Depending on where you boat and what you use the boat for, you might
seriously consider a performance boat w/ an outboard. Used ones are
available for about the same price as a good 20' runabout w/ a V8 engine.
For example. I have $15k in my eliminator. Seats 7, runs 85 mph top end.
Runs 70 w/ 5 adults in the boat
and you can cruise at 60 if you want to all day long. Point is, it will
ski, pull tubes, looks good (to most people), go fast, carry people, tows
well (3400 lbs), rides good (21' tunnel), and is not that expensive to
operate/maintain. Gets right at 3 mpg on an average outing which is a
little running fast, a little cruising at 35 to 40 mph, a little tubing,
etc...
Just a thought.

--
Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

"simon gilder" wrote in message
. uk...
Hi Group

I'm the owner of a nice example 1989 Bayliner Capri with a 2.3 ltr cobra
omc
engine.
Now my first thought when i bought this boat just over a year ago was that
it was going to
economical.
The boat has not had a hard life and is all serviced.
With a different prop top speed is 34 mph tops but this is screaming the
engine.
I guess at this speed i'm probably using what 5-7 gals.
My thoughts are now that i cant be doing the engine any good running at
max
revs and only acheiving 34 mph tops,so i'm considering selling up and
buying
either another Bayliner with a 4.3ltr or 5ltr engine.
My question is i guess,am i going to be in for a nasty shock when i
realise
that,that fuel consumption has at least doubled?
I've been told that a larger engine would'nt be working as hard and could
be
as economical as the smaller 2.3ltr.
Also,would a larger engine last longer if serviced propably as it would'nt
be working so hard.
Any thoughts or answers would be really appreciated.

Thanks for reading.

Simon

Tony Thomas wrote:
Depending on where you boat and what you use the boat for, you might
seriously consider a performance boat w/ an outboard. Used ones are
available for about the same price as a good 20' runabout w/ a V8 engine.
For example. I have $15k in my eliminator. Seats 7, runs 85 mph top end.
Runs 70 w/ 5 adults in the boat
and you can cruise at 60 if you want to all day long. Point is, it will
ski, pull tubes, looks good (to most people), go fast, carry people, tows
well (3400 lbs), rides good (21' tunnel), and is not that expensive to
operate/maintain. Gets right at 3 mpg on an average outing which is a
little running fast, a little cruising at 35 to 40 mph, a little tubing,
etc...
Just a thought.



Okay, there, fella. Now...explain the Saturn.

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On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 11:04:16 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Tony Thomas wrote:
Depending on where you boat and what you use the boat for, you might
seriously consider a performance boat w/ an outboard. Used ones are
available for about the same price as a good 20' runabout w/ a V8 engine.
For example. I have $15k in my eliminator. Seats 7, runs 85 mph top end.
Runs 70 w/ 5 adults in the boat
and you can cruise at 60 if you want to all day long. Point is, it will
ski, pull tubes, looks good (to most people), go fast, carry people, tows
well (3400 lbs), rides good (21' tunnel), and is not that expensive to
operate/maintain. Gets right at 3 mpg on an average outing which is a
little running fast, a little cruising at 35 to 40 mph, a little tubing,
etc...
Just a thought.

Okay, there, fella. Now...explain the Saturn.

It's the 180 gph on his Eliminator - he's got to conserve somewhere.
:)

You guys would appreciate this.

A guy I know is really into high performance boats - he has a 42'
Ocean Performance cat with twin 850 hp supercharged 454s, a couple of
Baja zillion mile per hour jet boats in the 25 foot class and a
freakin' 30 foot cat with a French designed jet turbine pushing one of
those fancy transmisison/outdrive combinations - Jorgenson maybe?

Guess what his everyday car is?

A beat up piece of crap Toyota pickup.

He wife drives a Lexus.

Later,

Tom

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
You guys would appreciate this.

A guy I know is really into high performance boats - he has a 42'
Ocean Performance cat with twin 850 hp supercharged 454s, a couple of
Baja zillion mile per hour jet boats in the 25 foot class and a
freakin' 30 foot cat with a French designed jet turbine pushing one of
those fancy transmisison/outdrive combinations - Jorgenson maybe?

Guess what his everyday car is?

A beat up piece of crap Toyota pickup.

He wife drives a Lexus.

Later,

Tom

That's sweet!

