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Gunner September 14th 04 08:12 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:53:35 GMT, "Jeffrey McCann"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:09:00 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:56:11 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Communism was paranoid right wingnut delusion inflicted on the masses.

No Communist axis of evil existed except in the minds of the neocons.


Sure Comrade..sure.

Tell that to the Ukrainians, and the East Germans, and the Poles...etc
etc.


East Germany wasn't conquered by Communism.

Idiot.


The Harlem Globetrotters? Seventh Day Adventists?
No..Ive got it..it was the MOONIES!!!!!!!! Yes thats right..the evil
get of Karl Marx and an unnamed Eurasion woman.

YES!!! The Berlin Wall was put up by the Moonies.

The mines, the guard towers, the barbed wire..the incesant hammering
of the machine guns as people tried desperately to flee the Moonies!

Yes!

And of course it was that evil Moonie Yosef Stalin who starved about 3
million Kulacks and Ukranians.

The Symbol of the Moonies is the Hammer and Sickle, correct?

And the Moonies were the brain child of a failed idology developed by
Ingals and Marx, and enforced by Mad Felix and Berria and other evil
Moonies. The Moonie Purges in the 30s..yes indeed!

(as the sounds of the Internationale swell in the background, while
columns of Moonie missile launchers and little Moonie girl children
with baskets of flower peddles pass the viewing stand)

Idiot.


However, the Rev. Moon is great supporter of George Bush, and vice versa.
This may offer some further insight into Bush's alleged Christian values his
supporters are so fond of parading around for public consumption.

Jeff


Huh? Im Buddhist. I like Bush. I will vote for Bush. The means he is
not a Christian?

Nurse!!!! The Thorazine for Mr. McCann. Push!

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

Thom September 14th 04 10:37 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:11:57 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:25:33 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

heh. You're kidding right? ONE call from the Secret Service to
Australia, then one call from someone in the Australian government to
Thom's isp.
2 calls, probably 5 minutes.
Oops. 3 calls:



All communications that enter or leave the US are automaticly screened
by the NSA.

The guy in Australia could be proxying from South America, or Russia.

And Carnivore and Echelon would still tag him.


Gee, I'd feel ignored if they didn't! :-) Want to get tagged? Use
one of the 117 key words they use to separate suspecious messages.

Does anyone around here really believe that both the Dems and Pugs
don't monitor this (alt.politics.bush) and other news groups (like the
Kerry site) to get a feel for public opinion?

THOM

Thom September 14th 04 10:50 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:42:19 GMT, Wolf2ii
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:46:11 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:31:33 -0400, Julian D.
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:13 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:35:01 GMT,
(Thom)
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:47:20 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:51:01 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.

Osama and Co. is a Religious Fundimentalist. Not a right winger.
McVeigh was a stooge for the left wing Clinton Administration. Cheney
did what exactly?

Right, and the Greens really work for big business. Fundamentalism IS
RIGHT WING! McVeigh was a right wing good ole boy who stupidly blamed
Waco on Clinton when in fact it was Bush41. he lashed out at the
system as any good American would after WACO but did it in a manner as
bad as WACO.

Cheney? Draft dodger, Coward, Haliburton whore and man in the white
house. Shoot the *******!

Thom...you actually think hiding in Australia prevents you from being
investigated, or even interviewed by the Secret Service about you
advocating that the Vice President should be shot?
Not to be rude, but are you an idiot?


It does give him a bit of anonymity.


heh. You're kidding right? ONE call from the Secret Service to
Australia, then one call from someone in the Australian government to
Thom's isp.


Guess what... I am my ISP.
2 calls, probably 5 minutes.
Oops. 3 calls:

yes, one to my lawyer to start a lawsuit against you. Australia isn't
a fascists state like the US has become and you can't play ghestopo
games like that here


Thom, I am surprise, I don't think the US is a fascist state, lived
here all my life


Can you go in a gun store and buy a 30 round magazine? Can you buy a
gun before someone checks you out? Look at the Patriot Acts?

Also look at Benito Mussolinis 1929 book on his creation... Fascism.
he describes it as the blending of government and corporate interests
and that's what the USA is right now.


You see old girl, McCarthy died in a mental insitution and the old
days of turning in reds under your bed are long gone even though your
fuhrur Bush wants them back.

Every e-mail, ever usenet message is monitored by ESCHELON and they
are quite aware who I am and what I do including the fact I ran for
Parliament last election. I didn't say anything during the election
then that I don't say now. In fact whats this? Shock horror!


