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On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. |
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On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. Gas here used to run about $10 a month, with just the heater. Now with heater (more efficient model) and a gas dryer, the prices have soared. I pay about $120 average a month in gas. As electric Is very pricey. I get an Electric Vehicle rate and pay almost 13 cents a KWh at night, but 42.5 cents peak rate times. If I charged my car during peak times, I figured the gas equivalent is over $4 a gallon. |
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On Sun, 16 May 2021 18:24:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. Gas here used to run about $10 a month, with just the heater. Now with heater (more efficient model) and a gas dryer, the prices have soared. I pay about $120 average a month in gas. As electric Is very pricey. I get an Electric Vehicle rate and pay almost 13 cents a KWh at night, but 42.5 cents peak rate times. If I charged my car during peak times, I figured the gas equivalent is over $4 a gallon. I think I would get an electric dryer and only do laundry at night. ;-) |
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On Mon, 17 May 2021 18:04:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2021 18:24:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. Gas here used to run about $10 a month, with just the heater. Now with heater (more efficient model) and a gas dryer, the prices have soared. I pay about $120 average a month in gas. As electric Is very pricey. I get an Electric Vehicle rate and pay almost 13 cents a KWh at night, but 42.5 cents peak rate times. If I charged my car during peak times, I figured the gas equivalent is over $4 a gallon. I think I would get an electric dryer and only do laundry at night. ;-) We used to have electric and went to gas when it was cheaper. Before the solar install. Maybe you stay up 11 pm to 6 am for laundry, but not going to make wife. Happy wife, happy life. We are the wrong people to ask. I haven't gone to bed before 2am in 25 years. |
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On 5/16/21 12:25 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. I looked up Maryland...it's in the 11 cents/KWH range in this state, too, on average. Our local company gets: SMECO Energy Rates May 2021 Residential: $0.057873 Plus a couple of "adjustments" and "tariffs" that add about a penny and a half. Last time I checked propane, it was about $2.75 a gallon, but that rate fluctuates widely. Have seen it at $3+ a gallon. -- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. * |
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On Sun, 16 May 2021 14:29:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 5/16/21 12:25 PM, wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. I looked up Maryland...it's in the 11 cents/KWH range in this state, too, on average. Our local company gets: SMECO Energy Rates May 2021 Residential: $0.057873 Plus a couple of "adjustments" and "tariffs" that add about a penny and a half. That is the usage rate but the only real way to look at it is to divide the total bill by the number of KWH used. Last time I checked propane, it was about $2.75 a gallon, but that rate fluctuates widely. Have seen it at $3+ a gallon. Propane can go from a little over $2 a gallon to over $4 here. I don't buy enough to care that much tho. I know after Irma and through most of that winter it was around $4 but I didn't need it enough to pay that much. In the spring I filled my tank for $2.11 "on sale". It is still out there. |
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On 5/16/21 7:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2021 14:29:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/16/21 12:25 PM, wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. I looked up Maryland...it's in the 11 cents/KWH range in this state, too, on average. Our local company gets: SMECO Energy Rates May 2021 Residential: $0.057873 Plus a couple of "adjustments" and "tariffs" that add about a penny and a half. That is the usage rate but the only real way to look at it is to divide the total bill by the number of KWH used. Last time I checked propane, it was about $2.75 a gallon, but that rate fluctuates widely. Have seen it at $3+ a gallon. Propane can go from a little over $2 a gallon to over $4 here. I don't buy enough to care that much tho. I know after Irma and through most of that winter it was around $4 but I didn't need it enough to pay that much. In the spring I filled my tank for $2.11 "on sale". It is still out there. We have a good number of propane "appliances," and two propane fireplaces. The propane supplier we use is very customer friendly and service-oriented, so it is easy to maintain or upgrade or replace whatever uses their product. When we added the second fireplace a few years ago, the supplier sent out a crew to dig the 3' deep trench between the buried tank for about 75' to where it enters the house, plus the fittings, the hookups and the county inspection. The fittings and hookup were done by a union plumber. My recollection is that the only charge was for the wrapped copper pipe and fittings. -- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. * |
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On Mon, 17 May 2021 09:20:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 5/16/21 7:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2021 14:29:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/16/21 12:25 PM, wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. I looked up Maryland...it's in the 11 cents/KWH range in this state, too, on average. Our local company gets: SMECO Energy Rates May 2021 Residential: $0.057873 Plus a couple of "adjustments" and "tariffs" that add about a penny and a half. That is the usage rate but the only real way to look at it is to divide the total bill by the number of KWH used. Last time I checked propane, it was about $2.75 a gallon, but that rate fluctuates widely. Have seen it at $3+ a gallon. Propane can go from a little over $2 a gallon to over $4 here. I don't buy enough to care that much tho. I know after Irma and through most of that winter it was around $4 but I didn't need it enough to pay that much. In the spring I filled my tank for $2.11 "on sale". It is still out there. We have a good number of propane "appliances," and two propane fireplaces. The propane supplier we use is very customer friendly and service-oriented, so it is easy to maintain or upgrade or replace whatever uses their product. When we added the second fireplace a few years ago, the supplier sent out a crew to dig the 3' deep trench between the buried tank for about 75' to where it enters the house, plus the fittings, the hookups and the county inspection. The fittings and hookup were done by a union plumber. My recollection is that the only charge was for the wrapped copper pipe and fittings. I paid about $1500 for the buried tank and the connections for the pool heater and generator (tank, pipe, regulators, permits and labor). I own the tank so I have some flexibility in who I get to fill it. |
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