"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"Mark Browne" wrote in message
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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So your recommended course of action would be to hang around the
hive,
identify and separate out the few bees that actually did the
stinging,
and
relocate these bees for punishment?

Now you've taken the analogy too far.
I was simply pointing out that we are undertaking an impractical
response
with
our determination to militarily subdue any and all countries where a
terrorist
is reputed to live.

What would be your response? Would you wait until the next attack to
see
if
the terrorists really meant to harm us?

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Spend some time reflecting on "The Troubles" in Ireland!
After considerable effort, it was learned that naked force was not the
correct answer.
The lessons learned *can* be applied to the middle east.

Get the stinking English out of Ireland!


Bertie,

Let's break this down slowly.

I asked you to consider how the lessons learned in Ireland can be applied
to the middle east.
Your reply was for the aggressor to leave the occupied lands.
Can I take this to mean that you think that the US and UK should pull out of
the middle east?
Lest we forget, the British are involved in both conflicts, and there *are*
questions of terrorism and domestic security in both cases.

Mark Browne

"Mark Browne" wrote in message
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"Mark Browne" wrote in message
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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So your recommended course of action would be to hang around the
hive,
identify and separate out the few bees that actually did the
stinging,
and
relocate these bees for punishment?

Now you've taken the analogy too far.
I was simply pointing out that we are undertaking an impractical
response
with
our determination to militarily subdue any and all countries where
a
terrorist
is reputed to live.

What would be your response? Would you wait until the next attack to
see
if
the terrorists really meant to harm us?

snip
Spend some time reflecting on "The Troubles" in Ireland!
After considerable effort, it was learned that naked force was not the
correct answer.
The lessons learned *can* be applied to the middle east.

Get the stinking English out of Ireland!


Bertie,

Let's break this down slowly.

I asked you to consider how the lessons learned in Ireland can be applied
to the middle east.

So, we'll give the Irish the ok to push the English into the sea? (Chuck,
this is little sea meaning water.)

Your reply was for the aggressor to leave the occupied lands.
Can I take this to mean that you think that the US and UK should pull out
of
the middle east?

Aren't the Palistinines the agressors. The jew have been in Judea for
thousands of years while the Palistinines are a recent entry to Judea?

Lest we forget, the British are involved in both conflicts, and there
*are*
questions of terrorism and domestic security in both cases.

The Irish and the Jews occupied the lands long before the English and
Palistinines, respectively, breached the borders.

The Irish and the Jews occupied the lands long before the English and
Palistinines, respectively, breached the borders.


Irish, yes. Jews, no.

The oldest recorded inhabitants of the area now called Israel were tribes that
are generally ancestral to the Palestinians.
I don't know what religion you practice, if any, but if it happens to be
Christianity, Judaism, or Islam, refer to the book of Exodus. It's considered
holy writ in all three traditions, and it clearly records the invasion of "the
promised land" by Joshua and the Jewish exiles from Egypt.

And talk about terrorism, wow. Yahweh, the Hebrew diety, instructed Joshua to
kill all the men, women, children, and even the livestock in the various towns
and cities they conquered.

Until immediately after WWII, there hadn't really been a "Jewish state" in
Israel for almost 2000 years. The area was
solidly Muslim during the time of the Crusades, and that does go back a piece.
:-)