anchor question?
 

"Wiley" wrote in message
...
On 6/14/2010 6:41 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jun 14, 12:18 am, wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:50:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Last but not least, chain provides abrasion resistance where it is
most needed. A nylon rode dragging on the bottom will not last
long,
particularly on a rocky or coral bottom.

Can't you be fined for damaging coral? I thought that was the norm
these
days. Seems like you shouldn't be anchoring where you can do damage,
so
that leaves sand, mud, and rocks (which sounds hard, no pun
intended).

Depends where you lay anchor. But if you were a boater you would
know
that. But as usual, just a dumb she-it ...

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

Hey bozo... please tell us where you can put your anchor (assuming you
had
one of course) on coral where you wouldn't damage it. I'm sure there
are
some places where you wouldn't be caught or where the locals don't
care,
but
since you're not going to be going to any of those places...

As usual, you demonstrate just how asinine you really are.
le

It turns out that there are stray bits of coral in many, many places.
They are scattered around the bottom like small rocks, are very sharp
and abrasive, and impossible to avoid in some areas. Since they are
not part of a living coral reef there is no real need to avoid them.

You have much to learn and should avoid being overly critical of those
who try to explain things to you.

I have no doubt that coral exists in lots of places. Seems to me that
you
can almost always avoid them if you're careful.

You said that "there is no real need to avoid them," but in the previous
sentence said that they "are very sharp and abrasive." Seems to me that
there is a real need to avoid them.

As far as being overly critical, that's a reaction to the low-brow,
mean-spirited attitude of Canuck and a few others. I don't think I've
been
overly critical of you or Greg or others who have been civil and
helpful. If
you claim that I have "much to learn" (which I'm not disputing), then it
seems to me if you want to contribute to my learning, one should be
civil
and not an ass.

Between the two of you, Wayne B is not the ass.

The little bitch wants us to be nice to her and teach her stuff? She needs
to do an attitude reversal before that will happen.

Go drop dead (metaphorically of course).

anchor question?
 

In article ,
says...

"Wiley" wrote in message
...
On 6/13/2010 8:50 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 13/06/2010 5:48 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:50:21 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

The anchor chain (usually long as boat length), helps keep the anchor
set
and makes it less likely to drag.

Last but not least, chain provides abrasion resistance where it is
most needed. A nylon rode dragging on the bottom will not last long,
particularly on a rocky or coral bottom.

Can't you be fined for damaging coral? I thought that was the norm
these
days. Seems like you shouldn't be anchoring where you can do damage, so
that leaves sand, mud, and rocks (which sounds hard, no pun intended).

Depends where you lay anchor. But if you were a boater you would know
that. But as usual, just a dumb she-it ...

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

Hey bozo... please tell us where you can put your anchor (assuming you
had one of course) on coral where you wouldn't damage it. I'm sure there
are some places where you wouldn't be caught or where the locals don't
care, but since you're not going to be going to any of those places...

As usual, you demonstrate just how asinine you really are.


Play nice with the boys and you won't get your ass handed to you 50 times
a day.

You Dopers & wannabes can't find your own ass with both hands.... how are
you going to hand anyone else's??

~snerk~ once again, that name calling and insult slinging make you sound
very intelligent and sophisticated just like me!

anchor question?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:18:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I have no doubt that coral exists in lots of places. Seems to me that you
can almost always avoid them if you're careful.


Not always true, depends on where you are.

Seems like a contradiction to me. If it depends on where you are, and you
know there's coral "there," then you should be able to avoid that place.
Also, I said almost always... not always.

You said that "there is no real need to avoid them," but in the previous
sentence said that they "are very sharp and abrasive." Seems to me that
there is a real need to avoid them.

There is no need to avoid them for ecological reasons, and assuming
you have a decent length of chain attached to your anchor, as everyone
should, there is no reason to be concerned about abrasion either.

I guess it depends on the definition of "decent length" of chain. Is that
20' or 30' or all chain or what? Seems open to interpretation. And, if you
have less than a decent amount, and you know you're going to a place that
potentially has coral, seems reasonable to either avoid that place, get more
chain, or talk to the locals before you try to anchor.

anchor question?
 

"Wiley" wrote in message
...
On 6/13/2010 8:50 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 13/06/2010 5:48 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:50:21 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

The anchor chain (usually long as boat length), helps keep the anchor
set
and makes it less likely to drag.

Last but not least, chain provides abrasion resistance where it is
most needed. A nylon rode dragging on the bottom will not last long,
particularly on a rocky or coral bottom.

Can't you be fined for damaging coral? I thought that was the norm
these
days. Seems like you shouldn't be anchoring where you can do damage, so
that leaves sand, mud, and rocks (which sounds hard, no pun intended).

Depends where you lay anchor. But if you were a boater you would know
that. But as usual, just a dumb she-it ...

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

Hey bozo... please tell us where you can put your anchor (assuming you
had one of course) on coral where you wouldn't damage it. I'm sure there
are some places where you wouldn't be caught or where the locals don't
care, but since you're not going to be going to any of those places...

As usual, you demonstrate just how asinine you really are.


Play nice with the boys and you won't get your ass handed to you 50 times
a day.

Let me know when you think you think you or anyone with your lack of
intelligence has "handed" my ass to me. You are certainly an idiot and the
only ass handling you're capable of would be you attempting to wipe your own
butt.

anchor question?
 

