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Doug Kanter December 1st 03 07:11 PM

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"Greg" wrote in message
...
Yes. Likes to eat fish, but refuses to keep
anything he catches.


Another person who doesn't want to kill but doesn't hesitate to hire a hit

man.

I kept reminding him about that every time he wanted to go to Wendy's for
lunch. He pointed out that I was nagging him, and he was right. I'd rather
he come fishing with me and put all the fish back. I get to keep enough when
I fish alone.



Doug Kanter December 1st 03 07:39 PM

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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:1BKyb.268713$mZ5.1957235@attbi_s54...

In *both* fishing and hunting the objective is to convince your prey that
it's gonna get a free meal or get laid. Then when it falls for the

routine,
you get a *chance* to put it in the car or the boat.

I'm not sure how "sporting" any of it all is - but it's far from a certain
meal either. It's not easy to outsmart a deer, most birds, or some types

of
fish.

None of this has anything to do with the canned hunting of exotic animals
for trophies - which I think is sickening.

-W


Browse messages at rec.hunting for a week or two and you'll get a real taste
of what SOME hunters are like. There seems to be a subculture of guys who
pack up the whole dang family and a bunch of .22 rifles, and find a place to
shoot prairie dogs for a couple of days. Maybe prairie dogs are a pest to
somebody, but still, these people are from another friggin' planet.



Harry Krause December 2nd 03 02:13 AM

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Doug Kanter wrote:

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:1BKyb.268713$mZ5.1957235@attbi_s54...

In *both* fishing and hunting the objective is to convince your prey that
it's gonna get a free meal or get laid. Then when it falls for the

routine,
you get a *chance* to put it in the car or the boat.

I'm not sure how "sporting" any of it all is - but it's far from a certain
meal either. It's not easy to outsmart a deer, most birds, or some types

of
fish.

None of this has anything to do with the canned hunting of exotic animals
for trophies - which I think is sickening.

-W


Browse messages at rec.hunting for a week or two and you'll get a real taste
of what SOME hunters are like. There seems to be a subculture of guys who
pack up the whole dang family and a bunch of .22 rifles, and find a place to
shoot prairie dogs for a couple of days. Maybe prairie dogs are a pest to
somebody, but still, these people are from another friggin' planet.



Republicans, no doubt.

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basskisser December 2nd 03 12:34 PM

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(Greg) wrote in message ...
If you are not eating tofu and wearing plastic shoes you don't have standing in
this fight. Is it wrong to kill the billions of chickens and cows we eat too?
Is the person who hires a hit man morally superior to the hit man?
I am not a hunter but I do understand the need to control the population of
some species, particularly eastern white tail deer, the most deadfly animal in
North America. (kill about 200 people a year in the US) and cause millions of
dollars in crop damage.


There is quite a difference in eating chickens, born, raised, killed
and processed in factories than in killing and annihilating a wild
species of animal or fish. I fish, and sometimes take one or two home
to eat. I don't hunt. Seems different to me, can't explain why, but I
don't feel as bad killing a fish as I do a deer. The deadliest animal
in North America is certainly not the whitetail deer, it's the urban
human. Far more people are killed by other people than any and all
other animals yearly. Most by firearms. Most by firearms that belonged
to someone else and was either borrowed, or stolen. So much for not
wanting gun control, huh?

basskisser December 2nd 03 12:42 PM

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

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I disagree, but based only on being very familiar with the way some REAL
hunters hunt. My former neighbor's dad has about 1000 acres an hour

south of
Rochester.


Avoca, Bath area?


East Bloomfield, around routes 5 & 20.


Ah, I know the area, somewhat. I used to live in Avoca, if you know
where that is. I lived on Neil's Creek, a nice trout stream. Was funny
to watch on April 1st as the city boys invaded in there brand new
Orvis gear, thousand dollar fly rods, etc. I knew every fish holding
hole in the creek, and would come out, poor farm boy, with my Mitchell
300 that was older than I was, and start pulling fish! They'd even try
to BUY fish from me!

The Brooklyn hunters who infect the Catskills are quite a crew, too. All
amateurs. When I was in college, my roommate and I were sitting in the
Roscoe Diner when a NYS trooper walked in and sat down a few stools away. We
were hoping that the neon "We Are Stoned" signs on our foreheads weren't
noticeable. There were a bunch of hunters in the parking lot admiring each
others' new guns, new orange vests, etc. Suddenly....BLAM! One of the idiots
shot out the windshield of the trooper's car. Poor cop shook his head, says
to the waitress "Oh no....they're back", and goes outside & starts
collecting guns and taking names.