They tried to get me to run, my friends wanted me to run for a local
office,both the Democrats and GOP--I think I would have won, but I got
ill, ended up in the VA Hospital


One hopes your better and thank you for participating in the
democratic process. I ran in 2002 and lost to Labor who got 58% after
preferences. We need less professional politicians (in both
countries), term limits and more of the common man in office.


http://www.vic.greens.org.au/electio...rrensouth.html

So I'll repeat myself. Bush and Cheney are Viet Nam cowards and not
fit to be in the white house. I am not happy with Kerry but he is
10,000X's better than the two goose stepping fascists in the white
house now so its a matter of the lesser of two evils this election.


I disagree, I am not happy with Bush, but if you ignore the hype, he
did serve and even tried to volunteer for Vietnam, he was turned down
for lack of hours in the air


Sorry I don't buy it. If he wanted to go all he had to do was go full
time and ask. he didn't have to fly to do it either.

Cheney, hell he was 27 in 68, he had a family and in no fear of being
drafted


so he should have served when he was 18 to 24 and no family like the
rest of us did.

Me , I was prime age, I volunteered to get people home, refuse to
carry a weapon after awhile--Hospital Corpsman


Good lot the corpsman and the dudes with the worse PTSD especially
with body party collection issues.

I was young and stupid, I was wounded a few times on Sept 17,1969, but
I think I would do it again


The funny thing is too many of us feel that way. Our lives were never
worse yet never better at the same time. We lived to a level than
made civilian life totally boring.

But I don't think Kerry should never hold any office,ever


I actually agree with you but Bush has to go. I normally vote third
party but Bush scares me so much I fear what he could do.

30 years ago ,he lied, most Vets let it alone, we just wanted to get
on with our lives, now he has base his Vietnam experience to run for
President-I would say I, but now I understand thousand of us Vets are
****ed-off at him--he could not let it alone, he made us think about
it and his lies


Noithing wrong with bringing up the Nam. Keep it deep inside and your
asking for PTSD.

He should have ran on his senate record, but that is a sham
Guess he thought we were all either dead or didn't care--HE IS WRONG


again what's Bush's record as GOV? How many arrests? How many black
men executed while white fellas got reprieves? How many companies
bankrupted and whats his connection with Bin laden? Kerry is just the
better of two very bad choices and until we get preferential voting
we're stuck with it.

I was and am a proud member of India Company, 3rd Battalion, 4th
Marine Regiment, 3rd Marine Division.


welcome home brother
THOM

Thom September 14th 04 10:52 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:46:19 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:46:11 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:


heh. You're kidding right? ONE call from the Secret Service to
Australia, then one call from someone in the Australian government to
Thom's isp.


Guess what... I am my ISP.
2 calls, probably 5 minutes.
Oops. 3 calls:

yes, one to my lawyer to start a lawsuit against you. Australia isn't
a fascists state like the US has become and you can't play ghestopo
games like that here



Actually..they could if they wanted to.

And if they were serious about it, you would be walking along, minding
your own business and pop pop pop, some fellow would put 3 22lr rounds
in the back of your neck.


Now there I'll agree with you. Project Phoenix all over again.

This of course severs the spinal cord,
ruptures the nerve gangula at the base of your brain stem. You will
become instantly paralyised, even if the bullets dont kill you, it
will wipe out your autonomic nervous system, and you will forget to
breath. Death takes about 3 minutes before you loose conciousness
(roughly) and you will be starving for air all that time..as the
lights slowly fade out and you pinpoint that last little bit of
sight....then about two minutes later brain death sets in as it rounds
out of O2 and the synapses start firing at random.

Your body may or may not l "Do the Chicken" as motor nerves also fire
at random due to the brain stem being severed. The body may kick
itself in any direction, even upside down. But you wouldnt notice.
Shrug


Nah, when you as fat as I am now the shire weight would keep me
centered on the ground holding the daisy! :-)

Never say never..google "John Bull" + Mossad


pop pop pop...and thats all it takes...and there is not a damned thing
a lawyer can do about it. Unless his name is Jesus....chuckle


Better use a .32 made by HiVel. Too much fat for a .22

THOM

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 14th 04 10:53 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:10:05 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:06:21 -0400, Julian D.
wrote:

Cheney? Draft dodger, Coward, Haliburton whore and man in the white
house. Shoot the *******!


Thom...you actually think hiding in Australia prevents you from being
investigated, or even interviewed by the Secret Service about you
advocating that the Vice President should be shot?
Not to be rude, but are you an idiot?