On 6/14/2010 2:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wiley" wrote in message
...
On 6/14/2010 6:41 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jun 14, 12:18 am, wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:50:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Last but not least, chain provides abrasion resistance where it is
most needed. A nylon rode dragging on the bottom will not last
long,
particularly on a rocky or coral bottom.

Can't you be fined for damaging coral? I thought that was the norm
these
days. Seems like you shouldn't be anchoring where you can do
damage, so
that leaves sand, mud, and rocks (which sounds hard, no pun
intended).

Depends where you lay anchor. But if you were a boater you would
know
that. But as usual, just a dumb she-it ...

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

Hey bozo... please tell us where you can put your anchor (assuming
you had
one of course) on coral where you wouldn't damage it. I'm sure
there are
some places where you wouldn't be caught or where the locals don't
care,
but
since you're not going to be going to any of those places...

As usual, you demonstrate just how asinine you really are.
le

It turns out that there are stray bits of coral in many, many places.
They are scattered around the bottom like small rocks, are very sharp
and abrasive, and impossible to avoid in some areas. Since they are
not part of a living coral reef there is no real need to avoid them.

You have much to learn and should avoid being overly critical of those
who try to explain things to you.

I have no doubt that coral exists in lots of places. Seems to me
that you
can almost always avoid them if you're careful.

You said that "there is no real need to avoid them," but in the
previous
sentence said that they "are very sharp and abrasive." Seems to me that
there is a real need to avoid them.

As far as being overly critical, that's a reaction to the low-brow,
mean-spirited attitude of Canuck and a few others. I don't think
I've been
overly critical of you or Greg or others who have been civil and
helpful. If
you claim that I have "much to learn" (which I'm not disputing),
then it
seems to me if you want to contribute to my learning, one should be
civil
and not an ass.

Between the two of you, Wayne B is not the ass.

The little bitch wants us to be nice to her and teach her stuff? She
needs to do an attitude reversal before that will happen.

Go drop dead (metaphorically of course).


The Dumpster Diva rises to the occasion and struts her stuff.

anchor question?
 

On 6/14/2010 2:47 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:18:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I have no doubt that coral exists in lots of places. Seems to me that
you
can almost always avoid them if you're careful.


Not always true, depends on where you are.

Seems like a contradiction to me. If it depends on where you are, and
you know there's coral "there," then you should be able to avoid that
place. Also, I said almost always... not always.

You said that "there is no real need to avoid them," but in the previous
sentence said that they "are very sharp and abrasive." Seems to me that
there is a real need to avoid them.

There is no need to avoid them for ecological reasons, and assuming
you have a decent length of chain attached to your anchor, as everyone
should, there is no reason to be concerned about abrasion either.

I guess it depends on the definition of "decent length" of chain. Is
that 20' or 30' or all chain or what? Seems open to interpretation. And,
if you have less than a decent amount, and you know you're going to a
place that potentially has coral, seems reasonable to either avoid that
place, get more chain, or talk to the locals before you try to anchor.


Pass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all about
coral, and ground tackle. This should be good.

anchor question?
 

On 6/14/2010 2:49 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wiley" wrote in message
...
On 6/13/2010 8:50 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 13/06/2010 5:48 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:50:21 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

The anchor chain (usually long as boat length), helps keep the
anchor
set
and makes it less likely to drag.

Last but not least, chain provides abrasion resistance where it is
most needed. A nylon rode dragging on the bottom will not last long,
particularly on a rocky or coral bottom.

Can't you be fined for damaging coral? I thought that was the norm
these
days. Seems like you shouldn't be anchoring where you can do
damage, so
that leaves sand, mud, and rocks (which sounds hard, no pun intended).

Depends where you lay anchor. But if you were a boater you would know
that. But as usual, just a dumb she-it ...

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

Hey bozo... please tell us where you can put your anchor (assuming you
had one of course) on coral where you wouldn't damage it. I'm sure there
are some places where you wouldn't be caught or where the locals don't
care, but since you're not going to be going to any of those places...

As usual, you demonstrate just how asinine you really are.


Play nice with the boys and you won't get your ass handed to you 50
times a day.

Let me know when you think you think you or anyone with your lack of
intelligence has "handed" my ass to me. You are certainly an idiot and
the only ass handling you're capable of would be you attempting to wipe
your own butt.


Ohhhh Nooooo. Half the fun is you not realizeing when it's been done.

anchor question?
 

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:47:43 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I guess it depends on the definition of "decent length" of chain. Is that
20' or 30' or all chain or what? Seems open to interpretation. And, if you
have less than a decent amount, and you know you're going to a place that
potentially has coral, seems reasonable to either avoid that place, get more
chain, or talk to the locals before you try to anchor.


Half a boat length of chain is the recommended minimum. Most serious
cruisers are using all chain (with a snubber) for a variety of good
reasons.

Did you get a copy of Chapman's yet ? You'll learn a lot from it and
get more details than anyone here can provide:

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti...Small-Handling

anchor question?
 

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:35:13 -0400, Wiley
wrote:

Pass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all about
coral, and ground tackle. This should be good.

Heh.

There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully. :-)

anchor question?
 

"Wiley" wrote in message
...
On 6/14/2010 2:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wiley" wrote in message
...
On 6/14/2010 6:41 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jun 14, 12:18 am, wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:50:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Last but not least, chain provides abrasion resistance where it
is
most needed. A nylon rode dragging on the bottom will not last
long,
particularly on a rocky or coral bottom.

Can't you be fined for damaging coral? I thought that was the norm
these
days. Seems like you shouldn't be anchoring where you can do
damage, so
that leaves sand, mud, and rocks (which sounds hard, no pun
intended).

