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John Gaquin September 24th 04 10:41 PM

Quote of the Day
 

SORRY to all concerned -- I forgot the "OT"

Mea Culpa



John Gaquin September 24th 04 10:48 PM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:SE%4d.7230

Correct the last sentence: "....whenever we GUESS it's in our national
interest".



Why would you want to alter the quote?



Gould 0738 September 25th 04 07:36 AM

Yes, but if you discount the hard-left base that would claim disaster
regardless of circumstances, its not such an impressive list after all. The
fact is that about 80-85% of the country is pacified, and the


Had to laugh at Ashcroft today. He sees nothing wrong with an election held
only in selected portions of the country. It's better than no election at all,
he says.

Maybe he can apply that logic to the US?
Just hold the election in the red states? :-)

Doug Kanter September 25th 04 02:56 PM


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:SE%4d.7230

Correct the last sentence: "....whenever we GUESS it's in our national
interest".



Why would you want to alter the quote?



Because the word "guess" is, in retrospect, the correct one.



Doug Kanter September 25th 04 02:58 PM

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

What's important is that when Kerry finds out the information he's been
given is bad, he revisits the issue and sometimes adjusts his
conclusions.


More accurately, "...when Kerry finds out the [position] he's been
[espousing] is [politically unpopular], he revisits the issue and

sometimes
adjusts his
conclusions..."


Do you wish for a world where nothing changes from day to day? If so, I'd
suggest you buy yourself the computer game "Sim City", create a little
world, save the game at that point, and just sit there and look at it. Or,
if you prefer not to use electricity, you could probably achieve the same
thing with about $300 worth of Legos.



John Gaquin September 25th 04 04:42 PM


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

HOT DAMN!!!!

With one cast, I hooked the 2 Ks, Chuckie, and Thunder!

It's fun to fish!

:-)



Harry Krause September 25th 04 04:43 PM

John Gaquin wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

HOT DAMN!!!!

With one cast, I hooked the 2 Ks, Chuckie, and Thunder!

It's fun to fish!

:-)



The only thing you've ever hooked is your foreskin in your zipper.

--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

John Gaquin September 25th 04 04:43 PM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:TVd5d.4956


Because the word "guess" is, in retrospect, the correct one.



If you wish. But your man, Kerry, might not appreciate your alterations.



John Gaquin September 25th 04 04:53 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message



The only thing you've ever hooked is your foreskin in your zipper.


Good answer. Pithy. On point. Substantive.



NOYB September 25th 04 05:03 PM


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:04:55 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

John Gaquin wrote:
The
fact is that about 80-85% of the country is pacified, and the remaining
15% is a hell-hole.


LOL, that 85% must include all the uninhabited desert, because the cites
sure aren't pacified.


If journalists sent their cameras into the worst parts of Compton, the
Bronx, and Chicago's south side (all Democratic strong-holds by the way),
you'd get a total different picture of the U.S too.




NOYB September 25th 04 05:15 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Yes, but if you discount the hard-left base that would claim disaster
regardless of circumstances, its not such an impressive list after all.
The
fact is that about 80-85% of the country is pacified, and the


Had to laugh at Ashcroft today. He sees nothing wrong with an election
held
only in selected portions of the country. It's better than no election at
all,
he says.

Maybe he can apply that logic to the US?
Just hold the election in the red states? :-)



Haven't I been saying that for the last 12 months? We'll take the
Republican-sponsored programs ...and you guys take the Democratic ones like
Social Security, Medicare, and Socialized medicine. But don't come crying
to us when you can't afford to pay for your social programs (because there
are no rich people to soak with taxes), the doctors all flee your "New"
America, and some third World terrorist-sponsoring country invades you
because you have no military. Oh yeah...and we get the oil in ANWR, Texas,
and the Gulf, as well as the nukes in the silos across the Midwest and
Plains states. If you don't like it, then too bad...'cause our military
will be stronger than yours.





Harry Krause September 25th 04 05:16 PM

NOYB wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Yes, but if you discount the hard-left base that would claim disaster
regardless of circumstances, its not such an impressive list after all.
The
fact is that about 80-85% of the country is pacified, and the


Had to laugh at Ashcroft today. He sees nothing wrong with an election
held
only in selected portions of the country. It's better than no election at
all,
he says.