Based on his posts so far..I think we can agree he is indeed.


I'm sorry bit the label idiot is reserved for people who vote for Bush
yet a second time :-)

THOM

Gunner
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 14th 04 10:56 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:49:17 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:34:38 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

As I get older I prefer to live in a socialist country rather than to
be left to die in the streets of America or rolled out into the
parking lot on a girney to freeze while they call a truck to drag me
to a charity hospital like so many older Americans.


Do the rest of the Aussies know you are calling them Socialists?


gee I hope so. I try and compliment them as much as possible. And
speaking of socialism I saw the doctor today and it didn't cost me a
cent. I rode the tram today for pennies and I went to the biggest
Museum in the State for free.

THOM


The US has to wake up to the fact the world is changing and the type
of country we are (especially the medical system) just isn't on any
more. The world is so anti-US now because of Bush. we X-pats
generally tell people here we're Canadian if our accents can get away
with it.

THOM



Goodonya Mate. We dont miss you at all.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 14th 04 11:05 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:46:02 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:09:00 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:56:11 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Communism was paranoid right wingnut delusion inflicted on the masses.

No Communist axis of evil existed except in the minds of the neocons.


Sure Comrade..sure.

Tell that to the Ukrainians, and the East Germans, and the Poles...etc
etc.



East Germany wasn't conquered by Communism.


East Germany didn't exist in WW2 or didn't you notice that? The DDR
was never invaded or conquored by anyone.

Idiot.


The Harlem Globetrotters? Seventh Day Adventists?
No..Ive got it..it was the MOONIES!!!!!!!! Yes thats right..the evil
get of Karl Marx and an unnamed Eurasion woman.

YES!!! The Berlin Wall was put up by the Moonies.


and this has to do with the DDR being invaded and conquored how?

The mines, the guard towers, the barbed wire..the incesant hammering
of the machine guns as people tried desperately to flee the Moonies!


and this has to do with the DDR being invaded and conquored how?

Yes!

And of course it was that evil Moonie Yosef Stalin who starved about 3
million Kulacks and Ukranians.


and this has to do with the DDR being invaded and conquored how?

The Symbol of the Moonies is the Hammer and Sickle, correct?


No the dollar sigh

And the Moonies were the brain child of a failed idology developed by
Ingals and Marx, and enforced by Mad Felix and Berria and other evil
Moonies. The Moonie Purges in the 30s..yes indeed!


Nope, its a right wing scam

(as the sounds of the Internationale swell in the background, while
columns of Moonie missile launchers and little Moonie girl children
with baskets of flower peddles pass the viewing stand)

and this has to do with the DDR being invaded and conquored how?

The Russians invaded the Third Reich in 1944 and the war ended in
1945. East Germany (Deutsche Demokratische
Republik or DDR) was founded in 1949.

Care to refute that?

Thom

Thom September 14th 04 11:06 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:12:10 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:53:35 GMT, "Jeffrey McCann"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:09:00 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:56:11 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Communism was paranoid right wingnut delusion inflicted on the masses.

No Communist axis of evil existed except in the minds of the neocons.


Sure Comrade..sure.

Tell that to the Ukrainians, and the East Germans, and the Poles...etc
etc.


East Germany wasn't conquered by Communism.

Idiot.

The Harlem Globetrotters? Seventh Day Adventists?
No..Ive got it..it was the MOONIES!!!!!!!! Yes thats right..the evil
get of Karl Marx and an unnamed Eurasion woman.

YES!!! The Berlin Wall was put up by the Moonies.

The mines, the guard towers, the barbed wire..the incesant hammering
of the machine guns as people tried desperately to flee the Moonies!

Yes!

And of course it was that evil Moonie Yosef Stalin who starved about 3
million Kulacks and Ukranians.

The Symbol of the Moonies is the Hammer and Sickle, correct?

And the Moonies were the brain child of a failed idology developed by
Ingals and Marx, and enforced by Mad Felix and Berria and other evil
Moonies. The Moonie Purges in the 30s..yes indeed!

(as the sounds of the Internationale swell in the background, while
columns of Moonie missile launchers and little Moonie girl children
with baskets of flower peddles pass the viewing stand)

Idiot.


However, the Rev. Moon is great supporter of George Bush, and vice versa.
This may offer some further insight into Bush's alleged Christian values his
supporters are so fond of parading around for public consumption.