I've got three boats...one of then a turbine (which uses 2 gallon per mile
at speed BTW), and I haul them all behind my 1991 Chevy 1500 Silverado with
225k miles on it. It still has great oil pressure (30 psi), but the exterior
is getting a little ratty...I might be looking for a new tow this winter.

I don't drive the truck everyday anymore...my "day car" is an '03 Acura
TL-S.

Take care.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

Daughter pulled out in front of a car that changes lanes quickly from the
exit lane to straight ahead. She was ok.

--
Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Tony Thomas wrote:
Depending on where you boat and what you use the boat for, you might
seriously consider a performance boat w/ an outboard. Used ones are
available for about the same price as a good 20' runabout w/ a V8
engine.
For example. I have $15k in my eliminator. Seats 7, runs 85 mph top
end.
Runs 70 w/ 5 adults in the boat
and you can cruise at 60 if you want to all day long. Point is, it will
ski, pull tubes, looks good (to most people), go fast, carry people,
tows
well (3400 lbs), rides good (21' tunnel), and is not that expensive to
operate/maintain. Gets right at 3 mpg on an average outing which is a
little running fast, a little cruising at 35 to 40 mph, a little tubing,
etc...
Just a thought.



Okay, there, fella. Now...explain the Saturn.

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On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 14:28:37 GMT, "Tony Thomas"
wrote:

Depending on where you boat and what you use the boat for, you might
seriously consider a performance boat w/ an outboard. Used ones are
available for about the same price as a good 20' runabout w/ a V8 engine.
For example. I have $15k in my eliminator. Seats 7, runs 85 mph top end.
Runs 70 w/ 5 adults in the boat
and you can cruise at 60 if you want to all day long. Point is, it will
ski, pull tubes, looks good (to most people), go fast, carry people, tows
well (3400 lbs), rides good (21' tunnel), and is not that expensive to
operate/maintain. Gets right at 3 mpg on an average outing which is a
little running fast, a little cruising at 35 to 40 mph, a little tubing,
etc...
Just a thought.

Your boat uses 105 gallons per hour at 35 mph?

Thats ~~ mumble ~~ figuring ~~ 180 gallons an hour at 60!!!

Damn - how do you fit that much fuel in the boat - space time warp or
something? :)

(I know you mean GPH - just having some fun). :)

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

Not sure where you got those numbers.
At 3 miles per gallon on an average day of out riding w/ 60 gallons of fuel
capacity. At 40 mph it will get 3 mpg which equates to 13 gallons per hour.
But in that hour I have gone 40 miles. If your boat gets 4 mpg at 30 mph
then you will burn 10 gallons in the same 40 miles but it will take you an
extra 20 minutes to get there.

There are very few boats out there that will get over 4 miles per gallon if
actually checked. Not estimated by saying I cruised all day but actually
checking w/ a gps your distance and then refueling at the end of the day.

--
Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 14:28:37 GMT, "Tony Thomas"
wrote:

Depending on where you boat and what you use the boat for, you might
seriously consider a performance boat w/ an outboard. Used ones are
available for about the same price as a good 20' runabout w/ a V8 engine.
For example. I have $15k in my eliminator. Seats 7, runs 85 mph top
end.
Runs 70 w/ 5 adults in the boat
and you can cruise at 60 if you want to all day long. Point is, it will
ski, pull tubes, looks good (to most people), go fast, carry people, tows
well (3400 lbs), rides good (21' tunnel), and is not that expensive to
operate/maintain. Gets right at 3 mpg on an average outing which is a
little running fast, a little cruising at 35 to 40 mph, a little tubing,
etc...
Just a thought.

Your boat uses 105 gallons per hour at 35 mph?

Thats ~~ mumble ~~ figuring ~~ 180 gallons an hour at 60!!!

Damn - how do you fit that much fuel in the boat - space time warp or
something? :)

(I know you mean GPH - just having some fun). :)

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

Hey Tony, long time no chat! These v-hull guys will never learn on how
efficient a tunnel hull is. My STV runs well over 100mph but at my cruise
which is around 50-60mph gets at least 3 times the mpg as most 5.7 liter
boats.


"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:jdKZc.278152$eM2.236369@attbi_s51...
Not sure where you got those numbers.
At 3 miles per gallon on an average day of out riding w/ 60 gallons of
fuel
capacity. At 40 mph it will get 3 mpg which equates to 13 gallons per
hour.
But in that hour I have gone 40 miles. If your boat gets 4 mpg at 30 mph
then you will burn 10 gallons in the same 40 miles but it will take you an
extra 20 minutes to get there.