Maybe he can apply that logic to the US?
Just hold the election in the red states? :-)



Haven't I been saying that for the last 12 months? We'll take the
Republican-sponsored programs ...and you guys take the Democratic ones like
Social Security, Medicare, and Socialized medicine. But don't come crying
to us when you can't afford to pay for your social programs (because there
are no rich people to soak with taxes), the doctors all flee your "New"
America, and some third World terrorist-sponsoring country invades you
because you have no military. Oh yeah...and we get the oil in ANWR, Texas,
and the Gulf, as well as the nukes in the silos across the Midwest and
Plains states. If you don't like it, then too bad...'cause our military
will be stronger than yours.





Underneath your inexperience in life, you really are a kind of
militaristic fascist, eh?

--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

Doug Kanter September 25th 04 05:40 PM


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

news:TVd5d.4956


Because the word "guess" is, in retrospect, the correct one.



If you wish. But your man, Kerry, might not appreciate your alterations.



Doesn't matter. Your president STILL functions under the delusions you
pointed out by providing the quote. At least Kerry has sworn off that
nonsense.



NOYB September 25th 04 05:42 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Yes, but if you discount the hard-left base that would claim disaster
regardless of circumstances, its not such an impressive list after all.
The
fact is that about 80-85% of the country is pacified, and the

Had to laugh at Ashcroft today. He sees nothing wrong with an election
held
only in selected portions of the country. It's better than no election
at
all,
he says.

Maybe he can apply that logic to the US?
Just hold the election in the red states? :-)



Haven't I been saying that for the last 12 months? We'll take the
Republican-sponsored programs ...and you guys take the Democratic ones
like
Social Security, Medicare, and Socialized medicine. But don't come
crying
to us when you can't afford to pay for your social programs (because
there
are no rich people to soak with taxes), the doctors all flee your "New"
America, and some third World terrorist-sponsoring country invades you
because you have no military. Oh yeah...and we get the oil in ANWR,
Texas,
and the Gulf, as well as the nukes in the silos across the Midwest and
Plains states. If you don't like it, then too bad...'cause our military
will be stronger than yours.





Underneath your inexperience in life, you really are a kind of
militaristic fascist, eh?



I believe that the federal government's primary function is to provide a
strong military for our nation's defense. It of course has other functions,
too...but none as important as its primary function.




John Gaquin September 25th 04 09:08 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message

When you can post without gratuitous insult, you may find that you gain some
credibility.

You guys really believe the bull**** Kerry and the DNC spread out on your
crackers because for you to deal with the truth would shake you to your
foundations, if you really cared. Which you don't.




thunder September 26th 04 02:53 AM

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:59:19 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


It's too bad there is no way to hold Bush and his gang of fascist thugs
personally accountable for what they have done.


Turning them out in November would be a start, but to hold them truly
accountable in a trial is, unfortunately, just wishful thinking.

thunder September 26th 04 03:37 AM

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:03:53 -0400, NOYB wrote:


If journalists sent their cameras into the worst parts of Compton, the
Bronx, and Chicago's south side (all Democratic strong-holds by the way),
you'd get a total different picture of the U.S too.


Just curious. This war has been going on for 1 1/2 years. We are still
losing @ 2 young, American lives, daily. To me, quagmire comes to mind,
but wouldn't you think it is time for a reassessment of our strategies?
You have mentioned Syria and Iran. Do you also propose a national draft
to supply the manpower for any invasions? How about nukes? You are aware
that there are 1.5 billion Muslims. We have @ 10,000 nukes. How many do
you propose we use to kill all 1.5 billion?

Harry Krause September 26th 04 03:38 AM

thunder wrote:
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:03:53 -0400, NOYB wrote:


If journalists sent their cameras into the worst parts of Compton, the
Bronx, and Chicago's south side (all Democratic strong-holds by the way),
you'd get a total different picture of the U.S too.


Just curious. This war has been going on for 1 1/2 years. We are still
losing @ 2 young, American lives, daily. To me, quagmire comes to mind,
but wouldn't you think it is time for a reassessment of our strategies?
You have mentioned Syria and Iran. Do you also propose a national draft
to supply the manpower for any invasions? How about nukes? You are aware
that there are 1.5 billion Muslims. We have @ 10,000 nukes. How many do
you propose we use to kill all 1.5 billion?