Depends where you lay anchor. But if you were a boater you would
know
that. But as usual, just a dumb she-it ...

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

Hey bozo... please tell us where you can put your anchor (assuming
you had
one of course) on coral where you wouldn't damage it. I'm sure
there are
some places where you wouldn't be caught or where the locals don't
care,
but
since you're not going to be going to any of those places...

As usual, you demonstrate just how asinine you really are.
le

It turns out that there are stray bits of coral in many, many places.
They are scattered around the bottom like small rocks, are very sharp
and abrasive, and impossible to avoid in some areas. Since they are
not part of a living coral reef there is no real need to avoid them.

You have much to learn and should avoid being overly critical of
those
who try to explain things to you.

I have no doubt that coral exists in lots of places. Seems to me
that you
can almost always avoid them if you're careful.

You said that "there is no real need to avoid them," but in the
previous
sentence said that they "are very sharp and abrasive." Seems to me
that
there is a real need to avoid them.

As far as being overly critical, that's a reaction to the low-brow,
mean-spirited attitude of Canuck and a few others. I don't think
I've been
overly critical of you or Greg or others who have been civil and
helpful. If
you claim that I have "much to learn" (which I'm not disputing),
then it
seems to me if you want to contribute to my learning, one should be
civil
and not an ass.

Between the two of you, Wayne B is not the ass.

The little bitch wants us to be nice to her and teach her stuff? She
needs to do an attitude reversal before that will happen.

Go drop dead (metaphorically of course).


The Dumpster Diva rises to the occasion and struts her stuff.

The stalker hasn't changed one bit.

anchor question?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:35:13 -0400, Wiley
wrote:

Pass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all about
coral, and ground tackle. This should be good.

Heh.

There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully. :-)

So, Wayne... for someone who promotes "teaching" is this kind of comment one
you approve of? Apparently it is, since you think he's amusing.

Yet, you have no problem scolding me about _my_ attitude...

anchor question?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:47:43 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I guess it depends on the definition of "decent length" of chain. Is that
20' or 30' or all chain or what? Seems open to interpretation. And, if you
have less than a decent amount, and you know you're going to a place that
potentially has coral, seems reasonable to either avoid that place, get
more
chain, or talk to the locals before you try to anchor.


Half a boat length of chain is the recommended minimum. Most serious
cruisers are using all chain (with a snubber) for a variety of good
reasons.

Did you get a copy of Chapman's yet ? You'll learn a lot from it and
get more details than anyone here can provide:

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti...Small-Handling

Yes, have a copy though not the latest. So, a 40' boat would have at least
20 feet. Seems like with all chain that could get pretty heavy if you need
to get it out without a windlass... Seems like picking a good place with
(among other things) less likelihood of coral would mean you wouldn't need
to have as much use for all chain.

anchor question?
 

"Wiley" wrote in message
...
On 6/14/2010 2:49 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wiley" wrote in message
...
On 6/13/2010 8:50 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 13/06/2010 5:48 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:50:21 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

The anchor chain (usually long as boat length), helps keep the
anchor
set
and makes it less likely to drag.

Last but not least, chain provides abrasion resistance where it is
most needed. A nylon rode dragging on the bottom will not last long,
particularly on a rocky or coral bottom.

Can't you be fined for damaging coral? I thought that was the norm
these
days. Seems like you shouldn't be anchoring where you can do
damage, so
that leaves sand, mud, and rocks (which sounds hard, no pun
intended).

Depends where you lay anchor. But if you were a boater you would know
that. But as usual, just a dumb she-it ...

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

Hey bozo... please tell us where you can put your anchor (assuming you
had one of course) on coral where you wouldn't damage it. I'm sure
there
are some places where you wouldn't be caught or where the locals don't
care, but since you're not going to be going to any of those places...

As usual, you demonstrate just how asinine you really are.


Play nice with the boys and you won't get your ass handed to you 50
times a day.

Let me know when you think you think you or anyone with your lack of
intelligence has "handed" my ass to me. You are certainly an idiot and
the only ass handling you're capable of would be you attempting to wipe
your own butt.


Ohhhh Nooooo. Half the fun is you not realizeing when it's been done.

Actually, half the fun is you thinking you're smarter than a post hole.

anchor question?
 

On Jun 14, 4:52*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

...

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:35:13 -0400, Wiley
wrote:

Pass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all about
coral, and ground tackle. This should be good.

Heh.

There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully. *:-)

So, Wayne... for someone who promotes "teaching" is this kind of comment one
you approve of? Apparently it is, since you think he's amusing.

Yet, you have no problem scolding me about _my_ attitude...

OK, I'll jump in here. I didn't see Wayne aproving of anyone elses
comments, and I didn't see where Wayne thought the other post[s] were
amusing. But Wayne is a great sailor and not only with his Grand Banks
but is an accomplished wind sailor/racer.

If I was to be a sail or a trawler, I wouldnt' take his advice
lightly. From what I understand the reason why there is so much chain
involved is not only to thwart scrapes that would cut a rope but the
weight of the chain helps to set the anchor. There's more than one
reason to use chain and the length of the chain than what seems to be
of face value.

I will say that for the small runabout lake type boating, I really
don't have any need for an anchor that I know of. However, my 23 ft.
Marquis was used on lake Erie for fishing/cruising, and it came with a
plow-type anchor and it had about 8 ft. of chain between the rope and
the anchor, That's not quite half the length of the boat, but I can
see the principle of the idea as Wayne has described.

