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On Sat, 15 May 2021 06:57:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:On 5/14/2021 8:12 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2021 11:35:07 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 2:21:17 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2021 07:08:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/13/2021 11:50 PM, wrote: On Wed, 12 May 2021 10:51:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Three of the four gas stations in our area had product to sell and no lines. The big volume dealer -WaWa- was sold out and awaiting a tank truck delivery later today. We had spot shortages here and we don't even get our gas from that pipe. Nobody in the peninsula does. It was just panic buying AKA a media driven emergency. Now that everyone has every gas can and tupperware bowl full of gas, supplies are recovering. I still got gas yesterday at my regular station no line no problem regular price. Cracks me up though. Responding to the alternative methods to deliver fuel, Biden's Energy Secretary stated that the pipelines are the better way to transport it even though her boss axed the Keystone pipeline. Then she thumbed her typical liberal nose at the public by saying that if people used electric vehicles, they wouldn't be experiencing these fuel shortages. She also happens to own stock in an electric bus manufacturer that Biden visited to promote. The value of her stock holdings are potentially worth $ millions and she has not divested her holdings even though there's a conflict of interest issue. But what really cracks me up is none of these electric vehicle advocates ever mention where the energy comes from to charge up their electric vehicle batteries. The vast bulk of it is generated by fossil fuel plants. Plus, whenever energy is transformed from one state to another there are losses involved. Laws of physics prevail. There are also the I2R losses in the transmission lines. A while ago one of my inspector trade rags had a story "How hot are those conductors?" talking about how hot some transmission lines run and how that affects line sag but the fact remains that is waste heat going into the air. It is hard to get the utilities to say how much power is wasted in transmission and the crazy bookkeeping they use on the grid makes those numbers hard to actually believe when you see them but it is a pretty big number if your power is coming from very far away. I2R still wins in the end. I'm sure you know that's the reason the transmission lines are run at such a high voltage. It minimizes he losses, but there are still some. The company I used to work for put in some equipment for a regional power company some years ago. They told me about an incident where, in the middle of the summer in a coastal SC area, a transmission line that was hot and sagging separated at a badly crimped barrel "butt" splice. No one was there to see it, but when it separated it produced a fireball that, when it hit the ground, blew a big enough hole to drive a truck down into and hide it. They said there were clumps of fused sand laying around. That would have been cool to see, just not too close up. Watts is watts (is 3.4BTU) , if you have 300 miles of transmission line that is running at 40-50c above ambient air, you are wasting a lot of watts. When you consider transmission lines typically carry two or 3 triplexes that starts looking more like 1800-2700 miles of wire to go 300 miles. You don't usually see a lot of snow around transformer farms either. They do twist the triplexes to minimize parasitic losses but they are still there or you wouldn't be hearing all the concerns about poweThe line radiation. I have tried several times to find out what the difference is between power generated and power actually billed to a customer but those numbers are hard to come by, even by people I know, close to the business. As I said, the screwy grid bookkeeping makes it hard to get a real answer. I'll pay attention to my next electricity bill. I know it iscomposed of two major charges, one for generation and the otherfor delivery.I think the delivery component is higher than the generation.This is my last billChargesRate:RS-1 RESIDENTIAL SERVICEkWh Used 2048Customer charge:$8.34Non-fuel  First 1000 kWh at $0.067000) $148.34(Over 1000 kWh at $0.077620)FuelFirst 1000 kWh at $0.021230) $53.96(Over 1000 kWh at $0.031230)Electric service amount 210.64Gross receipts tax 5.40Franchise charge 10.00Taxes and charges 15.40Total new charges $226.04Total amount you owe $226.04Works out to $0.110 per kwh My last month KWH was 595. 2048 seems really high. Check and see if your neighbors are plugged into your outdoor outlets, or worse, tapped into your meter. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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#3
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On Sat, 15 May 2021 08:41:43 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
Wrote in message:r On Sat, 15 May 2021 06:57:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:On 5/14/2021 8:12 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2021 11:35:07 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 2:21:17 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2021 07:08:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/13/2021 11:50 PM, wrote: On Wed, 12 May 2021 10:51:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Three of the four gas stations in our area had product to sell and no lines. The big volume dealer -WaWa- was sold out and awaiting a tank truck delivery later today. We had spot shortages here and we don't even get our gas from that pipe. Nobody in the peninsula does. It was just panic buying AKA a media driven emergency. Now that everyone has every gas can and tupperware bowl full of gas, supplies are recovering. I still got gas yesterday at my regular station no line no problem regular price. Cracks me up though. Responding to the alternative methods to deliver fuel, Biden's Energy Secretary stated that the pipelines are the better way to transport it even though her boss axed the Keystone pipeline. Then she thumbed