Nobby believes in a strong, aggressive, national offense, so long as he
doesn't have to tote a rifle. Maybe he'll send his kids...though he'd
far prefer to send someone else's.




--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

NOYB September 26th 04 05:34 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:03:53 -0400, NOYB wrote:


If journalists sent their cameras into the worst parts of Compton, the
Bronx, and Chicago's south side (all Democratic strong-holds by the
way),
you'd get a total different picture of the U.S too.


Just curious. This war has been going on for 1 1/2 years. We are still
losing @ 2 young, American lives, daily. To me, quagmire comes to mind,
but wouldn't you think it is time for a reassessment of our strategies?
You have mentioned Syria and Iran. Do you also propose a national draft
to supply the manpower for any invasions? How about nukes? You are
aware
that there are 1.5 billion Muslims. We have @ 10,000 nukes. How many do
you propose we use to kill all 1.5 billion?



Nobby believes in a strong, aggressive, national offense, so long as he
doesn't have to tote a rifle. Maybe he'll send his kids...though he'd
far prefer to send someone else's.


If my kids were 18, 20, and 22,( instead of 1, 3, and 5), I'd probably feel
a little bit differently. However, how can you blame me for wanting the
threat dealt with now...instead of when my kids are military age *AND*
facing a nuclear-armed enemy? The danger will only increase by waiting.
Realistically, I'm not *too* worried about a nuclear Iran...because I'm sure
that if we don't deal with them, the Israelis will do it for us.








NOYB September 26th 04 05:04 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

That'll end it in a hurry.



So would nukes.



Harry Krause September 26th 04 06:34 PM

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

That'll end it in a hurry.



So would nukes.


Toss nukes, you get nukes in return. Maybe in your neighborhood. Want
your kids to glow in the dark? Keep advocating use of nukes.

--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

Gould 0738 September 27th 04 04:18 AM

I am not suggesting there are any plans for a draft, but NOYB has
suggested attacks on Syria and Iran.


If NOYB's fantasy comes to fruition and we expand this war, he may be among the
first to go!

From the Selective Service website, "Strategic Goals for 2004"

Strategic Objective 1.1: Within current legislative guidance, enhance the
Agency’s ability
to respond flexibly to a DoD request for health care personnel using the
Agency’s HCPDS.

**********
Strategic Objective 1.2: Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 56 State
Headquarters,
442 Area Offices and 1,980 Local Boards are operational within 75 days of an
authorized
return to conscription.

*********************
Strategic Objective 1.3: Be operationally ready to furnish untrained manpower
within DoD
timelines.

************

Strategic Objective 1.4: Support the Agency’s ability to provide manpower to
the DoD with the development and implementation of updated readiness training
programs.

*************

Strategic Objective 2.1: Improve registration compliance rates.

********

Strategic Objective 2.2: Improve the participation rate in the SSS’ High
School (HS) Registrar Program which is composed of individuals who have agreed
to act as uncompensated Registrars in high schools nationally.

*************

Strategic Objective 2.3: Seek alternative registration methods

*************
Strategic Objective 4.1: Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 48 Alternative
Service Offices and 48 Civilian Review Boards are operational within 96 days
after notification of a return to induction.

***********


Sure sounds like a draft is the farthest thing from the government's mind.


A funny thing occurs to me. The Limbaugh fans who squeal, "Don't let them
register our guns! They might come and take them away!" have no difficulty at
all registering their sons, and soon their daughters for that *exact* purpose.





Harry Krause September 27th 04 04:20 AM

Gould 0738 wrote:
I am not suggesting there are any plans for a draft, but NOYB has
suggested attacks on Syria and Iran.


If NOYB's fantasy comes to fruition and we expand this war, he may be among the
first to go!

From the Selective Service website, "Strategic Goals for 2004"

Strategic Objective 1.1: Within current legislative guidance, enhance the
Agency’s ability
to respond flexibly to a DoD request for health care personnel using the
Agency’s HCPDS.

**********
Strategic Objective 1.2: Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 56 State
Headquarters,
442 Area Offices and 1,980 Local Boards are operational within 75 days of an
authorized
return to conscription.

*********************
Strategic Objective 1.3: Be operationally ready to furnish untrained manpower
within DoD
timelines.

