NOYB wrote:

Harry has criticized Bush for just reading the headlines and not the
stories...but the hypocrisy here is unbelievable.

Did you watch any of Duelfer's testimony, Harry? Read any of the
transcripts? Read any of the summaries in the actual report? It's 1500
pages long, and you summarize it a five words: "no weapons of mass
destruction"? Sheesh...talk about intellectually lazy.


Yeah, I thought it was especially pathetic when Senator Warner tossed
pro-Bush softballs his way. But the most telling remark in the areas
you're trying to bring to the forefront concerned Saddam and his
posturing...he didn't have the WMDs, but he wanted Iran to think he did.

Bush blew our credibility around the world.


--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04

On 08 Oct 2004 16:27:32 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Your guy won by 500 votes (?)

An opportune time to bring back up the voter fraud that happened in
Florida. The right likes to make jokes about the stupid voters in
Palm Beach county, but thousands of black voters in other counties
either were denied the right to vote, or had their vote thrown out.

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/08/De...zes_blac.shtml

"No county produced more spoiled ballots than Duval - nearly 27,000 -
and they were concentrated in African-American neighborhoods. An
estimated one in five black votes was tossed out in Duval, three times
the rate of white votes."

Little doubt this was pure fraud. Little doubt in was facilitated by
Republicans with the approval of the presidents brother. Little doubt
if these votes had been counted, Bush would not be the president.

last time around, and thought it was a mandate to
take the country ridiculously to the right.

For me, that's the part that is the hardest to take. Mandate my ass,
he didn't even win the election.

bb

"JimH" wrote in message ...
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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Now why does the left insist that WMD were the only reason we went in?

I guess it was something the President said:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0021007-8.html

The left should know better than to believe President Bush about anything.

So can you point out the section of the speech where Bush said WMD were the
only reason for us going in Chuck?

Hell, no he can't! BushCo came up with completely different reasons
several times! Here in lies the problem, Bush and his henchmen lied us
into a war. I'm glad that you've realized that Bush changed his mind
several times.

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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Now why does the left insist that WMD were the only reason we went
in?

I guess it was something the President said:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0021007-8.html

The left should know better than to believe President Bush about
anything.

So can you point out the section of the speech where Bush said WMD were
the
only reason for us going in Chuck?

Hell, no he can't! BushCo came up with completely different reasons
several times! Here in lies the problem, Bush and his henchmen lied us
into a war. I'm glad that you've realized that Bush changed his mind
several times.

He has not changed his mind about anything. If you have proof to show
otherwise please post it.

In Duval, about 22,000 presidential ballots were uncounted because of double
votes and 5,000 because no presidential vote was recorded.

That's the problem with a "punch card" ballot.

Don't like the way somebody voted?
Punch a second hole for a second candidate in the same race, after the voter
leaves the building. Joila. No more "wrong" vote.

To save time, you can even pass out ballots with the hole for GWB pre-punched.
The votes of folks who intend to vote for GWB aren't efffected, they simply
push the stylus through an already existing hole.
The po' dumb folk who don't see the many advantages of a right wing reactionary
in the WH? Thier votes for the wrong candidate are tossed out, "sorry, two
holes punched for president."

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
In Duval, about 22,000 presidential ballots were uncounted because of
double
votes and 5,000 because no presidential vote was recorded.

That's the problem with a "punch card" ballot.

Don't like the way somebody voted?
Punch a second hole for a second candidate in the same race, after the
voter
leaves the building. Joila. No more "wrong" vote.

To save time, you can even pass out ballots with the hole for GWB
pre-punched.
The votes of folks who intend to vote for GWB aren't efffected, they
simply
push the stylus through an already existing hole.
The po' dumb folk who don't see the many advantages of a right wing
reactionary
in the WH? Thier votes for the wrong candidate are tossed out, "sorry, two
holes punched for president."



I see the black helicopters following you again Chuck.

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
In Duval, about 22,000 presidential ballots were uncounted because of
double
votes and 5,000 because no presidential vote was recorded.

That's the problem with a "punch card" ballot.

Don't like the way somebody voted?
Punch a second hole for a second candidate in the same race, after the
voter
leaves the building. Joila. No more "wrong" vote.

To save time, you can even pass out ballots with the hole for GWB
pre-punched.
The votes of folks who intend to vote for GWB aren't efffected, they
simply
push the stylus through an already existing hole.
The po' dumb folk who don't see the many advantages of a right wing
reactionary
in the WH? Thier votes for the wrong candidate are tossed out, "sorry,
two
holes punched for president."



I see the black helicopters following you again Chuck.

Make that "are following you again"

;-)

You reckon that's how Clinton got in, Chuck?

John H

No, but I've always had a tough time believing that 27,000 people- all living
in the same county in Florida- were dumb enough to vote twice for POTUS when
there probably weren't 2700 people in the entire rest of the country combined
who made the same mistake.

Are Floridians just particularly stupid? And all the most especially stupid
just happen to live in the same county? I think not.

On 09 Oct 2004 00:32:18 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

And all the most especially stupid just happen to live in the same
county?

Representative Chris Shays - R, CT - possibly the single most useless,
intemperate, boring, intellectually dishonest and just plain lazy US
Representative since Representative Sam Gejendsen - D, CT who
thankfully was voted out four years ago.

And they still keep electing him.

It's almost beyond belief.

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown

I guess there is no safe way of voting.


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
In Duval, about 22,000 presidential ballots were uncounted because of
double
votes and 5,000 because no presidential vote was recorded.

That's the problem with a "punch card" ballot.

Don't like the way somebody voted?
Punch a second hole for a second candidate in the same race, after the
voter
leaves the building. Joila. No more "wrong" vote.

To save time, you can even pass out ballots with the hole for GWB
pre-punched.
The votes of folks who intend to vote for GWB aren't efffected, they
simply
push the stylus through an already existing hole.
The po' dumb folk who don't see the many advantages of a right wing
reactionary
in the WH? Thier votes for the wrong candidate are tossed out, "sorry, two
holes punched for president."