OK, I'm out.

anchor question?
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Jun 14, 4:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

...

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:35:13 -0400, Wiley
wrote:

Pass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all about
coral, and ground tackle. This should be good.

Heh.

There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully. :-)

So, Wayne... for someone who promotes "teaching" is this kind of comment
one
you approve of? Apparently it is, since you think he's amusing.

Yet, you have no problem scolding me about _my_ attitude...

OK, I'll jump in here. I didn't see Wayne aproving of anyone elses
comments, and I didn't see where Wayne thought the other post[s] were
amusing. But Wayne is a great sailor and not only with his Grand Banks
but is an accomplished wind sailor/racer.

I have no doubt that Wayne is a great sailor. He said it the very last post:

jerkPass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all about
jerkcoral, and ground tackle. This should be good.
wayne Heh.
wayne There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully. :-)

So, was he amused or not, in your humble opinion, by the dumpster Diva
reference?


If I was to be a sail or a trawler, I wouldnt' take his advice
lightly. From what I understand the reason why there is so much chain
involved is not only to thwart scrapes that would cut a rope but the
weight of the chain helps to set the anchor. There's more than one
reason to use chain and the length of the chain than what seems to be
of face value.

Ok. And what about retrieving the chain if you don't have help from the
windlass?

I will say that for the small runabout lake type boating, I really
don't have any need for an anchor that I know of. However, my 23 ft.
Marquis was used on lake Erie for fishing/cruising, and it came with a
plow-type anchor and it had about 8 ft. of chain between the rope and
the anchor, That's not quite half the length of the boat, but I can
see the principle of the idea as Wayne has described.

OK, I'm out.

Why?

anchor question?
 

On 6/14/2010 6:54 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Jun 14, 4:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

...

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:35:13 -0400, Wiley
wrote:

Pass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all about
coral, and ground tackle. This should be good.

Heh.

There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully. :-)

So, Wayne... for someone who promotes "teaching" is this kind of
comment one
you approve of? Apparently it is, since you think he's amusing.

Yet, you have no problem scolding me about _my_ attitude...

OK, I'll jump in here. I didn't see Wayne aproving of anyone elses
comments, and I didn't see where Wayne thought the other post[s] were
amusing. But Wayne is a great sailor and not only with his Grand Banks
but is an accomplished wind sailor/racer.

I have no doubt that Wayne is a great sailor. He said it the very last
post:

jerkPass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all about
jerkcoral, and ground tackle. This should be good.
wayne Heh.
wayne There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully. :-)

So, was he amused or not, in your humble opinion, by the dumpster Diva
reference?


If I was to be a sail or a trawler, I wouldnt' take his advice
lightly. From what I understand the reason why there is so much chain
involved is not only to thwart scrapes that would cut a rope but the
weight of the chain helps to set the anchor. There's more than one
reason to use chain and the length of the chain than what seems to be
of face value.

Ok. And what about retrieving the chain if you don't have help from the
windlass?

I will say that for the small runabout lake type boating, I really
don't have any need for an anchor that I know of. However, my 23 ft.
Marquis was used on lake Erie for fishing/cruising, and it came with a
plow-type anchor and it had about 8 ft. of chain between the rope and
the anchor, That's not quite half the length of the boat, but I can
see the principle of the idea as Wayne has described.

OK, I'm out.

Why?


Maybe it's because you smell bad.

anchor question?
 

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:54:54 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Half a boat length of chain is the recommended minimum. Most serious
cruisers are using all chain (with a snubber) for a variety of good
reasons.

Did you get a copy of Chapman's yet ? You'll learn a lot from it and
get more details than anyone here can provide:

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti...Small-Handling

Yes, have a copy though not the latest. So, a 40' boat would have at least
20 feet. Seems like with all chain that could get pretty heavy if you need
to get it out without a windlass... Seems like picking a good place with
(among other things) less likelihood of coral would mean you wouldn't need
to have as much use for all chain.


There are a number of ways to pull a heavy anchor and chain without a
windlass, but a windlass is certainly the preferred way of doing it.
Most serious cruisers prefer all chain simply because it provides more
security when anchoring, and when you are living on your boat in
remote places, that counts for a lot. Chain sets faster because the
catenary effect reduces the angle of pull on the anchor. Chain offers
a great deal of protection from accidental or intentional
cuts/abrasion. Chain has a very high ultimate breaking strength,
etc., etc.

99 out of 100 international/offshore cruising boats can't be all
wrong. Get the big anchor, get the chain, and get the windlass
unless you intend to spend all of your time in a marina.

anchor question?
 

Wiley wrote:
On 6/14/2010 6:41 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jun 14, 12:18 am, wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:50:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Last but not least, chain provides abrasion resistance where it is
most needed. A nylon rode dragging on the bottom will not last
long,
particularly on a rocky or coral bottom.

Can't you be fined for damaging coral? I thought that was the norm
these
days. Seems like you shouldn't be anchoring where you can do
damage, so
that leaves sand, mud, and rocks (which sounds hard, no pun
intended).

Depends where you lay anchor. But if you were a boater you would
know
that. But as usual, just a dumb she-it ...

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

Hey bozo... please tell us where you can put your anchor (assuming
you had
one of course) on coral where you wouldn't damage it. I'm sure
there are
some places where you wouldn't be caught or where the locals don't
care,
but
since you're not going to be going to any of those places...