************

Strategic Objective 1.4: Support the Agency’s ability to provide manpower to
the DoD with the development and implementation of updated readiness training
programs.

*************

Strategic Objective 2.1: Improve registration compliance rates.

********

Strategic Objective 2.2: Improve the participation rate in the SSS’ High
School (HS) Registrar Program which is composed of individuals who have agreed
to act as uncompensated Registrars in high schools nationally.

*************

Strategic Objective 2.3: Seek alternative registration methods

*************
Strategic Objective 4.1: Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 48 Alternative
Service Offices and 48 Civilian Review Boards are operational within 96 days
after notification of a return to induction.

***********


Sure sounds like a draft is the farthest thing from the government's mind.


A funny thing occurs to me. The Limbaugh fans who squeal, "Don't let them
register our guns! They might come and take them away!" have no difficulty at
all registering their sons, and soon their daughters for that *exact* purpose.





I'm planning to send in the particulars of several warmongers here, to
the government agency that can best use the information.*






* Not really...but it would be a gas, eh? Imagine the military
conscriptors showing up at a certain house on Nantucket Drive in a
suburb of Cleveland, and taking "jeff," the fellow a poster here once
claimed was his "son" using his account to do exactly what the dad does...



--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

Gould 0738 September 27th 04 04:35 AM

There are plans for a draft, but the Bush-****ters won't dare admit it
until after the elections.



Some folks who are reluctant to register their guns, for fear the government
might take them away, are eager to register their kids for that *exact*
purpose. Go figure.

Harry Krause September 27th 04 04:39 AM

Gould 0738 wrote:
There are plans for a draft, but the Bush-****ters won't dare admit it
until after the elections.



Some folks who are reluctant to register their guns, for fear the government
might take them away, are eager to register their kids for that *exact*
purpose. Go figure.



Easy...they are only "right to life" when it concerns a fetus.


--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

NOYB September 27th 04 06:17 AM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I am not suggesting there are any plans for a draft, but NOYB has
suggested attacks on Syria and Iran.


If NOYB's fantasy comes to fruition and we expand this war, he may be
among the
first to go!


If NOYB's fantasy comes to fruition, we'd use nukes on Iran before they use
them on us.




NOYB September 27th 04 03:42 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

That'll end it in a hurry.



So would nukes.


Toss nukes, you get nukes in return.


From whom?



Harry Krause September 27th 04 03:52 PM

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

That'll end it in a hurry.


So would nukes.


Toss nukes, you get nukes in return.


From whom?


Are you kidding? They're everywhere.

--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

NOYB September 27th 04 04:01 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

That'll end it in a hurry.


So would nukes.


Toss nukes, you get nukes in return.


From whom?


Are you kidding? They're everywhere.


No, I'm not kidding. If Iran or Syria had nukes, they'd already be in the
hands of al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad. In your opinioin,
which terrorist-sponsoring countries already have nukes? I know Pakistan
has them...and Pakistan's northwestern provinces are crawling with al
Qaeda...but the President of that country isn't a sponsor of international
terrorism.



Harry Krause September 27th 04 04:04 PM

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

That'll end it in a hurry.


So would nukes.


Toss nukes, you get nukes in return.

From whom?


Are you kidding? They're everywhere.


No, I'm not kidding. If Iran or Syria had nukes, they'd already be in the
hands of al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad. In your opinioin,
which terrorist-sponsoring countries already have nukes? I know Pakistan
has them...and Pakistan's northwestern provinces are crawling with al
Qaeda...but the President of that country isn't a sponsor of international
terrorism.



Pakistan has nukes, India has nukes, North Korea has nukes, the PRC has
nukes, several of the former Soviet "republics" had nukes in their
possession and the whereabouts of many of those are unknown. And those
republics include Moslem states.

You seem to think there is some great mystery involved in obtaining the
materials for and building a nuclear device.

--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

NOYB September 27th 04 04:20 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

That'll end it in a hurry.


So would nukes.


Toss nukes, you get nukes in return.

From whom?


Are you kidding? They're everywhere.


No, I'm not kidding. If Iran or Syria had nukes, they'd already be in

the
hands of al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad. In your

opinioin,
which terrorist-sponsoring countries already have nukes? I know

Pakistan
has them...and Pakistan's northwestern provinces are crawling with al
Qaeda...but the President of that country isn't a sponsor of

international
terrorism.



