What do you do with
people who don't have enough skills to command jobs that 'pay a living
wage'?

There are a few "don't do's".....

High on the list would be "don't threaten your powerless mini-wage employee
with termination if he or she is unwilling to go clock out and then return to
work for a few 'free' hours." WalMart has been fined and penalized in scores
of cases for this exact
practice.

On the clock work: Mini-wage but legal.
Off the clock work: Slavery. Outlawed 140 years ago.

Every person is entitled to compensation for honest labor. If we can't agree on
that basic premise, there is no hope for any additional discussion.

Good, does that mean this discussion is over?


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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What do you do with
people who don't have enough skills to command jobs that 'pay a living
wage'?

There are a few "don't do's".....

High on the list would be "don't threaten your powerless mini-wage
employee
with termination if he or she is unwilling to go clock out and then return
to
work for a few 'free' hours." WalMart has been fined and penalized in
scores
of cases for this exact
practice.

On the clock work: Mini-wage but legal.
Off the clock work: Slavery. Outlawed 140 years ago.

Every person is entitled to compensation for honest labor. If we can't
agree on
that basic premise, there is no hope for any additional discussion.

Good, does that mean this discussion is over?

Only if:

Every person is entitled to compensation for honest labor. If we can't
agree on
that basic premise, there is no hope for any additional discussion.



In that case, there's no purpose in hollering into a void.

Free market spin? "Every person is entitled to compensation for honest labor-
unless we can figure a way to screw them out of compensation, (in which case
they are free to go work elsewhere, if they can)."

Gould 0738 wrote:

What do you do with
people who don't have enough skills to command jobs that 'pay a living
wage'?

There are a few "don't do's".....

High on the list would be "don't threaten your powerless mini-wage employee
with termination if he or she is unwilling to go clock out and then return to
work for a few 'free' hours." WalMart has been fined and penalized in scores
of cases for this exact
practice.

On the clock work: Mini-wage but legal.
Off the clock work: Slavery. Outlawed 140 years ago.

Every person is entitled to compensation for honest labor. If we can't agree on
that basic premise, there is no hope for any additional discussion.

If you can cite cases of this practice being endorsed by Wal-Mart
corporate, then I am in complete agreement with you. A few isolated
cases may be nothing more than a few overzealous store managers bucking
for a promotion, by lowering overhead costs...

Dave

If you can cite cases of this practice being endorsed by Wal-Mart
corporate, then I am in complete agreement with you. A few isolated
cases may be nothing more than a few overzealous store managers bucking
for a promotion, by lowering overhead costs...

Dave


WalMart will swear up and down that it has "no idea" this goes on in their
stores. They have in the past, they will in the future. Walmart will swear up
and down that it never uses undocumented workers earning well below any legal
minimum to clean its stores....(just forms a subsidiary corp to do so).

It's just like forcing suppliers tomove mfg offshore. Walmart doesn't tell the
suppliers
it won't buy domestic goods, but does tell the suppliers it will only pay a
dirt cheap price (that is impossible to meet with domestic production).

WalMart doesn't tell its store managers to
work the employees off the clock- it just simply sets staffing, budget, and
workload
parameters that leave the managers no other choices. WalMart managers video
conference with the home office on a regular basis, and any manager with higher
than normal labor costs is severely admonished in front of the other managers.
When a single manager cheats the system and works people off the clock, others
are compelled to follow suit or risk being compared unfavorably to their peers.

WalMart can publicly condemn working employees "off the clock", all the while
continuing to set standards that require
2500 man/hours per week to run a store and budgeting for 21-2200.

You think the managers who have been found guilty of this practice do so
because they are fundamentally evil? You think its just a coincidence that this
practice has been exposed at WalMart stores all over the United States?