As usual, you demonstrate just how asinine you really are.
le

It turns out that there are stray bits of coral in many, many places.
They are scattered around the bottom like small rocks, are very sharp
and abrasive, and impossible to avoid in some areas. Since they are
not part of a living coral reef there is no real need to avoid them.

You have much to learn and should avoid being overly critical of those
who try to explain things to you.

I have no doubt that coral exists in lots of places. Seems to me
that you
can almost always avoid them if you're careful.

You said that "there is no real need to avoid them," but in the
previous
sentence said that they "are very sharp and abrasive." Seems to me that
there is a real need to avoid them.

As far as being overly critical, that's a reaction to the low-brow,
mean-spirited attitude of Canuck and a few others. I don't think
I've been
overly critical of you or Greg or others who have been civil and
helpful. If
you claim that I have "much to learn" (which I'm not disputing),
then it
seems to me if you want to contribute to my learning, one should be
civil
and not an ass.

Between the two of you, Wayne B is not the ass.

The little bitch wants us to be nice to her and teach her stuff? She
needs to do an attitude reversal before that will happen.
Well said.

anchor question?
 

YukonBound wrote:


"Wiley" wrote in message
...
On 6/13/2010 8:50 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 13/06/2010 5:48 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:50:21 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

The anchor chain (usually long as boat length), helps keep the
anchor
set
and makes it less likely to drag.

Last but not least, chain provides abrasion resistance where it is
most needed. A nylon rode dragging on the bottom will not last long,
particularly on a rocky or coral bottom.

Can't you be fined for damaging coral? I thought that was the norm
these
days. Seems like you shouldn't be anchoring where you can do
damage, so
that leaves sand, mud, and rocks (which sounds hard, no pun
intended).

Depends where you lay anchor. But if you were a boater you would know
that. But as usual, just a dumb she-it ...

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

Hey bozo... please tell us where you can put your anchor (assuming you
had one of course) on coral where you wouldn't damage it. I'm sure
there
are some places where you wouldn't be caught or where the locals don't
care, but since you're not going to be going to any of those places...

As usual, you demonstrate just how asinine you really are.


Play nice with the boys and you won't get your ass handed to you 50
times a day.

You Dopers & wannabes can't find your own ass with both hands.... how
are you going to hand anyone else's??
Say what?

anchor question?
 

nom=de=plume wrote:

You're unable to read? I never thought he was and never said he was,
but you are certainly one.


Want to try to post a real sentence?

anchor question?
 

nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:18:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I have no doubt that coral exists in lots of places. Seems to me
that you
can almost always avoid them if you're careful.


Not always true, depends on where you are.

Seems like a contradiction to me. If it depends on where you are, and
you know there's coral "there," then you should be able to avoid that
place. Also, I said almost always... not always.

You said that "there is no real need to avoid them," but in the
previous
sentence said that they "are very sharp and abrasive." Seems to me that
there is a real need to avoid them.

There is no need to avoid them for ecological reasons, and assuming
you have a decent length of chain attached to your anchor, as everyone
should, there is no reason to be concerned about abrasion either.

I guess it depends on the definition of "decent length" of chain. Is
that 20' or 30' or all chain or what? Seems open to interpretation.
And, if you have less than a decent amount, and you know you're going
to a place that potentially has coral, seems reasonable to either
avoid that place, get more chain, or talk to the locals before you try
to anchor.


Talk to the locals? Now that's funny!

Nom: Hi! I'm going to go on a cruise and I will be anchoring at
exactly 37.846474,-122.664127. Is that a suitable area to anchor?

Locals: Say what? You have a LOT to learn!

anchor question?
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:47:43 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


I guess it depends on the definition of "decent length" of chain. Is that
20' or 30' or all chain or what? Seems open to interpretation. And, if you
have less than a decent amount, and you know you're going to a place that
potentially has coral, seems reasonable to either avoid that place, get more
chain, or talk to the locals before you try to anchor.


Half a boat length of chain is the recommended minimum. Most serious
cruisers are using all chain (with a snubber) for a variety of good
reasons.

Did you get a copy of Chapman's yet ? You'll learn a lot from it and
get more details than anyone here can provide:

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti...Small-Handling

She would prefer to troll here.

anchor question?
 

nom=de=plume wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Jun 14, 4:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

...

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:35:13 -0400, Wiley
wrote:

Pass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all about
coral, and ground tackle. This should be good.

Heh.

There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully. :-)

So, Wayne... for someone who promotes "teaching" is this kind of
comment one
you approve of? Apparently it is, since you think he's amusing.

Yet, you have no problem scolding me about _my_ attitude...

OK, I'll jump in here. I didn't see Wayne aproving of anyone elses
comments, and I didn't see where Wayne thought the other post[s] were
amusing. But Wayne is a great sailor and not only with his Grand Banks
but is an accomplished wind sailor/racer.

I have no doubt that Wayne is a great sailor. He said it the very last
post:

jerkPass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all
about
jerkcoral, and ground tackle. This should be good.
wayne Heh.
wayne There's always more to learn but I will be filtering
carefully. :-)

So, was he amused or not, in your humble opinion, by the dumpster Diva
reference?


If I was to be a sail or a trawler, I wouldnt' take his advice
lightly. From what I understand the reason why there is so much chain
involved is not only to thwart scrapes that would cut a rope but the
weight of the chain helps to set the anchor. There's more than one
reason to use chain and the length of the chain than what seems to be
of face value.

Ok. And what about retrieving the chain if you don't have help from
the windlass?