Jeff


Huh? Im Buddhist. I like Bush. I will vote for Bush. The means he is
not a Christian?


A buddhist for Bush? Talk about screwed up Che!

THOM

Nurse!!!! The Thorazine for Mr. McCann. Push!

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 14th 04 11:07 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:26:04 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Steve Canyon wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:51 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:35:11 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:28:02 -0600, "Four Moron MONTHS!" _ wrote:

E.E.Bud Keith wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.



Want me to post some cites about individuals on the Left? I can you
know...quite a number.

I don't give a crap what you post, dickwiper. You're now in my bozo
bin, along with the other mental defectives.


Writing under another name again Brian, Posts by you under any name are so
easy to recognize. Written by and egomaniac who thinks that only he has the
right answer to every problem, And if someone dares to disagree with him, he
unleashes a torrent of vile hate and abusive langauge. Come to think of it
you remind me very much of the little corporal who so loved to hate
everybody in the world
And like your communist idols those that disagreed with him were eliminated.
For now you can only attempt to smear those you dislike with hate. But
should people like you ever can any real power the world is in for the
biggest blood bath in history.

Gunner, eh? Did your mama name you after the dog?


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!



Yes, anyone NOT being a ****ing right wing moron like "Bud"
just has to be a communist..
seeing things in balck and white does indicate a revulsion of critical
thinking. What the right wing Fuhrur worshipors don't seemed to
real;ize is that it is the duty of all citizens to watch their elected
representitives like a hawk no matter what party they are in including
their own.

When Kerry gets sworn in in January its time to put the microscope on
him too,

This news group will revert back to its original subject, the Bush
crime family, with a new touch on how to arrest and convict Bush for
his 4 years of crime and corruption.

Bush is going to be rewarded by re-election for being a great
President and protecting this country.


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...



Election 2000, we will never forget.


Yup day one leading up to 911.

THOM

Thom September 14th 04 11:09 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:32:07 GMT, Steve Canyon
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:49:39 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:05:17 GMT, Steve Canyon
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:51 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:35:11 GMT,
(Thom)
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:28:02 -0600, "Four Moron MONTHS!" _ wrote:

E.E.Bud Keith wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.



Want me to post some cites about individuals on the Left? I can you
know...quite a number.

I don't give a crap what you post, dickwiper. You're now in my bozo
bin, along with the other mental defectives.


Writing under another name again Brian, Posts by you under any name are so
easy to recognize. Written by and egomaniac who thinks that only he has the
right answer to every problem, And if someone dares to disagree with him, he
unleashes a torrent of vile hate and abusive langauge. Come to think of it
you remind me very much of the little corporal who so loved to hate
everybody in the world
And like your communist idols those that disagreed with him were eliminated.
For now you can only attempt to smear those you dislike with hate. But
should people like you ever can any real power the world is in for the
biggest blood bath in history.

Gunner, eh? Did your mama name you after the dog?


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!



Yes, anyone NOT being a ****ing right wing moron like "Bud"
just has to be a communist..
seeing things in balck and white does indicate a revulsion of critical
thinking. What the right wing Fuhrur worshipors don't seemed to
real;ize is that it is the duty of all citizens to watch their elected
representitives like a hawk no matter what party they are in including
their own.

When Kerry gets sworn in in January its time to put the microscope on
him too,

This news group will revert back to its original subject, the Bush
crime family, with a new touch on how to arrest and convict Bush for
his 4 years of crime and corruption.

Bush is going to be rewarded by re-election for being a great
President and protecting this country.


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...


Now we finally agree on something Steve. Given the crooked elections
in Florida and other places, voting is almost a waste of time.

THOM


Especially when you're voting for the guy that's going to lose.


At least we're still allowed to vote Probably the last time if Bush
gets reappointed, much like Hitler in 1933.

THOM

--

"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."

--Zepp Jamieson, 1996
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsg....snowcrest.net



"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."

--Zepp Jamieson,2000/02/15
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=38....snowcrest.net



"You just doubled the value of my vote."

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000/04/25
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=39....snowcrest.net



[...] if we decide elections by square miles, my vote is worth
200 Los Angeles votes.

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000-12-18
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=tb...x.com&oe=UTF-8



"Legal resident alien Zepp Jamieson, a Canadian who has lived
in the United States for more than 30 years, said his status
changed dramatically with the Patriot Act."

http://www.mtshastanews.com/archives...695-news11.txt



Legal resident aliens aren't allowed to vote, Jamieson.
Why were you pretending to be a citizen?




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