There are very few boats out there that will get over 4 miles per gallon
if
actually checked. Not estimated by saying I cruised all day but actually
checking w/ a gps your distance and then refueling at the end of the day.

--
Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
...
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 14:28:37 GMT, "Tony Thomas"
wrote:

Depending on where you boat and what you use the boat for, you might
seriously consider a performance boat w/ an outboard. Used ones are
available for about the same price as a good 20' runabout w/ a V8
engine.
For example. I have $15k in my eliminator. Seats 7, runs 85 mph top
end.
Runs 70 w/ 5 adults in the boat
and you can cruise at 60 if you want to all day long. Point is, it
will
ski, pull tubes, looks good (to most people), go fast, carry people,
tows
well (3400 lbs), rides good (21' tunnel), and is not that expensive to
operate/maintain. Gets right at 3 mpg on an average outing which is a
little running fast, a little cruising at 35 to 40 mph, a little
tubing,
etc...
Just a thought.

Your boat uses 105 gallons per hour at 35 mph?

Thats ~~ mumble ~~ figuring ~~ 180 gallons an hour at 60!!!

Damn - how do you fit that much fuel in the boat - space time warp or
something? :)

(I know you mean GPH - just having some fun). :)

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

I think if most poeple ever ride in a performance boat would never consider
a bowrider w/ I/O again. Nothing like being able to run on down the river
when you want to. And if you get the right boat - you can carry as many
people as you want. For example - my Baker and now my Eliminator both would
carry 7 people. Granted it is a little crowded but a 20' bowrider is
crowded w/ 7 people also.
I can rip your armpits out pulling skiers, less wake than most bowriders,
less weight towing than the same size bowrider, better ride than a bowrider.
When I go down the lake - everyone looks and wants to talk. No-one even
gives a second thought to a bowrider which makes it a lot more fun when your
on the water also.

--
Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

"Woodchuck" wrote in message
...
Hey Tony, long time no chat! These v-hull guys will never learn on how
efficient a tunnel hull is. My STV runs well over 100mph but at my cruise
which is around 50-60mph gets at least 3 times the mpg as most 5.7 liter
boats.


"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:jdKZc.278152$eM2.236369@attbi_s51...
Not sure where you got those numbers.
At 3 miles per gallon on an average day of out riding w/ 60 gallons of
fuel
capacity. At 40 mph it will get 3 mpg which equates to 13 gallons per
hour.
But in that hour I have gone 40 miles. If your boat gets 4 mpg at 30
mph
then you will burn 10 gallons in the same 40 miles but it will take you
an
extra 20 minutes to get there.

There are very few boats out there that will get over 4 miles per gallon
if
actually checked. Not estimated by saying I cruised all day but
actually
checking w/ a gps your distance and then refueling at the end of the
day.

--
Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
...
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 14:28:37 GMT, "Tony Thomas"
wrote:

Depending on where you boat and what you use the boat for, you might
seriously consider a performance boat w/ an outboard. Used ones are
available for about the same price as a good 20' runabout w/ a V8
engine.
For example. I have $15k in my eliminator. Seats 7, runs 85 mph top
end.
Runs 70 w/ 5 adults in the boat
and you can cruise at 60 if you want to all day long. Point is, it
will
ski, pull tubes, looks good (to most people), go fast, carry people,
tows
well (3400 lbs), rides good (21' tunnel), and is not that expensive
to
operate/maintain. Gets right at 3 mpg on an average outing which is
a
little running fast, a little cruising at 35 to 40 mph, a little
tubing,
etc...
Just a thought.

Your boat uses 105 gallons per hour at 35 mph?

Thats ~~ mumble ~~ figuring ~~ 180 gallons an hour at 60!!!

Damn - how do you fit that much fuel in the boat - space time warp or
something? :)

(I know you mean GPH - just having some fun). :)

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

Tony Thomas wrote:

I think if most poeple ever ride in a performance boat would never consider
a bowrider w/ I/O again. Nothing like being able to run on down the river
when you want to.


Hey, if I lived next to a little lake or calm river, I might consider a
rig like yours...just for grins. But you'd be putting along most of the
time on Chesapeake Bay, because the chop would shake your teeth out of
their gums in that boat of yours.




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