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basskisser October 19th 04 01:37 PM

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"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
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Bass,
Have you found a new cure for ADHD? How about clinical depression,

bipolar
disorder, Tourette's Disorder and Schizophrenia? Some of us thought
the
only acceptable treatment for these disorders were to use

pharmacology
to
correct the chemical imbalance in the brain.

It looks like you are smarter than Harvard Medical School and the

NIMH.
Keep up the good work.


Asslicker has chosen not to correct the obvious severe imbalances in

his
brain.

Please show what facts you have that, if you mean me and are doing the
childish name calling thing again, I have "severe impalances in (my)
brain".


This last post of your proved that very thing.


LMAO..............'impalances' sic what idiot..........of course now
asslicker will try to pass it off as a typo.......too bad the 'b' is nowhere
close to the 'p'

Fritz, do you have enough brain to debate the subject at hand, or just
act stupid. No wonder your wife ran you off.

Jon Smithe October 19th 04 02:37 PM

Bass,
Did you bother to read the articles and who was making the claims? Do you
have one double blind study conducted by a medical institute to back up
these claims and the percent of improvement and the percent who is improved?

For what it is worth, I believe diet can make a difference, because in
effect you are changing the chemicals in the brain by your diet (you are
what you eat). The real question is can you change it enough to make a
difference in the majority of people who have the disorder.

This reminds me of link for the description of whiskey that proved your
definition was incorrect.

It is getting very hard to discuss anything with you, because it seems your
comprehension skills are lacking. Have you tried to alter your diet?

m...
"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
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OK, how do you treat either the symptoms or the cause without the use of
psychotropic drugs?

PS - The cause of these illnesses is a chemical imbalance in the brain
and
the symptoms of the chemical illness is the result of this chemical
imbalance.


Many, many tests have shown, without a doubt, that the symptoms of
ADHD can be lessened, or stopped altogether with diet, and behavior
modification. I'd suggest a simple google search. I found a few
thousand websites related to this subject. Here are a few.
http://www.feingold.org/home.html
http://www.newideas.net/adddiet.htm
http://www.adhdhelp.org/diet-adhd.htm
http://www.eklhad.net/adhd.html

As I've stated, there are a few thousand more sites that deal with
ADHD and diet. Now for Tourette's:
http://www.nutritioninstitute.com/To..._Syndrome.html
http://www.tourette-syndrome.com/holistic.htm
http://neuro-www.mgh.harvard.edu/for...genicdiet.html

So, as you see, both respond quite well to dietary changes. You really
should learn to use Google, it's a great research tool. Glad I could
help.




Jon Smithe October 19th 04 02:45 PM

NYOB,

If you look at his links, it includes someone posts in a NG forum (and we
know they are always accurate bg ) another one states : : "I am not trained
in medicine, pharmacy, or nutrition, hence I am not qualified to give advice
in any of these areas. What follows is merely a personal account of my son's
condition and the methods we employ to treat it. These methods are not
generally applicable, and may not be appropriate for you or your child. "

The other ones all seem to be selling books or nutritional supplements.

I do believe some children with mild ADD can be treated without medications,
and some are misdiagnosed, but as usual Bass provides links that are useless
in proving his point.


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
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OK, how do you treat either the symptoms or the cause without the use
of
psychotropic drugs?

PS - The cause of these illnesses is a chemical imbalance in the brain
and
the symptoms of the chemical illness is the result of this chemical
imbalance.


I'd lik to hear basskisser's response as to what causes the chemical
imbalance...and how he believes it can be treated without medications.


Many, many tests have shown, without a doubt, that the symptoms of
ADHD can be lessened, or stopped altogether with diet, and behavior
modification. I'd suggest a simple google search. I found a few
thousand websites related to this subject. Here are a few.
http://www.feingold.org/home.html
http://www.newideas.net/adddiet.htm
http://www.adhdhelp.org/diet-adhd.htm
http://www.eklhad.net/adhd.html

As I've stated, there are a few thousand more sites that deal with
ADHD and diet. Now for Tourette's:
http://www.nutritioninstitute.com/To..._Syndrome.html
http://www.tourette-syndrome.com/holistic.htm
http://neuro-www.mgh.harvard.edu/for...genicdiet.html




Jon Smithe October 19th 04 02:46 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...

