Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:41:38 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote

Seems you have no reading comprehension or any logic background what so
ever. So, I ask again, the cops should shoot when ever things are thrown at
them?


Of course not. Its on a case by case basis. If the crowd was hurling
deadly ping pong balls at them, Id say no. If the crowd was hurling
molotov cocktails, or rocks or bottles at them, Id have to say yes.

So remember boys and girls..if you dont want to die..dont hurl deadly
objects at the men with guns. If you really want to hurt them, get
your own guns and have a pitched battle.

Gunner

There is no middle ground between a peaceful protest and an ambush. To
have a successful peaceful protest all of the protesters must remain
peaceful even if the opposition is not. At Kent State the National
Guard was peaceful though well armed. But a few protesters chose to use
rocks against troops with firearms. A thrown rock is a lethal weapon.
Before firearms became common tremendous numbers of battle deaths
resulted from thrown rocks (mostly from slings). The rock throwing was
exceptionally foolish as it justified (and arguably required) the troops
to fire in self defense. Had most of the protesters thrown rocks they
could have killed the guardsmen who were greatly outnumbered. The
fault (if fault needs to be assigned) lies with a few undiciplined rock
throwers, not with the National Guard.

"Dan" wrote in message
...

"Gunner" wrote

Of course no order to fire was given. And as Ive previously noted..if
Im attacked by a mob, Im not going to wait for a fire order.

Were they attacked by a mob, they would have been justified in
firing.

As to having no business on campus..when an area is under riot
conditions, that is exactly what the Guard is for.

There were no riot conditions, so the Guard should not
have been ordered onto campus. Simple.

But, of course, to Neocons, any peaceful protest is a "riot."
I guess that comes from being ignorant cowards.

Dan

Sure Danny boy we have all seen what you refer to as peacefull
demonstrations. Like blocking traffic or preventing those with business to
go about there business.
Throwing rocks bottle and glass, throwing plastic bags full of urine and
feces. Usually a bunch of dumb kids who are egged on by worthless filthy
mindless grown up (physically only)hippies who then stay out of harms way.
I really wonder just how peacefull you would be if someone clobbered you
with a bottle or a rock, perhaps you would love to be zapped with a bag of
**** or hit in the face with a bag of ****.
Peacefull dissent my ass.

WallyInferno bleats:

-Then vote bush out of office. He is creating more terrorists on a daily
basis.

Open your eyes and mind.-


Bilge- Hey, ****head, it ain't about YOUR politics...savvy? It ain't about MY
politics.

It's about common decency...not playing mind games with people on edge (for
very good reason).

It's about not scrambling atop a pile of bodies to use as a soapbox to inflict
your bull**** political manifesto...no one elected you spokesman of anything.

Since you've got such a smart litlle cock-sucker of a mouth on you, here's
your instructions:

Go find your pal while he's off ****ing himself like he was told to, and suck
his ass until your cheeks burst with ****.

After you're done with that, feel free to vote for whoever you want to,
butt-blug.



Open your mouth and start suckin'.




Mutiny is a Management Tool
Select Your Tattoo while Sober

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Leftists are scum. And they kill people in megadoses.

Gunner

When you can't mount a convincing argument, resort to name calling and
wild
accusations.

Where are you when Harry fit's this M.O.?

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:19:01 -0700, Louis Boyd
wrote:

There is no middle ground between a peaceful protest and an ambush. To
have a successful peaceful protest all of the protesters must remain
peaceful even if the opposition is not. At Kent State the National
Guard was peaceful though well armed. But a few protesters chose to use
rocks against troops with firearms. A thrown rock is a lethal weapon.
Before firearms became common tremendous numbers of battle deaths
resulted from thrown rocks (mostly from slings). The rock throwing was
exceptionally foolish as it justified (and arguably required) the troops
to fire in self defense. Had most of the protesters thrown rocks they
could have killed the guardsmen who were greatly outnumbered. The
fault (if fault needs to be assigned) lies with a few undiciplined rock
throwers, not with the National Guard.

Pot Kettle Black
Palestinian Rock Throwers vs. Kent State Students
Pot Kettle Black

"Louis Boyd" wrote in message
...
Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:41:38 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote

Seems you have no reading comprehension or any logic background what so
ever. So, I ask again, the cops should shoot when ever things are
thrown at
them?


Of course not. Its on a case by case basis. If the crowd was hurling
deadly ping pong balls at them, Id say no. If the crowd was hurling
molotov cocktails, or rocks or bottles at them, Id have to say yes.

So remember boys and girls..if you dont want to die..dont hurl deadly
objects at the men with guns. If you really want to hurt them, get
your own guns and have a pitched battle.

Gunner

There is no middle ground between a peaceful protest and an ambush. To
have a successful peaceful protest all of the protesters must remain
peaceful even if the opposition is not. At Kent State the National
Guard was peaceful though well armed. But a few protesters chose to use
rocks against troops with firearms. A thrown rock is a lethal weapon.
Before firearms became common tremendous numbers of battle deaths
resulted from thrown rocks (mostly from slings). The rock throwing was
exceptionally foolish as it justified (and arguably required) the troops
to fire in self defense. Had most of the protesters thrown rocks they
could have killed the guardsmen who were greatly outnumbered. The
fault (if fault needs to be assigned) lies with a few undiciplined rock
throwers, not with the National Guard.

Jeeze, you logic is totally FUBAR

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 03:03:03 +0000, Steve Canyon wrote:


LOL Yeah, Krause is exactly the sort of guy I would expect to have a
bunch of malcontents at his beck and call. Hey Harry, why don't you bring
your troop of screw-ups, dead-beats and flunkies down here to western
Florida. We definitely know how to handle malcontents down here.

Rosewood comes to mind.

Gunner wrote in message . ..

Leftists are scum. And they kill people in megadoses.

Wingers start wars based on lies. They even attack the wrong
folks. They are thus murderers and crazed loons.

The people involved in the attacks of 9-11 were wingers & fundies.

Wingers love their shiney boom-boom sticks and pretenses of
power.
They are idiots. And, seemingly, scum.

HTH
--
Cliff

Gunner wrote in message . ..

When Im charged by a violent crowd

..I most
certainly will not wait to be killed or injured, before employing
deadly force in the defense of myself or others.

It's generally not a good idea to shoot at police or members
of the armed forces.

Should you feel free to do so? An exception be made?
--
Cliff

Gunner wrote in message . ..
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:45:38 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Johnny Bravo wrote:
Teresa Heinz Kerry has recently been photographed picking her ass hair and
nose hair at the same time!!

I wonder if Johnny butt****s her?



Another dumb as dirt Bush dick sucker, eh? Betcha your manhood is tied
up in your pistolas.

Another dumb as dirt Kerry lefty who equates firearms with manhood.

Btw..you have a problem with gays and their sexual practices? What
ever happened to Tolerance and Diversity.

In fact..thats actually hate speech for you to use that as some sort
of insult. But then..we all know its ok for the Left to use hate
speech. Just as long as no one else does.

Homophobe.

Joined the Log Cabin Republicans did you?
Thought you were prime NRA braindead. How times change.
--
Cliff