hoary, you are delusional.

JAXAshby wrote:
hoary? ANY idea in that pea sized brain of yours of the relationship between
wave height and water depth?

Sure, Jax. Any idea of the impact of wind on water? How about surge,
Jax:? Even seen a 15'storm surge?





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"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JAXAshby wrote:

No worse than 5 footers on shallow Lake Erie. Not fun but no big deal.

no, 5 footers on the Bay -- should they EVER exist -- would be trouble.

That depends upon the skill of the boat captain and the capabilities of
the boat. It would be trouble for you and your blistered little sailbote.

Which speaks volumes for your ability to pilot a real boat.

Bert Robbins wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JAXAshby wrote:

No worse than 5 footers on shallow Lake Erie. Not fun but no big deal.

no, 5 footers on the Bay -- should they EVER exist -- would be trouble.

That depends upon the skill of the boat captain and the capabilities of
the boat. It would be trouble for you and your blistered little sailbote.

Which speaks volumes for your ability to pilot a real boat.



Bertie, we're talking boats here, not your Sevlor.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

yes. yes. and yes.

hoary? ANY idea in that pea sized brain of yours of the relationship
between
wave height and water depth?

Sure, Jax. Any idea of the impact of wind on water? How about surge,
Jax:? Even seen a 15'storm surge?





--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

JAXAshby wrote:

yes. yes. and yes.

hoary? ANY idea in that pea sized brain of yours of the relationship
between
wave height and water depth?

Sure, Jax. Any idea of the impact of wind on water? How about surge,
Jax:? Even seen a 15'storm surge?



OK...how deep must the water usually be at high tide 3' off the
shoreline for a 15' storm surge?



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

three feet.

how high must storm surge be a hundred yards from shore to make for storm surge
of 15 feet on shore?

How high must water be over the bottom to support five foot waves?

From: Harry Krause
Date: 8/15/2004 10:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

JAXAshby wrote:

yes. yes. and yes.

hoary? ANY idea in that pea sized brain of yours of the relationship
between
wave height and water depth?

Sure, Jax. Any idea of the impact of wind on water? How about surge,
Jax:? Even seen a 15'storm surge?



OK...how deep must the water usually be at high tide 3' off the
shoreline for a 15' storm surge?



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Harry,
I am sure you would stain your pants if you were out in 2' waves.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 12:25:02 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

The latest forecast for Chesapeake Bay:

Tonight
NE wind increasing to 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 40 kt...then N 35 to
40 kt with gusts up to 50 kt after midnight. Waves 2 ft...building to 5
ft after midnight. Widespread heavy rain and scattered tstms in the
evening tapering to scattered showers overnight.


Gusts up to 50 mph? On the Bay...

Too bad it'll be dark...watching five footers or more on the Bay would
be a sight to see.

It's not uncommon for 5-footers in English Bay. Calm out there this
weekend, though: tried fishing off the Pink Appts, anchored off Wreck
Beach and took Near Cove in, then motored over to Kits beach, anchored,
and took Near Cove to Bard On The Beach. Spent the night anchored, then
docked at Granville Island this afternoon for some shopping. Just got
back: What an Excellent "West Coast Weekend"!

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36



Five footers on Chesapeake Bay ain't pretty. It's not like five footers
out on the ocean. On the Bay, waves that size are going to be breaking,
and with the shifty winds, coming at you from several directions, and
with the peaks fairly close together. Running five footers on the ocean
can be fun; on the Bay, it loosens your fillings.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:02:46 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I don't know what JaxAss is trying to prove, other than being
argumentative.

He's trying to get someone to buy into a long, inane argument on the
mathematical properties of waves. A 5' wave will break in 6.5' of water,
making much of the Chesapeake incapable of supporting it, of course this
disregards many other factors.

" Wave heights in the Harbor (Baltimore) are minimal. The maximum wave
height that can be expected is 5 ft."

"Dependent on the wind speed and duration, winds from the north or south
have the greatest fetch in Chesapeake Bay. Pilots indicate that wave
heights in the upper Bay do not normally exceed 6 ft during severe
weather. However, the width of the lower Bay provides considerable fetch
for strong westerly or easterly winds that could be associated with
tropical cyclones. Easterly winds can produce the highest waves at the Bay
mouth that can result in wave heights of 10 ft or more."

From:

https://www.cnmoc.navy.mil/nmosw/tr8...text/sect4.htm

thunder wrote:

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:02:46 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I don't know what JaxAss is trying to prove, other than being
argumentative.

He's trying to get someone to buy into a long, inane argument on the
mathematical properties of waves. A 5' wave will break in 6.5' of water,
making much of the Chesapeake incapable of supporting it, of course this
disregards many other factors.

It's along the edges in the mid-Bay where it shallows up. There's plenty
of water once you are away from shore a ways. At the Calvert Cliffs, for
example, once you are out a half mile or so, there's 20' of water, and
you can watch your depth gauge drop down to 80-90' or so as you get to
the channel.



" Wave heights in the Harbor (Baltimore) are minimal. The maximum wave
height that can be expected is 5 ft."

"Dependent on the wind speed and duration, winds from the north or south
have the greatest fetch in Chesapeake Bay. Pilots indicate that wave
heights in the upper Bay do not normally exceed 6 ft during severe
weather. However, the width of the lower Bay provides considerable fetch
for strong westerly or easterly winds that could be associated with
tropical cyclones. Easterly winds can produce the highest waves at the Bay
mouth that can result in wave heights of 10 ft or more."

From:

https://www.cnmoc.navy.mil/nmosw/tr8...text/sect4.htm



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002