Around here, at least 2-3 hunters are killed each year, either with their
own guns, falling out of tree stands, or due to the stupidity of their
hunting partners. My former landlord was shot in the leg with an arror by
another hunter. He was in a tree stand on totally flat land, wearing blaze
orange. I guess he looked like one of them thar tree deer. :-)


We used to hate it when they invaded our local bar, we were just
country boys, and for various reasons, some legal, we wanted to be
left alone. They drew cops around us, and generally raised hell, which
was OUR vocation!

Greg December 2nd 03 05:49 PM

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First of all, only a really sick individual would have *anything* to
do with canned hunting..


Isn't the Purdue chicken farm the ultimate "canned hunt"?


Doug Kanter December 2nd 03 06:22 PM

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"basskisser" wrote in message
om...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

...
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

news:0Nwyb.2817
I disagree, but based only on being very familiar with the way some

REAL
hunters hunt. My former neighbor's dad has about 1000 acres an hour

south of
Rochester.

Avoca, Bath area?


East Bloomfield, around routes 5 & 20.


Ah, I know the area, somewhat. I used to live in Avoca, if you know
where that is.


Yeah. Travelling between Rochester & Corning, I've always intended to stop
and spend some time fishing the Cohocton. But, I never seem to have time.
I'm addicted to the Chemung. :-)


I lived on Neil's Creek, a nice trout stream. Was funny
to watch on April 1st as the city boys invaded in there brand new
Orvis gear, thousand dollar fly rods, etc. I knew every fish holding
hole in the creek, and would come out, poor farm boy, with my Mitchell
300 that was older than I was, and start pulling fish! They'd even try
to BUY fish from me!


We see them here, too, mostly on Oatka Creek near Scottsville. They all
Trout Unlimited members, and they like to give speeches about how flies hurt
trout less than a Mepps with a treble hook. Never mind that the fish never
swallow my lures because I change the hooks to larger ones just for trout,
and that I can unhook a fish and put it back in under 10 seconds, while
they're doing surgery for 5 minutes with their Orvis wonder tool. :-)


The Brooklyn hunters who infect the Catskills are quite a crew, too. All
amateurs. When I was in college, my roommate and I were sitting in the
Roscoe Diner when a NYS trooper walked in and sat down a few stools

away. We
were hoping that the neon "We Are Stoned" signs on our foreheads weren't
noticeable. There were a bunch of hunters in the parking lot admiring

each
others' new guns, new orange vests, etc. Suddenly....BLAM! One of the

idiots
shot out the windshield of the trooper's car. Poor cop shook his head,

says
to the waitress "Oh no....they're back", and goes outside & starts
collecting guns and taking names.

Around here, at least 2-3 hunters are killed each year, either with

their
own guns, falling out of tree stands, or due to the stupidity of their
hunting partners. My former landlord was shot in the leg with an arror

by
another hunter. He was in a tree stand on totally flat land, wearing

blaze
orange. I guess he looked like one of them thar tree deer. :-)


We used to hate it when they invaded our local bar, we were just
country boys, and for various reasons, some legal, we wanted to be
left alone. They drew cops around us, and generally raised hell, which
was OUR vocation!


I always sorta wonder about some of those local joints out in the farmlands.
:-)



Clams Canino December 2nd 03 06:41 PM

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No.

It's a farm - a business where chickens are systemicly hatched , raised,
grown, and slaughtered for our meat. No one takes any sick pleasure in
chasing, shooting or scaring them. (at least I hope there isn't a serial
killer wannabe in the slaughter dept.!)

-W


"Greg" wrote in message
...

Isn't the Purdue chicken farm the ultimate "canned hunt"?




Greg December 2nd 03 10:18 PM

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No.

It's a farm - a business where chickens are systemicly hatched , raised,
grown, and slaughtered for our meat. No one takes any sick pleasure in
chasing, shooting or scaring them. (at least I hope there isn't a serial
killer wannabe in the slaughter dept.!)


You know I bet the chicken doesn't really care how much pleasure the killer
has.

BTW that is EXACTLY where I want the mass murderers working. It is a lot better
than having them at the Post Office.

Clams Canino December 2nd 03 10:26 PM

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snicker

-W

"Greg" wrote in message
...


BTW that is EXACTLY where I want the mass murderers working. It is a lot

better
than having them at the Post Office.





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