her typical liberal nose at the public by saying that if people used electric vehicles, they wouldn't be experiencing these fuel shortages. She also happens to own stock in an electric bus manufacturer that Biden visited to promote. The value of her stock holdings are potentially worth $ millions and she has not divested her holdings even though there's a conflict of interest issue. But what really cracks me up is none of these electric vehicle advocates ever mention where the energy comes from to charge up their electric vehicle batteries. The vast bulk of it is generated by fossil fuel plants. Plus, whenever energy is transformed from one state to another there are losses involved. Laws of physics prevail. There are also the I2R losses in the transmission lines. A while ago one of my inspector trade rags had a story "How hot are those conductors?" talking about how hot some transmission lines run and how that affects line sag but the fact remains that is waste heat going into the air. It is hard to get the utilities to say how much power is wasted in transmission and the crazy bookkeeping they use on the grid makes those numbers hard to actually believe when you see them but it is a pretty big number if your power is coming from very far away. I2R still wins in the end. I'm sure you know that's the reason the transmission lines are run at such a high voltage. It minimizes he losses, but there are still some. The company I used to work for put in some equipment for a regional power company some years ago. They told me about an incident where, in the middle of the summer in a coastal SC area, a transmission line that was hot and sagging separated at a badly crimped barrel "butt" splice. No one was there to see it, but when it separated it produced a fireball that, when it hit the ground, blew a big enough hole to drive a truck down into and hide it. They said there were clumps of fused sand laying around. That would have been cool to see, just not too close up. Watts is watts (is 3.4BTU) , if you have 300 miles of transmission line that is running at 40-50c above ambient air, you are wasting a lot of watts. When you consider transmission lines typically carry two or 3 triplexes that starts looking more like 1800-2700 miles of wire to go 300 miles. You don't usually see a lot of snow around transformer farms either. They do twist the triplexes to minimize parasitic losses but they are still there or you wouldn't be hearing all the concerns about poweThe line radiation. I have tried several times to find out what the difference is between power generated and power actually billed to a customer but those numbers are hard to come by, even by people I know, close to the business. As I said, the screwy grid bookkeeping makes it hard to get a real answer. I'll pay attention to my next electricity bill. I know it iscomposed of two major charges, one for generation and the otherfor delivery.I think the delivery component is higher than the generation.This is my last billChargesRate:RS-1 RESIDENTIAL SERVICEkWh Used 2048Customer charge:$8.34Non-fuel First 1000 kWh at $0.067000) $148.34(Over 1000 kWh at $0.077620)FuelFirst 1000 kWh at $0.021230) $53.96(Over 1000 kWh at $0.031230)Electric service amount 210.64Gross receipts tax 5.40Franchise charge 10.00Taxes and charges 15.40Total new charges $226.04Total amount you owe $226.04Works out to $0.110 per kwhMy last month KWH was 595. 2048 seems really high. Check and see if your neighbors are plugged into your outdoor outlets, or worse, tapped into your meter. This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. |
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On Sat, 15 May 2021 08:41:43 -0400 (EDT), justan Wrote in message:r On Sat, 15 May 2021 06:57:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:On 5/14/2021 8:12 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2021 11:35:07 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 2:21:17 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2021 07:08:29 -0400,"Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/13/2021 11:50 PM, wrote: On Wed, 12 May 2021 10:51:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Three of the four gas stations in our area had product to sell and no lines. The big volume dealer -WaWa- was sold outand awaiting a tank truck delivery later today. We had spot shortages here and we don't even get our gas from that pipe. Nobody in the peninsula does. It was just panic buying AKA a media driven emergency. Now that everyone has every gas can and tupperware bowl full of gas, supplies arerecovering. I still got gas yesterday at my regular station no line no problem regular price. Cracks me up though. Responding to the alternative methods to deliver fuel, Biden's Energy Secretary stated that the pipelines are the better way to transport it even though her boss axed theKeystone pipeline. Then she thumbed her typical liberal nose at the public by saying that if people used electric vehicles, they wouldn't be experiencing these fuel shortages. She also happens to own stock in an electric bus manufacturer that Biden visited to promote. The value of her stock holdingsare potentially worth $ millions and she has not divested her holdings even though there's a conflict of interest issue. But what really cracks me up is none of these electric vehicle advocates ever mention where the energy comes from to charge up their electric vehicle batteries. The vast bulk of itisgenerated by fossil fuel plants. Plus, whenever energy is transformed from one state to another there are losses involved. Laws of physics prevail. There are also the I2R losses in the transmission lines. A while ago one of my inspector trade rags had a story "How hot are those conductors?" talking abouthow hot some transmission lines run and how that affects line sag but the fact remains that is waste heat going into the air. It is hard to get the utilities to say how much power is wasted in transmission and the crazy bookkeeping they use on the grid makes those numbers hard to actually believe when you seethem but it is a pretty big number if your power is coming from very far away. I2R still wins in the end. I'm sure you know