You are looking at 40'+ boats without a windlass?

Keep on trollin'

anchor question?
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Wiley wrote:
On 6/14/2010 6:41 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jun 14, 12:18 am, wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:50:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Last but not least, chain provides abrasion resistance where it is
most needed. A nylon rode dragging on the bottom will not last
long,
particularly on a rocky or coral bottom.

Can't you be fined for damaging coral? I thought that was the norm
these
days. Seems like you shouldn't be anchoring where you can do
damage, so
that leaves sand, mud, and rocks (which sounds hard, no pun
intended).

Depends where you lay anchor. But if you were a boater you would
know
that. But as usual, just a dumb she-it ...

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

Hey bozo... please tell us where you can put your anchor (assuming
you had
one of course) on coral where you wouldn't damage it. I'm sure there
are
some places where you wouldn't be caught or where the locals don't
care,
but
since you're not going to be going to any of those places...

As usual, you demonstrate just how asinine you really are.
le

It turns out that there are stray bits of coral in many, many places.
They are scattered around the bottom like small rocks, are very sharp
and abrasive, and impossible to avoid in some areas. Since they are
not part of a living coral reef there is no real need to avoid them.

You have much to learn and should avoid being overly critical of those
who try to explain things to you.

I have no doubt that coral exists in lots of places. Seems to me that
you
can almost always avoid them if you're careful.

You said that "there is no real need to avoid them," but in the
previous
sentence said that they "are very sharp and abrasive." Seems to me that
there is a real need to avoid them.

As far as being overly critical, that's a reaction to the low-brow,
mean-spirited attitude of Canuck and a few others. I don't think I've
been
overly critical of you or Greg or others who have been civil and
helpful. If
you claim that I have "much to learn" (which I'm not disputing), then
it
seems to me if you want to contribute to my learning, one should be
civil
and not an ass.

Between the two of you, Wayne B is not the ass.

The little bitch wants us to be nice to her and teach her stuff? She
needs to do an attitude reversal before that will happen.
Well said.

Well said misogynistic asshole. You left off the two last words.

anchor question?
 

"Wiley" wrote in message
...
On 6/14/2010 6:54 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Jun 14, 4:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

...

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:35:13 -0400, Wiley
wrote:

Pass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all about
coral, and ground tackle. This should be good.

Heh.

There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully. :-)

So, Wayne... for someone who promotes "teaching" is this kind of
comment one
you approve of? Apparently it is, since you think he's amusing.

Yet, you have no problem scolding me about _my_ attitude...

OK, I'll jump in here. I didn't see Wayne aproving of anyone elses
comments, and I didn't see where Wayne thought the other post[s] were
amusing. But Wayne is a great sailor and not only with his Grand Banks
but is an accomplished wind sailor/racer.

I have no doubt that Wayne is a great sailor. He said it the very last
post:

jerkPass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all
about
jerkcoral, and ground tackle. This should be good.
wayne Heh.
wayne There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully.
:-)

So, was he amused or not, in your humble opinion, by the dumpster Diva
reference?


If I was to be a sail or a trawler, I wouldnt' take his advice
lightly. From what I understand the reason why there is so much chain
involved is not only to thwart scrapes that would cut a rope but the
weight of the chain helps to set the anchor. There's more than one
reason to use chain and the length of the chain than what seems to be
of face value.

Ok. And what about retrieving the chain if you don't have help from the
windlass?

I will say that for the small runabout lake type boating, I really
don't have any need for an anchor that I know of. However, my 23 ft.
Marquis was used on lake Erie for fishing/cruising, and it came with a
plow-type anchor and it had about 8 ft. of chain between the rope and
the anchor, That's not quite half the length of the boat, but I can
see the principle of the idea as Wayne has described.

OK, I'm out.

Why?


Maybe it's because you smell bad.

Maybe you're just a stalker who's so used to sitting in his own poop
everything smells the same.

anchor question?
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Jun 14, 4:52 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

...

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:35:13 -0400, Wiley
wrote:

Pass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all about
coral, and ground tackle. This should be good.

Heh.

There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully. :-)

So, Wayne... for someone who promotes "teaching" is this kind of
comment one
you approve of? Apparently it is, since you think he's amusing.

Yet, you have no problem scolding me about _my_ attitude...

OK, I'll jump in here. I didn't see Wayne aproving of anyone elses
comments, and I didn't see where Wayne thought the other post[s] were
amusing. But Wayne is a great sailor and not only with his Grand Banks
but is an accomplished wind sailor/racer.

I have no doubt that Wayne is a great sailor. He said it the very last
post:

jerkPass the popcorn. The dumpster Diva is going to teach Wayne all
about
jerkcoral, and ground tackle. This should be good.
wayne Heh.
wayne There's always more to learn but I will be filtering carefully.
:-)

So, was he amused or not, in your humble opinion, by the dumpster Diva
reference?


If I was to be a sail or a trawler, I wouldnt' take his advice
lightly. From what I understand the reason why there is so much chain
involved is not only to thwart scrapes that would cut a rope but the
weight of the chain helps to set the anchor. There's more than one
reason to use chain and the length of the chain than what seems to be
of face value.

Ok. And what about retrieving the chain if you don't have help from the
windlass?


You are looking at 40'+ boats without a windlass?

Keep on trollin'

Please show me where I said that. What I said was what happens if it fails
to work. So, you're just an idiot.

anchor question?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:54:54 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Half a boat length of chain is the recommended minimum. Most serious
cruisers are using all chain (with a snubber) for a variety of good
reasons.

