those huge diesel pickups with a 5th wheel for the trailer. Same for
people
who haul an RV and need that same kind of truck.

I would make no allowance for vehicles used for "hobbies". Hobbies cost
money. If the tax puts a hobby out of reach financially, then it's time to
find another hobby.



It must be realized that this would negatively impact truck/SUV sales, so
the government must offset the tax with huge tax rebates to those
factories
which attain a certain production level of vehicles employing new
fuel-saving technology.

Only if those car makers redesign their SUVs to reflect the fact that
maybe
10% of owners actually need the vehicles geared for off-road use.
Otherwise,
all they'll do is tweak the engines just enough to squeeze under whatever
new limit is set. No redesign, no tax break.

Not if the limit is set high enough. They don't have to reinvent the wheel
(at least not immediately), they just need to build a better mousetrap.





To put it another way, it's EXTREMELY likely that this country could,
in
the
not-so-distant future, exercise some leverage with oil prices in the
same
way I can exercise leverage with new car prices because there are at
least
4
dealers for any brand of car in Rochester NY.

To put it another way, people in relationships will refuse to admit
they're
wrong about even the most trivial crap until they've been dragged
through
194 hours of couples counseling. Analogy: At some point, people need to
give
up their attitude of "God gave every American the right to own whatever
vehicle we want, to drive it as much as we want, and maintain it as
poorly
as we want, and you're a fascist/commie/whatever if you suggest
otherwise."

Do you think it's worth beginning the oil consumption counseling now,
or
doesn't that give you as big a hard-on as seeing cities in flames? A
real
man would get a HUGE woody from being able to tell a supplier to shove
their
product.

Taxing gas isn't the answer.

I'm not referring to taxing. I'm talking about an advertising scheme as
pervasive as what we now see for tobacco, drugs and DWI. Taxing may cut
demand indirectly, but changing minds is direct. If you don't believe
this,
take a peek at what the carbohydrate scandal has done to the earnings of
the
major bakers in this country.


You're assuming that people who buy the gas-guzzlers have a conscience.
Otherwise, advertising won't work. A large gas guzzler premium *will* have
an influence however.

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:03:23 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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~~ sniggappe ~~

~~ sigh ~~ it's tough being old, 'ya know? :)

Yeah...I know. Two weeks ago, I was out with Da Boyz - the same crew I've
known for almost 20 years. I'm 51, and a youngster who's 47 started whining
about his health, followed by how all supermarket cashiers are idiots. We
took his drink away and told him we'd pants him and toss him in the parking
lot if he kept it up. He was starting to sound like my 82 old mother in law.
:-)

Heh - my Platoon has a reunion every year - kind of a last man alive
thing. We all put $100 into a kitty, placed under the control of a
lawyer (now a law firm) whose instructions were to make at least 10%
per annum reviewable every five years and the last man alive get's to
spend it with any charity he so desires. There's a French word for
it, but I can't remember what it is.

Anyway, last years annual event, one of the guys started with the same
crap only in this case he was complaining about the lack of roughage
in diets and it degraded from there with his complaints about his
health.

We threw a bucket of ice over his head. :)

All the best,

Tom
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"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:03:23 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
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~~ sniggappe ~~

~~ sigh ~~ it's tough being old, 'ya know? :)

Yeah...I know. Two weeks ago, I was out with Da Boyz - the same crew I've
known for almost 20 years. I'm 51, and a youngster who's 47 started
whining
about his health, followed by how all supermarket cashiers are idiots. We
took his drink away and told him we'd pants him and toss him in the
parking
lot if he kept it up. He was starting to sound like my 82 old mother in
law.
:-)

Heh - my Platoon has a reunion every year - kind of a last man alive
thing. We all put $100 into a kitty, placed under the control of a
lawyer (now a law firm) whose instructions were to make at least 10%
per annum reviewable every five years and the last man alive get's to
spend it with any charity he so desires. There's a French word for
it, but I can't remember what it is.

It's a phrase, not a word: Une boîte du vin.

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:08:09 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:03:23 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
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~~ sniggappe ~~

~~ sigh ~~ it's tough being old, 'ya know? :)

Yeah...I know. Two weeks ago, I was out with Da Boyz - the same crew I've
known for almost 20 years. I'm 51, and a youngster who's 47 started
whining
about his health, followed by how all supermarket cashiers are idiots. We
took his drink away and told him we'd pants him and toss him in the
parking
lot if he kept it up. He was starting to sound like my 82 old mother in
law.
:-)

Heh - my Platoon has a reunion every year - kind of a last man alive
thing. We all put $100 into a kitty, placed under the control of a
lawyer (now a law firm) whose instructions were to make at least 10%
per annum reviewable every five years and the last man alive get's to
spend it with any charity he so desires. There's a French word for
it, but I can't remember what it is.

It's a phrase, not a word: Une boîte du vin.

A box of wine? Is this related to the WWI thing where everybody
passed along a bottle until the last man?

I thought it was one word and started with a T?

Then again, I don't speak French very well. Spanish and Vietnamese
with a touch of Laotian unfortunately.

All the best,

Tom
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"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

It's a phrase, not a word: Une boîte du vin.


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
A box of wine?

My wife loves boxed wine, but I can't imagine the French being impressed
with it...

... Is this related to the WWI thing where everybody
passed along a bottle until the last man?

Possibly.


I thought it was one word and started with a T?

Tontine. I'm not sure if it's French or Latinate Legalese.

One of the best episodes (imho of course) of TV M.A.S.H. is where Col.
Potter receives a bottle of fine French wine, a tontine from some of his
best WW1 buddies.

Regards
Doug King