Fritz, do you have enough brain to debate the subject at hand, or just
act stupid. No wonder your wife ran you off.


Bass, shouldn't you follow your own advice.




P.Fritz October 19th 04 02:48 PM


"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
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Bass,
Did you bother to read the articles and who was making the claims? Do you
have one double blind study conducted by a medical institute to back up
these claims and the percent of improvement and the percent who is

improved?

The fact is that anybody can create a website, and post just about anything
on it. Medical myths run rampant on the internet.



For what it is worth, I believe diet can make a difference, because in
effect you are changing the chemicals in the brain by your diet (you are
what you eat). The real question is can you change it enough to make a
difference in the majority of people who have the disorder.

This reminds me of link for the description of whiskey that proved your
definition was incorrect.


That was a good one......right up there with his union apprentice post.
LOL


It is getting very hard to discuss anything with you, because it seems

your
comprehension skills are lacking. Have you tried to alter your diet?


Lacking? More like non existant



m...
"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
news:lkubd.255884$3l3.104102@attbi_s03...
OK, how do you treat either the symptoms or the cause without the use

of
psychotropic drugs?

PS - The cause of these illnesses is a chemical imbalance in the brain
and
the symptoms of the chemical illness is the result of this chemical
imbalance.


Many, many tests have shown, without a doubt, that the symptoms of
ADHD can be lessened, or stopped altogether with diet, and behavior
modification. I'd suggest a simple google search. I found a few
thousand websites related to this subject. Here are a few.
http://www.feingold.org/home.html
http://www.newideas.net/adddiet.htm
http://www.adhdhelp.org/diet-adhd.htm
http://www.eklhad.net/adhd.html

As I've stated, there are a few thousand more sites that deal with
ADHD and diet. Now for Tourette's:
http://www.nutritioninstitute.com/To..._Syndrome.html
http://www.tourette-syndrome.com/holistic.htm

http://neuro-www.mgh.harvard.edu/for...genicdiet.html

So, as you see, both respond quite well to dietary changes. You really
should learn to use Google, it's a great research tool. Glad I could
help.






P.Fritz October 19th 04 02:57 PM


"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
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Fritz, do you have enough brain to debate the subject at hand, or just
act stupid. No wonder your wife ran you off.


Bass, shouldn't you follow your own advice.


Poor asslicker.........stooping to a baseless personal attack to cover his
own shortcomings......quite comical to watch the deparate moron flounce
around ard refusing to 'cow down' to anyone......... LMAO







NOYB October 19th 04 04:45 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
news:lkubd.255884$3l3.104102@attbi_s03...
OK, how do you treat either the symptoms or the cause without the use of
psychotropic drugs?

PS - The cause of these illnesses is a chemical imbalance in the brain
and
the symptoms of the chemical illness is the result of this chemical
imbalance.


Many, many tests have shown, without a doubt, that the symptoms of
ADHD can be lessened, or stopped altogether with diet, and behavior
modification. I'd suggest a simple google search. I found a few
thousand websites related to this subject. Here are a few.
http://www.feingold.org/home.html
http://www.newideas.net/adddiet.htm
http://www.adhdhelp.org/diet-adhd.htm
http://www.eklhad.net/adhd.html

As I've stated, there are a few thousand more sites that deal with
ADHD and diet. Now for Tourette's:
http://www.nutritioninstitute.com/To..._Syndrome.html
http://www.tourette-syndrome.com/holistic.htm
http://neuro-www.mgh.harvard.edu/for...genicdiet.html

So, as you see, both respond quite well to dietary changes. You really
should learn to use Google, it's a great research tool. Glad I could
help.


You want to help? Show me a published, peer-reviewed journal article on
Medline about how "diet" will help ADHD.




NOYB October 19th 04 04:49 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
news:lkubd.255884$3l3.104102@attbi_s03...
OK, how do you treat either the symptoms or the cause without the use
of
psychotropic drugs?

PS - The cause of these illnesses is a chemical imbalance in the brain
and
the symptoms of the chemical illness is the result of this chemical
imbalance.