Pakistan has nukes, India has nukes, North Korea has nukes, the PRC has
nukes, several of the former Soviet "republics" had nukes in their
possession and the whereabouts of many of those are unknown. And those
republics include Moslem states.


Aside from maybe Pakistan, not one of those countries that you mention are
Muslim states in the Middle East...nor are they sponsoring international
terrorist attacks against the United States or Israel.



Harry Krause September 27th 04 06:57 PM

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

That'll end it in a hurry.


So would nukes.


Toss nukes, you get nukes in return.

From whom?


Are you kidding? They're everywhere.

No, I'm not kidding. If Iran or Syria had nukes, they'd already be in

the
hands of al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad. In your

opinioin,
which terrorist-sponsoring countries already have nukes? I know

Pakistan
has them...and Pakistan's northwestern provinces are crawling with al
Qaeda...but the President of that country isn't a sponsor of

international
terrorism.



Pakistan has nukes, India has nukes, North Korea has nukes, the PRC has
nukes, several of the former Soviet "republics" had nukes in their
possession and the whereabouts of many of those are unknown. And those
republics include Moslem states.


Aside from maybe Pakistan, not one of those countries that you mention are
Muslim states in the Middle East...nor are they sponsoring international
terrorist attacks against the United States or Israel.



Your question :

"In your opinioin, which terrorist-sponsoring countries already have
nukes?"

I answered your question.

Now you are limiting your question.

Which Arab states in the could have nukes?

Almost any of them. Nukes are not something you have to develop on your
own. Some of the republics of the former Sov Union had nukes for sale.
The government of Russia asked for our help in finding, isolating and
guarding these devices. Your idiot president cut the funding drastically
for these safety measures.

As to which nation-states are sponsoring international terrorism, I
thought by now even you would have learned that "states" do not have to
sponsor terrorism for there to be terrorist attacks against us.

In fact, nations almost don't matter in the equation. Right now, there
could be 20 terrorists living in your home town, each with several of
the pieces and parts needed to make a nuke. These folks could be from
anywhere; they could even be home grown.

Perhaps the real enemy is out-of-control conservatism. Seems to me that
all the recent terrorist attacks on the US have been perpetrated by
conservatives. The folks on your side of the political fence seem the
ones who refuse to get along with others.




--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

NOYB September 27th 04 07:06 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Perhaps the real enemy is out-of-control conservatism.


More like out-of-control liberalism. If liberals weren't working so hard to
protect the rights of terrorists, it'd be easier for law enforcement to
ensure that the bad guys either locked up...or dead.




Harry Krause September 27th 04 07:10 PM

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Perhaps the real enemy is out-of-control conservatism.


More like out-of-control liberalism. If liberals weren't working so hard to
protect the rights of terrorists, it'd be easier for law enforcement to
ensure that the bad guys either locked up...or dead.




You really, truly are a fascist.



--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

NOYB September 27th 04 07:24 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Perhaps the real enemy is out-of-control conservatism.


More like out-of-control liberalism. If liberals weren't working so

hard to
protect the rights of terrorists, it'd be easier for law enforcement to
ensure that the bad guys either locked up...or dead.




You really, truly are a fascist.


That only depends on the topic being debated. I'm a hardcore, cold,
heartless, militaristic fascist when the topic is fighting terrorism.




Short Wave Sportfishing September 27th 04 10:14 PM

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:24:48 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Perhaps the real enemy is out-of-control conservatism.

More like out-of-control liberalism. If liberals weren't working so

hard to
protect the rights of terrorists, it'd be easier for law enforcement to
ensure that the bad guys either locked up...or dead.




You really, truly are a fascist.


That only depends on the topic being debated. I'm a hardcore, cold,
heartless, militaristic fascist when the topic is fighting terrorism.


Odd that - so am I, but in this case it was my youngest daughter when
I grounded her once or twice.

Oh well, once a hardcore, cold, heartless, militaristic fascist,
always a yada, yada, yada.....

All the best,

Tom
--------------

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

Taco Heaven September 28th 04 02:47 AM

Gould,

You have been all concerned about the republicans keeping the proposed draft
secret till after the elections.

