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Whether or not you agree or disagree with Bush's policies, you'll be amazed
at the following poll from University of Pennsylvania.

University of Pennsylvania National Annenberg Election Survey. Nov.
28-Dec. 1, 2003. N=847 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

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NOYB wrote:

Whether or not you agree or disagree with Bush's policies, you'll be amazed
at the following poll from University of Pennsylvania.

University of Pennsylvania National Annenberg Election Survey. Nov.
28-Dec. 1, 2003. N=847 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

.

"Now I'd like to ask you how you feel about George W. Bush as a
person, as opposed to how you feel about the job he is doing. Do you have a
favorable or unfavorable opinion of him as a person?"

Favor-
able
Unfav-
orable
Not
Sure

%
%
%

11/28 - 12/1/03 72 19 9
11/23-26/03 65 24 11




72% of this country has a *favorable* opinion of the man "as a person".
Since the left's hate for the man
dominates about half of the news (and *all* of NPR's news), you would think
it was higher than 19% of this
country that so despises him.





So, the conclusion is, nice guy, but total foch-up...?


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I dunno Harry. This one has me totally perplexed. There is an absolute
venom towards Bush on your side of the aisle. I've read articles from
writers who stated they hate even the way he walks. Yet, that message only
seems to come to those liberals that have a strong interest in politics.
Obviously, the hate message isn't resonating with the great majority of the
country.

His job approval ratings have been 52% for some time. His job disapproval
rating is 34%, which has been falling. That means out of every 100 people,
19 hate his guts...no matter what policies he adopts. An additional 15
dislike his policies. However, 52 like his policies. The remaining 14 have
no favorable or unfavorable opinion on his policies.

I guess it's safe to assume that those 14 without opinions on his policy
will either a) not vote, or b) vote for Bush because he's affable.

Either way, it seems he'll be hard to beat.







"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Whether or not you agree or disagree with Bush's policies, you'll be

amazed
at the following poll from University of Pennsylvania.

University of Pennsylvania National Annenberg Election Survey.

Nov.
28-Dec. 1, 2003. N=847 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

.

"Now I'd like to ask you how you feel about George W. Bush as a
person, as opposed to how you feel about the job he is doing. Do you

have a
favorable or unfavorable opinion of him as a person?"

Favor-
able
Unfav-
orable
Not
Sure

%
%
%

11/28 - 12/1/03 72 19 9
11/23-26/03 65 24 11




72% of this country has a *favorable* opinion of the man "as a person".
Since the left's hate for the man
dominates about half of the news (and *all* of NPR's news), you would

think
it was higher than 19% of this
country that so despises him.





So, the conclusion is, nice guy, but total foch-up...?


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On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 04:14:00 +0000, NOYB wrote:

I dunno Harry. This one has me totally perplexed. There is an absolute
venom towards Bush on your side of the aisle. I've read articles from
writers who stated they hate even the way he walks. Yet, that message
only seems to come to those liberals that have a strong interest in
politics. Obviously, the hate message isn't resonating with the great
majority of the country.


That venom has been with us for some time, and isn't limited to one side
of the aisle. I never liked Clinton, but to this day, I am amazed at the
rabid hatred he inspires in some. Personally, I don't think either
President is deserving of hatred, and find the polarization troubling and
dangerous. I suspect the reasons lie in both sides perceptions that
Washington can not effectively run the country. Blame for this is often
the "other side".
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thunder wrote:

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 04:14:00 +0000, NOYB wrote:

I dunno Harry. This one has me totally perplexed. There is an absolute
venom towards Bush on your side of the aisle. I've read articles from
writers who stated they hate even the way he walks. Yet, that message
only seems to come to those liberals that have a strong interest in
politics. Obviously, the hate message isn't resonating with the great
majority of the country.


That venom has been with us for some time, and isn't limited to one side
of the aisle. I never liked Clinton, but to this day, I am amazed at the
rabid hatred he inspires in some. Personally, I don't think either
President is deserving of hatred, and find the polarization troubling and
dangerous. I suspect the reasons lie in both sides perceptions that
Washington can not effectively run the country. Blame for this is often
the "other side".


Aside from the fact that tens of millions of Americans believe Bush
stole the election and that he is too stupid to be president and that he
has made a lot of dumb, hurtful decisions since presuming office, there
are all those things he has said and done to divide Americans into as
many camps as possible. Bush is getting just what he deserves, and heat
hasn't even been turned on yet. Starting slowly next month and then
building geometrically afterwards, Bush will be entering a political
firestorm of his own making. I've seen some of the storyboards of
upcoming television commercials. They're delightful.

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I've seen some of the storyboards of
upcoming television commercials. They're delightful.


No they're not.

For the next 11 months we will engage in an experiment to see which side can
gather the most votes from Boobus Americanus by saying hateful things about the
other. Sadly enough, after the mega-millions spent by political candidates to
slander one another- we draw very little distinction between disdain for the
"wrong" candidate and disdain for the people who support that candidate.

The lies, the mischaracterizations, the demonizations, and the wretched,
smoking poison will flow from Democrat and Republican sources alike. As usual,
there will be very little discussion of what either candidate proposes to do
and much more about the certain apocalypse that will be spawned by the election
of the not-so-esteemed opponent.