I'd lik to hear basskisser's response as to what causes the chemical
imbalance...and how he believes it can be treated without medications.


Many, many tests have shown, without a doubt, that the symptoms of
ADHD can be lessened, or stopped altogether with diet, and behavior
modification. I'd suggest a simple google search. I found a few
thousand websites related to this subject. Here are a few.
http://www.feingold.org/home.html
http://www.newideas.net/adddiet.htm
http://www.adhdhelp.org/diet-adhd.htm
http://www.eklhad.net/adhd.html

As I've stated, there are a few thousand more sites that deal with
ADHD and diet. Now for Tourette's:
http://www.nutritioninstitute.com/To..._Syndrome.html
http://www.tourette-syndrome.com/holistic.htm
http://neuro-www.mgh.harvard.edu/for...genicdiet.html


LOL. You're obviously too dumb to realize the difference between a
well-researched, peer-reviewed article in a medical journal, and some
nutritionist or PhD's unresearched theory presented as fact on a
fly-by-night website.




NOYB October 19th 04 04:51 PM

I've tried steering him to Medline. Let's see what non-pharmacological
treatment modalities he comes up with.


"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
news:fU8dd.284999$3l3.59411@attbi_s03...
NYOB,

If you look at his links, it includes someone posts in a NG forum (and we
know they are always accurate bg ) another one states : : "I am not
trained in medicine, pharmacy, or nutrition, hence I am not qualified to
give advice in any of these areas. What follows is merely a personal
account of my son's condition and the methods we employ to treat it. These
methods are not generally applicable, and may not be appropriate for you
or your child. "

The other ones all seem to be selling books or nutritional supplements.

I do believe some children with mild ADD can be treated without
medications, and some are misdiagnosed, but as usual Bass provides links
that are useless in proving his point.


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
news:lkubd.255884$3l3.104102@attbi_s03...
OK, how do you treat either the symptoms or the cause without the use
of
psychotropic drugs?

PS - The cause of these illnesses is a chemical imbalance in the brain
and
the symptoms of the chemical illness is the result of this chemical
imbalance.

I'd lik to hear basskisser's response as to what causes the chemical
imbalance...and how he believes it can be treated without medications.


Many, many tests have shown, without a doubt, that the symptoms of
ADHD can be lessened, or stopped altogether with diet, and behavior
modification. I'd suggest a simple google search. I found a few
thousand websites related to this subject. Here are a few.
http://www.feingold.org/home.html
http://www.newideas.net/adddiet.htm
http://www.adhdhelp.org/diet-adhd.htm
http://www.eklhad.net/adhd.html

As I've stated, there are a few thousand more sites that deal with
ADHD and diet. Now for Tourette's:
http://www.nutritioninstitute.com/To..._Syndrome.html
http://www.tourette-syndrome.com/holistic.htm
http://neuro-www.mgh.harvard.edu/for...genicdiet.html






NOYB October 19th 04 04:52 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
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Bass,
Have you found a new cure for ADHD? How about clinical depression,
bipolar
disorder, Tourette's Disorder and Schizophrenia? Some of us thought
the
only acceptable treatment for these disorders were to use pharmacology
to
correct the chemical imbalance in the brain.

It looks like you are smarter than Harvard Medical School and the
NIMH.
Keep up the good work.


Oh, my god you are stupid!!! Please show where I've every said that
there is a CURE for any of the above. I simply, and correctly stated
that most narrow minded doctors, not all, treat the symptoms, not the
cause. Treatment, and total cure are two different things, idiot.


So what's the cause of ADHD? And what are the preferred
non-pharmacological
treatment modalities?


diet.


LOL.




Many, many tests have shown, without a doubt, that the symptoms of
ADHD can be lessened, or stopped altogether with diet, and behavior
modification. I'd suggest a simple google search. I found a few
thousand websites related to this subject. Here are a few.
http://www.feingold.org/home.html
http://www.newideas.net/adddiet.htm
http://www.adhdhelp.org/diet-adhd.htm
http://www.eklhad.net/adhd.html



You really are too dumb to debate.




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