If you have any problems with the draft you need to contact the following
representative:

The following representative introduced the legislation: Mr. RANGEL Dem.
from NY, Mr. MCDERMOTT Dem from Washington State, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. LEWIS
Dem of Georgia, Mr. STARK Dem from California, and Mr. ABERCROMBIE Dem. from
Hawaii, introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee
on Armed Services.

The bill to reinstate the draft was introduced by democrats as a way to make
sure the privilege have to serve in the armed forces.

I guess the White House and Republicans are not responsible after all.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I am not suggesting there are any plans for a draft, but NOYB has
suggested attacks on Syria and Iran.


If NOYB's fantasy comes to fruition and we expand this war, he may be
among the
first to go!

From the Selective Service website, "Strategic Goals for 2004"

Strategic Objective 1.1: Within current legislative guidance, enhance the
Agency's ability
to respond flexibly to a DoD request for health care personnel using the
Agency's HCPDS.

**********
Strategic Objective 1.2: Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 56 State
Headquarters,
442 Area Offices and 1,980 Local Boards are operational within 75 days of
an
authorized
return to conscription.

*********************
Strategic Objective 1.3: Be operationally ready to furnish untrained
manpower
within DoD
timelines.

************

Strategic Objective 1.4: Support the Agency's ability to provide manpower
to
the DoD with the development and implementation of updated readiness
training
programs.

*************

Strategic Objective 2.1: Improve registration compliance rates.

********

Strategic Objective 2.2: Improve the participation rate in the SSS' High
School (HS) Registrar Program which is composed of individuals who have
agreed
to act as uncompensated Registrars in high schools nationally.

*************

Strategic Objective 2.3: Seek alternative registration methods

*************
Strategic Objective 4.1: Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 48
Alternative
Service Offices and 48 Civilian Review Boards are operational within 96
days
after notification of a return to induction.

***********


Sure sounds like a draft is the farthest thing from the government's mind.


A funny thing occurs to me. The Limbaugh fans who squeal, "Don't let them
register our guns! They might come and take them away!" have no difficulty
at
all registering their sons, and soon their daughters for that *exact*
purpose.







Taco Heaven September 28th 04 02:47 AM

Gould,

You have been all concerned about the republicans keeping the proposed draft
secret till after the elections.

If you have any problems with the draft you need to contact the following
representative:

The following representative introduced the legislation: Mr. RANGEL Dem.
from NY, Mr. MCDERMOTT Dem from Washington State, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. LEWIS
Dem of Georgia, Mr. STARK Dem from California, and Mr. ABERCROMBIE Dem. from
Hawaii, introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee
on Armed Services.

The bill to reinstate the draft was introduced by democrats as a way to make
sure the privilege have to serve in the armed forces.

I guess the White House and Republicans are not responsible after all.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
There are plans for a draft, but the Bush-****ters won't dare admit it
until after the elections.



Some folks who are reluctant to register their guns, for fear the
government
might take them away, are eager to register their kids for that *exact*
purpose. Go figure.




Gould 0738 September 28th 04 05:13 AM

Gould,

You have been all concerned about the republicans keeping the proposed draft
secret till after the elections.


Taco, not so.

I have simply posted items from the Selective Service website stating that the
2004 goal is to be prepared to furnish XXXXX troops withing XXXXX time
"following the authorization to resume conscription.

If the Republicans wanted to keep this plan a secret, they wouldn't post it on
the internet, would they???

With any luck, the Repubs won't have much to say about whether there's a draft,
or not, after the election. :-)

Time to derail the New American Century disaster plan. Time for a change. We'll
have to see how courageous, or scared, the electorate is in a few weeks.

Taco Heaven September 28th 04 05:20 AM

Gould,
Do you disagree that the party you support wants the draft reinstated?


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Gould,

You have been all concerned about the republicans keeping the proposed
draft
secret till after the elections.


Taco, not so.

I have simply posted items from the Selective Service website stating that
the
2004 goal is to be prepared to furnish XXXXX troops withing XXXXX time
"following the authorization to resume conscription.

If the Republicans wanted to keep this plan a secret, they wouldn't post
it on
the internet, would they???

With any luck, the Repubs won't have much to say about whether there's a
draft,
or not, after the election. :-)

Time to derail the New American Century disaster plan. Time for a change.
We'll
have to see how courageous, or scared, the electorate is in a few weeks.





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