Did you get a copy of Chapman's yet ? You'll learn a lot from it and
get more details than anyone here can provide:

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti...Small-Handling

Yes, have a copy though not the latest. So, a 40' boat would have at least
20 feet. Seems like with all chain that could get pretty heavy if you need
to get it out without a windlass... Seems like picking a good place with
(among other things) less likelihood of coral would mean you wouldn't need
to have as much use for all chain.


There are a number of ways to pull a heavy anchor and chain without a
windlass, but a windlass is certainly the preferred way of doing it.
Most serious cruisers prefer all chain simply because it provides more
security when anchoring, and when you are living on your boat in
remote places, that counts for a lot. Chain sets faster because the
catenary effect reduces the angle of pull on the anchor. Chain offers
a great deal of protection from accidental or intentional
cuts/abrasion. Chain has a very high ultimate breaking strength,
etc., etc.

99 out of 100 international/offshore cruising boats can't be all
wrong. Get the big anchor, get the chain, and get the windlass
unless you intend to spend all of your time in a marina.

Interesting... I'd like to know how you would go about raising an anchor
with all that chain by hand? I didn't read anything like that so far. You
can't put the chain on a regular winch right? So, I was thinking you would
have to sail up to just above the anchor, but that's still a lot of
chain/anchor.

Not saying the cruisers are wrong... obviously they're right. I'm just
wondering how they do it, esp. in the case of mechanism failure. That's the
point of being a sailor.. dealing with adversity, etc.

anchor question?
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:47:43 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


I guess it depends on the definition of "decent length" of chain. Is
that
20' or 30' or all chain or what? Seems open to interpretation. And, if
you
have less than a decent amount, and you know you're going to a place
that
potentially has coral, seems reasonable to either avoid that place, get
more
chain, or talk to the locals before you try to anchor.


Half a boat length of chain is the recommended minimum. Most serious
cruisers are using all chain (with a snubber) for a variety of good
reasons.

Did you get a copy of Chapman's yet ? You'll learn a lot from it and
get more details than anyone here can provide:

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti...Small-Handling

She would prefer to troll here.

You'd prefer to be an asshole.

anchor question?
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:18:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I have no doubt that coral exists in lots of places. Seems to me that
you
can almost always avoid them if you're careful.


Not always true, depends on where you are.

Seems like a contradiction to me. If it depends on where you are, and you
know there's coral "there," then you should be able to avoid that place.
Also, I said almost always... not always.

You said that "there is no real need to avoid them," but in the
previous
sentence said that they "are very sharp and abrasive." Seems to me that
there is a real need to avoid them.

There is no need to avoid them for ecological reasons, and assuming
you have a decent length of chain attached to your anchor, as everyone
should, there is no reason to be concerned about abrasion either.

I guess it depends on the definition of "decent length" of chain. Is that
20' or 30' or all chain or what? Seems open to interpretation. And, if
you have less than a decent amount, and you know you're going to a place
that potentially has coral, seems reasonable to either avoid that place,
get more chain, or talk to the locals before you try to anchor.


Talk to the locals? Now that's funny!

Nom: Hi! I'm going to go on a cruise and I will be anchoring at exactly
37.846474,-122.664127. Is that a suitable area to anchor?

Locals: Say what? You have a LOT to learn!

Lat/Lon in the SF area? Seems rather more precise than you can really be
with a GPS. I guess you'd be unable to get any info about the conditions
before you go, because you're incapable of using a phone, VHF, two cans with
a string between them?

You have a LOT to learn!

anchor question?
 

On Jun 14, 11:44*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

...



On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:54:54 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Half a boat length of chain is the recommended minimum. * Most serious
cruisers are using all chain (with a snubber) for a variety of good
reasons.

Did you get a copy of Chapman's yet ? * You'll learn a lot from it and
get more details than anyone here can provide:

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti...Small-Handling

Yes, have a copy though not the latest. So, a 40' boat would have at least
20 feet. Seems like with all chain that could get pretty heavy if you need
to get it out without a windlass... Seems like picking a good place with
(among other things) less likelihood of coral would mean you wouldn't need
to have as much use for all chain.

There are a number of ways to pull a heavy anchor and chain without a
windlass, but a windlass is certainly the preferred way of doing it.
Most serious cruisers prefer all chain simply because it provides more
security when anchoring, and when you are living on your boat in
remote places, that counts for a lot. *Chain sets faster because *the
catenary effect reduces the angle of pull on the anchor. *Chain offers
a great deal of protection from accidental or intentional
cuts/abrasion. * Chain has a very high ultimate breaking strength,
etc., etc.

99 out of 100 international/offshore cruising boats can't be all
wrong. * Get the big anchor, get the chain, and get the windlass
unless you intend to spend all of your time in a marina.

Interesting... I'd like to know how you would go about raising an anchor
with all that chain by hand? I didn't read anything like that so far. You
can't put the chain on a regular winch right? So, I was thinking you would
have to sail up to just above the anchor, but that's still a lot of
chain/anchor.

Not saying the cruisers are wrong... obviously they're right. I'm just
wondering how they do it, esp. in the case of mechanism failure. That's the
point of being a sailor.. dealing with adversity, etc.

I'm glad you know what defines a sailor, D'Plume. I'd say you're ready
for your yacht now.

anchor question?
 

On Jun 14, 11:46*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:18:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I have no doubt that coral exists in lots of places. Seems to me that
you
can almost always avoid them if you're careful.