Talk radio has kept this crap going for the last four years, non-stop.
Frightening to think how it will now escalate with an election coming on.

Last time out, we elected a "uniter, not a divider." Well, good thing. Imagine
how different the social climate would be today if we had elected a divider,
not a uniter.................

Here's a scary possibility: The National Rifle Association is stumping to be
declared a "news" organization. They are also planning to purchase television
and radio networks. Under current campaign laws, they are not allowed to
broadcast campaign ads known to be untrue for the last 30 days prior to an
election. If they get the right to masquerade as a news organization rather
than a lobbying group, they will be able to say whatever they want, (known to
be untrue or not), and spend as much as they want right up to election day.

Expect that to pass. It will be one "freedom of speech" issue that the right
wing will be trampling one another to support. Can't afford to miss those NRA
contributions- or see them directed to an opponent.



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I *hope* the Dems continue to practice dirty politics. All of the liberal
hate fests do nothing more than help the "undecided" decide...and jump
squarely behind the man with a 72% favorability rating.

Don't you get it Harry? Attacking the popular guy is the surest way to make
yourself unpopular. I figured *you*, especially, would have learned that in
grade school.



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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thunder wrote:

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 04:14:00 +0000, NOYB wrote:

I dunno Harry. This one has me totally perplexed. There is an

absolute
venom towards Bush on your side of the aisle. I've read articles from
writers who stated they hate even the way he walks. Yet, that message
only seems to come to those liberals that have a strong interest in
politics. Obviously, the hate message isn't resonating with the great
majority of the country.


That venom has been with us for some time, and isn't limited to one side
of the aisle. I never liked Clinton, but to this day, I am amazed at

the
rabid hatred he inspires in some. Personally, I don't think either
President is deserving of hatred, and find the polarization troubling

and
dangerous. I suspect the reasons lie in both sides perceptions that
Washington can not effectively run the country. Blame for this is often
the "other side".


Aside from the fact that tens of millions of Americans believe Bush
stole the election and that he is too stupid to be president and that he
has made a lot of dumb, hurtful decisions since presuming office, there
are all those things he has said and done to divide Americans into as
many camps as possible. Bush is getting just what he deserves, and heat
hasn't even been turned on yet. Starting slowly next month and then
building geometrically afterwards, Bush will be entering a political
firestorm of his own making. I've seen some of the storyboards of
upcoming television commercials. They're delightful.

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 04:14:00 +0000, NOYB wrote:

I dunno Harry. This one has me totally perplexed. There is an absolute
venom towards Bush on your side of the aisle. I've read articles from
writers who stated they hate even the way he walks. Yet, that message
only seems to come to those liberals that have a strong interest in
politics. Obviously, the hate message isn't resonating with the great
majority of the country.


That venom has been with us for some time, and isn't limited to one side
of the aisle. I never liked Clinton, but to this day, I am amazed at the
rabid hatred he inspires in some. Personally, I don't think either
President is deserving of hatred, and find the polarization troubling and
dangerous. I suspect the reasons lie in both sides perceptions that
Washington can not effectively run the country. Blame for this is often
the "other side".


Actually, my feelings toward Bill Clinton had less to do with his policies
and more to do with his immorality. He was relatively moderate on many
issues...but his wife was ultra-liberal and was likely responsible for a lot
of the policies coming out of *their* Presidency.






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NOYB wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 04:14:00 +0000, NOYB wrote:

I dunno Harry. This one has me totally perplexed. There is an absolute
venom towards Bush on your side of the aisle. I've read articles from
writers who stated they hate even the way he walks. Yet, that message
only seems to come to those liberals that have a strong interest in
politics. Obviously, the hate message isn't resonating with the great
majority of the country.


That venom has been with us for some time, and isn't limited to one side
of the aisle. I never liked Clinton, but to this day, I am amazed at the
rabid hatred he inspires in some. Personally, I don't think either
President is deserving of hatred, and find the polarization troubling and
dangerous. I suspect the reasons lie in both sides perceptions that
Washington can not effectively run the country. Blame for this is often
the "other side".


Actually, my feelings toward Bill Clinton had less to do with his policies
and more to do with his immorality.


But Bush's immorality and his endless lies about really important
matters don't concern you, eh?



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Should read as follows:

11/28-12/1 72% favorable, 19% unfavorable, 9% not sure


11/23-26/03 65% favorable, 24% unfavorable, 11% not sure


I knew guys like Harry were in the minority...but I had no idea he and his
ilk were that *small* of a minority. They actually hate the man, not his
policies.



"NOYB" wrote in message
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Whether or not you agree or disagree with Bush's policies, you'll be

amazed
at the following poll from University of Pennsylvania.

University of Pennsylvania National Annenberg Election Survey. Nov.
28-Dec. 1, 2003. N=847 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

.

"Now I'd like to ask you how you feel about George W. Bush as a
person, as opposed to how you feel about the job he is doing. Do you have

a
favorable or unfavorable opinion of him as a person?"

Favor-
able
Unfav-
orable
Not
Sure

%
%
%

11/28 - 12/1/03 72 19 9
11/23-26/03 65 24 11




72% of this country has a *favorable* opinion of the man "as a person".
Since the left's hate for the man
dominates about half of the news (and *all* of NPR's news), you would

think
it was higher than 19% of this
country that so despises him.








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