"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Ball probably is very young, very smug, inexperienced in the reality of
the world and likely believes the holocaust was a myth.


Another Dave Hall?

If you can cite cases of this practice being endorsed by Wal-Mart
corporate, then I am in complete agreement with you. A few isolated
cases may be nothing more than a few overzealous store managers bucking
for a promotion, by lowering overhead costs...

Dave


WalMart will swear up and down that it has "no idea" this goes on in their
stores. They have in the past, they will in the future. Walmart will swear up
and down that it never uses undocumented workers earning well below any legal
minimum to clean its stores....(just forms a subsidiary corp to do so).

It's just like forcing suppliers tomove mfg offshore. Walmart doesn't tell the
suppliers
it won't buy domestic goods, but does tell the suppliers it will only pay a
dirt cheap price (that is impossible to meet with domestic production).

WalMart doesn't tell its store managers to
work the employees off the clock- it just simply sets staffing, budget, and
workload
parameters that leave the managers no other choices. WalMart managers video
conference with the home office on a regular basis, and any manager with higher
than normal labor costs is severely admonished in front of the other managers.
When a single manager cheats the system and works people off the clock, others
are compelled to follow suit or risk being compared unfavorably to their peers.

WalMart can publicly condemn working employees "off the clock", all the while
continuing to set standards that require
2500 man/hours per week to run a store and budgeting for 21-2200.

You think the managers who have been found guilty of this practice do so
because they are fundamentally evil? You think its just a coincidence that this
practice has been exposed at WalMart stores all over the United States?

In all fairness, Chuck, the cost of buying your own Blue Choice policy here
(Rochester) is about $6-7k per year.

Does that $7k a year policy also carry a $3000 deductible?

Lone Haranguer wrote:


Jonathan Ball wrote:

jps wrote:

Bull****, they collect tolls off of blood money.

Prove it.


http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm

A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from
beginning to end.

jps wrote:

In article , says...


I think that is sufficient proof that the claim was accurate.
LZ



Thanks LZ.

Mr. Jonathan Ball should probably look into Swiss history a little more.

I think you should look into it in the first place,
whiner. It's obvious you never have.

Harry Krause wrote:

jps wrote:


In article , says...


I think that is sufficient proof that the claim was accurate.
LZ


Thanks LZ.

Mr. Jonathan Ball should probably look into Swiss history a little more.

It's pretty clear they're a mercantile lot living under the
misperception of neutrality.

The Jewish people are just one of many who've been stolen from and then
stiff armed by Swiss banking laws. There are folks around the globe
who've been screwed by creeps, thugs and the like whose ill-gotten gains
are "protected" by the Swiss banking system.

It's a pretty country hiding some of the ugliest secrets in the world.

jps



Ball probably is very young,

No. $50 says I'm older and have more documentable
education than you, putz.

very smug,

Hardly. The correct term is self confident. I am self
confident, you are smug. Older, wiser people like me
know the difference.

inexperienced in the reality of the world

No.

and likely believes the holocaust was a myth.

No.

Fred Ziffel wrote:

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:32:56 GMT, Jonathan Ball
wrote:



We used to make very high quality products too.

We still do. We make those things where we have some
comparative advantage. Increasingly, the things we
make are not tangible. That doesn't make them any less
valuable.


Sorry, I've been listening to these same bull**** arguments for over
20 years,

No, you clearly *haven't* been listening to them. You
very clearly don't understand comparative advantage,
and patterns of trade. You are economically illiterate.

and we continue to have a declining standard of living,

That's false.

and now huge trade deficits,

Not because of anything wrong with the concept of
comparative advantage. We have massive trade deficits
because of bad government fiscal policy.

and in the not too distant future, we are
going to have a HUGE devaluation in our dollar.

Which works to REVERSE the trade deficit. If you knew
anything, anything at all, about economics, you'd know
that. But you don't.

We have lost most of
the technological advantage that we used to have.

ABSOLUTLEY false. You just don't know what the hell
you're talking about.

If you think these
things are good for America, YOU are the one with the stupid thinking.

The loss of technological advantage would be bad, but
it's not happening. The rest, you simply get wrong, as
an economics-illiterate is expected to do.

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...


A real store would've moved those women out of the line, and perhaps
even
called the police. Not WM, though. As far as they're concerned,
their
customers' time is worthless.


You can't put the blame on that type of behavior squarely on the
shoulders of Wal-Mart exclusively. Many other department stores work
in
the same way. Any time you have a store which attracts a clientele
which
is not "bloomingdales" quality, you employ people at or near minimum
wage, and do not offer line managers any incentive to do any more than
babysit the employees, you will get this sort of situation. I've been
in
similar situations (I always end up picking the worst line) in grocery
stores as well as department stores.

Dave



I have, too. In the "other" store I shop at, the cashier's blinking
light
would've gone on and a manager or security person would've been there in
30
seconds. Not Wal Mart, though.

Again, it's probably a local thing, and not something endemic to the
Walmart business plan.



Something else interesting about the WM near me: You know how you hear a
gentle beep from some cash registers each time an item is dragged across
the
scanner? At WM, they've connected that to the public address system at
the
front. Unbelievably loud and annoying. WTF? This is supposed to make the
place sound interesting?

What? You've got to be kidding. That would drive me nuts if I had to
listen to that for hours on end....

Dave



I kid you not. At first, I wondered if my 50 year old hearing had begun to
lose some of its directional sensitivity. But, last time I was at WM, my 14
yr old son & two friends were with me. They focused on the sources and sure
enough, it was coming from the PA system. You know the 120 decibel French
fry timers at McDonalds? Lower the level a bit, but multiply by however many
registers are beeping.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
In all fairness, Chuck, the cost of buying your own Blue Choice policy
here
(Rochester) is about $6-7k per year.

Does that $7k a year policy also carry a $3000 deductible?

Are you being facetious?

If not, and I understand your question, co-pays are $5 for normal doctor
visit, $10-$15 for specialists, and if I recall, $35 or $50 for E.R. Surgery
is also under $100.

"Jonathan Ball" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Lone Haranguer wrote:


Jonathan Ball wrote:

jps wrote:

Bull****, they collect tolls off of blood money.

Prove it.


http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm

A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from
beginning to end.


I'm not sure what you're having trouble believing, but perhaps things like
this will snap you out of whatever trance you're in:
http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/IRURF.pdf