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![]() Lets review: You don't want to leave both batteries connected at all times because A) they are different size & capacity batteries and B) the charging system is 5 amps and so the starting battery only gets 2.5 amps and would take a long time to charge back up. ~ While some here seem to disagree, I've always heard and it makes sense to me that connecting dissimmilar batts for a long time ain't that good. You don't want to replace the 1000 battery, I guess because that battery *does* make sense for trolling. Plus to do it really right you'ld need two of the identical battery...something like two dual-purpose batts. ~ I just bought two dual purpose for about $110. This actually might be a good option for you. But read on. You don't want an A/B/BOTH switch because you seem afraid that either you or people you lend the boat to (guests) will accidentially leave it in the Both position. ~ While this makes sense to me....you also have to ask yourself: How likely is this to happen, for how long, and what damage will be done. If it's not likely and not a lot of "damage" then maybe who cares? Maybe just put a red X on the "both" position. Or, as Tom suggested, maybe you can disable the both position in some way. Also consider your statement: "...I figure I can watch the guage and just flip the switch when the voltage gets too high..." This seems to assume you will be watching the gague. It seems to me that you are more likely to forget to watch the gague after a while (get distracted by the big fish that's biting) then to accidentially put a switch into the BOTH position. ~ Same goes for your guests. If they are smart and ware enough to remember to flip the switch when the gague does a certain thing....they are probably smart enought to NOT use the both position. You may be suffering from the same thing I often do. I think a problem through TOO much and want the solution to be TOO perfect. That's not to say I don't get your points. They seem all or mostly all valid. And the perfect solution might be out there. But maybe you need to step back and be simpler about it. Good luck, Gary |
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Your thinking is correct about charging dissimilar batteries hooked in
parallel. You could wind up with one under charged and the other fried. Some google searching will verify this (for non-believers). I don't think you will find a marine switch without the both selection. Since you are dealing with relatively low amperage, you may be able to find another type A/B switch and then seal it with liquid tape. Just a thought. -- Bill Chesapeake, Va "CCred68046" wrote in message ... So... rather than replace the old, oddball battery(s), you think a different switch is an appropriate fix? Gimme a break! OK guys, I'm not going into huge detail here, I have done that before with this problem. My Johnson outboard has an un-regulated charging system. There is really nothing on my boat that uses any current to speak of. Once the starting battery is fully charged (very quickly) the voltage go's up to 16+ and this is not good. Its much cheaper to buy the switch to let the voltage go to the trolling motor battery which is usually discharged enough to keep it "busy" than it would be to try and put a regulator on it. To further complicate matters the charging system is only 5 amps so when I used a combiner, both batteries wound up low (I cant win!). Sooooo, I figure I can watch the guage and just flip the switch when the voltage gets too high and let the trolling battery have it. At 5 amps it would take it a looooooong time to recharge the trolling battery. If anyone else has a better plan I am listening. |
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CCred68046 wrote:
Does anyone know of a 2 battery switch that just allows for the use of one battery or another at a time but NOT both? I just want a simple A/B switch. Thanks. Most if not all those multiple battery switches include a "both" setting. They are set up so when you change from 1 to both or both to 2 etc the system never sees "no" connection, as this can damage some proper alternator charging systems on the spot. particularly if done when the alt. is running at high output. You can see how it might be tricky or at least more expensive to create a 1/2 switch with this protection. Just get 2 on/off battery switches & position them so it's really obvious if not physically difficult to have them both in the "on" position together. Don't get too fussed about having both batteries connected, the risks are much overstated by the scary bananas brigade & yes the old OB charging systems did show some high voltages but remember they never put out much real power (amps). It takes high volts & high amps together to murder a battery quickly & OB chargers of the type you've mentioned put out very low amps even when they do work:-). K |
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Don't get too fussed about having both batteries connected, the risks
are much overstated by the scary bananas brigade & yes the old OB charging systems did show some high voltages but remember they never put out much real power (amps). It takes high volts & high amps Thanks Karen, In spite of the high voltage and all the doom everyone warned me about, nothing was ever hurt. I just find it interesting that no one I have ever found can explain to me WHY they would make something that could do this and how mine ran perfect for years and all of a sudden decided to run at 16 volts. Its only 5 amps so I guess its just a personal thing with me ![]() |
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CCred68046 wrote:
Don't get too fussed about having both batteries connected, the risks are much overstated by the scary bananas brigade & yes the old OB charging systems did show some high voltages but remember they never put out much real power (amps). It takes high volts & high amps Thanks Karen, In spite of the high voltage and all the doom everyone warned me about, nothing was ever hurt. I just find it interesting that no one I have ever found can explain to me WHY they would make something that could do this and how mine ran perfect for years and all of a sudden decided to run at 16 volts. Its only 5 amps so I guess its just a personal thing with me ![]() It's cheap:-) K |
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