Not always true, depends on where you are.

Seems like a contradiction to me. If it depends on where you are, and you
know there's coral "there," then you should be able to avoid that place.
Also, I said almost always... not always.

You said that "there is no real need to avoid them," but in the
previous
sentence said that they "are very sharp and abrasive." Seems to me that
there is a real need to avoid them.

There is no need to avoid them for ecological reasons, and assuming
you have a decent length of chain attached to your anchor, as everyone
should, there is no reason to be concerned about abrasion either.

I guess it depends on the definition of "decent length" of chain. Is that
20' or 30' or all chain or what? Seems open to interpretation. And, if
you have less than a decent amount, and you know you're going to a place
that potentially has coral, seems reasonable to either avoid that place,
get more chain, or talk to the locals before you try to anchor.

Talk to the locals? *Now that's funny!

Nom: Hi! *I'm going to go on a cruise and I will be anchoring at exactly
37.846474,-122.664127. *Is that a suitable area to anchor?

Locals: Say what? *You have a LOT to learn!

Lat/Lon in the SF area? Seems rather more precise than you can really be
with a GPS. I guess you'd be unable to get any info about the conditions
before you go, because you're incapable of using a phone, VHF, two cans with
a string between them?

You have a LOT to learn!

That's telling them, D'Plume. You're speaking like an experienced
yeoman now.

anchor question?
 

On 6/15/2010 4:12 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jun 14, 11:46 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:18:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I have no doubt that coral exists in lots of places. Seems to me that
you
can almost always avoid them if you're careful.

Not always true, depends on where you are.

Seems like a contradiction to me. If it depends on where you are, and you
know there's coral "there," then you should be able to avoid that place.
Also, I said almost always... not always.

You said that "there is no real need to avoid them," but in the
previous
sentence said that they "are very sharp and abrasive." Seems to me that
there is a real need to avoid them.

There is no need to avoid them for ecological reasons, and assuming
you have a decent length of chain attached to your anchor, as everyone
should, there is no reason to be concerned about abrasion either.

I guess it depends on the definition of "decent length" of chain. Is that
20' or 30' or all chain or what? Seems open to interpretation. And, if
you have less than a decent amount, and you know you're going to a place
that potentially has coral, seems reasonable to either avoid that place,
get more chain, or talk to the locals before you try to anchor.

Talk to the locals? Now that's funny!

Nom: Hi! I'm going to go on a cruise and I will be anchoring at exactly
37.846474,-122.664127. Is that a suitable area to anchor?

Locals: Say what? You have a LOT to learn!

Lat/Lon in the SF area? Seems rather more precise than you can really be
with a GPS. I guess you'd be unable to get any info about the conditions
before you go, because you're incapable of using a phone, VHF, two cans with
a string between them?

You have a LOT to learn!

That's telling them, D'Plume. You're speaking like an experienced
yeoman now.

Not quite, but she's getting there. I rather enjoy these little missaves
of hers.

anchor question?
 

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:44:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Not saying the cruisers are wrong... obviously they're right. I'm just
wondering how they do it, esp. in the case of mechanism failure. That's the
point of being a sailor.. dealing with adversity, etc.

The solution(s) are left as a student excercise as they become more
familiar with boats, boating, equipment and seamanship.

Hint: Necessity is the mother of invention.

anchor question?
 

On Jun 14, 11:46*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


two cans with
a string between them?

You have a LOT to learn!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That describes my internet connection

?;^ )

anchor question?
 

On 6/15/10 10:55 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 14, 11:46 pm, wrote:


two cans with
a string between them?

You have a LOT to learn!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That describes my internet connection

?;^ )


When did you get the other can? :)

anchor question?
 

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:55:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Jun 14, 11:46*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


two cans with
a string between them?

You have a LOT to learn!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That describes my internet connection

?;^ )

You should use at least ten feet of chain for that purpose!!

anchor question?
 

On Jun 15, 11:53*am, John H wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:55:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Jun 14, 11:46*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

two cans with
a string between them?

You have a LOT to learn!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That describes my internet connection

?;^ )

You should use at least ten feet of chain for that purpose!!

I tired that, and found out that fishing line works much better. Fiber-
optics!

anchor question?
 

On Jun 15, 9:57*am, Harry wrote:
On 6/15/10 10:55 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jun 14, 11:46 pm, *wrote:

two cans with
a string between them?

You have a LOT to learn!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That describes my internet connection

?;^ )

When did you get the other can? * * *:)

When the paper cone gave out, Obviously!

anchor question?
 

On 6/15/10 12:55 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 15, 9:57 am, wrote:
On 6/15/10 10:55 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jun 14, 11:46 pm, wrote:

two cans with
a string between them?

You have a LOT to learn!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That describes my internet connection

?;^ )

When did you get the other can? :)

When the paper cone gave out, Obviously!


I've got a client like you who at the moment is on vacation up in maine.
His laptop blew up...literally. He used it for email, mostly. At least
15 years old. So he wanted a suggestion for a replacement. I recommended
this:

http://tinyurl.com/287hfdm



Smith-Corona Galaxis

anchor question?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:44:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Not saying the cruisers are wrong... obviously they're right. I'm just
wondering how they do it, esp. in the case of mechanism failure. That's
the
point of being a sailor.. dealing with adversity, etc.

The solution(s) are left as a student excercise as they become more
familiar with boats, boating, equipment and seamanship.

Hint: Necessity is the mother of invention.

So, you're unable or unwilling to answer a question? So much for your
credentials....