On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:10:09 -0400, jim-- wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:36:50 -0400, jim-- wrote:


Who are *you guys*? Certainly not the President or his campaign.

I'm not so sure.

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.pht...can_Connection

The President and his campaign staff had nothing to do with those
commercials and attacks. You know that.

No, I don't. "Nothing" denotes absolute. Ginsburg precludes that. Also,
search on some of the names at the above disinfopedia link.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Aug25.html

Can I put the President or Karl Rove behind it? No, but I am quite
suspicious of Rove. You may find the source questionable, but the content
of this article is illuminating:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...0503_rove.html

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:10:09 -0400, jim-- wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:36:50 -0400, jim-- wrote:


Who are *you guys*? Certainly not the President or his campaign.

I'm not so sure.

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.pht...can_Connection

The President and his campaign staff had nothing to do with those
commercials and attacks. You know that.

No, I don't. "Nothing" denotes absolute. Ginsburg precludes that. Also,
search on some of the names at the above disinfopedia link.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Aug25.html

Can I put the President or Karl Rove behind it? No, but I am quite
suspicious of Rove. You may find the source questionable, but the content
of this article is illuminating:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...0503_rove.html





As was the testimony of the Swift Boat vets. But in the end, what does it
matter...Vietnam is a thing of the distant past. Can they start discussion
the real issues already?

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:19:53 -0400, jim-- wrote:


As was the testimony of the Swift Boat vets. But in the end, what does
it matter...Vietnam is a thing of the distant past. Can they start
discussion the real issues already?

Both candidates did what their country asked of them. Military service,
30 years ago, isn't an issue in my mind. As a people, we say we want an
issue driven campaign, but the reality is, we don't spend the time to know
the issues. Hell, a large chunk don't even bother to vote. We have these
negative, smoke and mirror campaigns because they work. We have the
democracy *we* deserve.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:10:09 -0400, jim-- wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:36:50 -0400, jim-- wrote:


Who are *you guys*? Certainly not the President or his campaign.

I'm not so sure.


http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.pht...can_Connection

The President and his campaign staff had nothing to do with those
commercials and attacks. You know that.

No, I don't. "Nothing" denotes absolute. Ginsburg precludes that. Also,
search on some of the names at the above disinfopedia link.

CNN is a tool of the Kerry campaign:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/10/po...0advisers.html.
Allowing both Carville and Begala to consult on the Kerry campaign and
report for CNN is a breach of ethics.

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:36:01 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


CNN is a tool of the Kerry campaign:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/10/po...0advisers.html.
Allowing both Carville and Begala to consult on the Kerry campaign and
report for CNN is a breach of ethics.

That may be, but Ben Ginsburg was the Bush campaign's lawyer and he
admittedly helped the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. I won't say he
coordinated, which would be illegal, but there is a connection. Since you
don't like CNN, you can read it he

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1199169/posts