that's the reason the transmission lines are run at such a high voltage. It minimizes he losses, but there are still some. The company I used to work for put in some equipment for aregional power company some years ago. They told me about an incident where, in the middle of the summer in a coastal SC area, a transmission line that was hot and sagging separated at a badly crimped barrel "butt" splice. No one was there to see it, but when it separated it produced a fireball that, when it hit theground, blew a big enough hole to drive a truck down into and hide it. They said there were clumps of fused sand laying around. That would have been cool to see, just not too close up. Watts is watts (is 3.4BTU) , if you have 300 miles of transmission line that is running at 40-50c above ambient air, you arewasting a lot of watts. When you consider transmission lines typically carry two or 3 triplexes that starts looking more like 1800-2700 miles of wire to go 300 miles. You don't usually see a lot of snow around transformer farms either. They do twist the triplexes to minimize parasitic losses but they are still there oryouwouldn't be hearing all the concerns about poweThe line radiation. I have tried several times to find out what the difference is between power generated and power actually billed to a customer but those numbers are hard to come by, even by people I know, close to the business. As I said, the screwy grid bookkeepingmakes it hard to get a real answer. I'll pay attention to my next electricity bill. I know it iscomposed of two major charges, one for generation and the otherfor delivery.I think the delivery component is higher than the generation.This is my last billChargesRate:RS-1 RESIDENTIAL SERVICEkWh Used 2048Customercharge:$8.34Non-fuel First 1000 kWh at $0.067000) $148.34(Over 1000 kWh at $0.077620)FuelFirst 1000 kWh at $0.021230) $53.96(Over 1000 kWh at $0.031230)Electric service amount 210.64Gross receipts tax 5.40Franchise charge 10.00Taxes and charges 15.40Total new charges $226.04Total amount you owe $226.04Works out to $0.110 per kwhMy last month KWH was 595. 2048 seems really high. Check and see if your neighbors are plugged into your outdoor outlets, or worse, tapped into your meter.This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPLand the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridgesand a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. No pumps, No pool, no well, Gas water heater, 4 fridges, 1 freezer, 1 portable AC, 1 12 seer house AC dont know the tons, probably 4 or 6, Lighting all LED. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. |
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On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. Gas here used to run about $10 a month, with just the heater. Now with heater (more efficient model) and a gas dryer, the prices have soared. I pay about $120 average a month in gas. As electric Is very pricey. I get an Electric Vehicle rate and pay almost 13 cents a KWh at night, but 42.5 cents peak rate times. If I charged my car during peak times, I figured the gas equivalent is over $4 a gallon. |
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On Sun, 16 May 2021 18:24:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. Gas here used to run about $10 a month, with just the heater. Now with heater (more efficient model) and a gas dryer, the prices have soared. I pay about $120 average a month in gas. As electric Is very pricey. I get an Electric Vehicle rate and pay almost 13 cents a KWh at night, but 42.5 cents peak rate times. If I charged my car during peak times, I figured the gas equivalent is over $4 a gallon. I think I would get an electric dryer and only do laundry at night. ;-) |
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On 5/16/21 12:25 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. I looked up Maryland...it's in the 11 cents/KWH range in this state, too, on average. Our local company gets: SMECO Energy Rates May 2021 Residential: $0.057873 Plus a couple of "adjustments" and "tariffs" that add about a penny and a half. Last time I checked propane, it was about $2.75 a gallon, but that rate fluctuates widely. Have seen it at $3+ a gallon. -- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. * |
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On Sun, 16 May 2021 14:29:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 5/16/21 12:25 PM, wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2021 09:53:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/15/21 9:02 PM, wrote: This is an all electric house. The only utilities coming in are FPL and the telco. With 5 pumps running off and on, 2 AC units, a water heater, 2 fridges and a few PCs going all the time, I can rack up some KWH. Five pumps? Are you running an aquaculture farm there? We have two heat pumps, but in the winter the main floor of the house is heated via a gas furnace with electric backup. Water heaters are gas, stovetop is gas, fireplaces are gas. 2 pumps for the well. One pool pump, one spa pump for circulation, one R/O booster pump. There is also a jet pump and heater for the spa but those are only on when I am using it. That really makes the meter hum. I can't get gas here or I would have it. OTOH gas isn't all that cheap here and electricity is. (11c /KWH) Teco is still recovering the cost of running a pipe from Tampa and they still haven't expanded into most old neighborhoods. I haven't really looked into it since I can't get it but at my wife's club the snowbirds were complaining that gas was a lot cheaper up there. I remember it being a pretty small bill when I was there. I looked up Maryland...it's in the 11 cents/KWH range in this state, too, on average. Our local company gets: SMECO Energy Rates May 2021 Residential: $0.057873 Plus a couple of "adjustments" and "tariffs" that add about a penny and a half. That is the usage rate but the only real way to look at it is to divide the total bill by the number of KWH used. Last time I checked propane, it was about $2.75 a gallon, but that rate fluctuates widely. Have seen it at $3+ a gallon. Propane can go from a little over $2 a gallon to over $4 here. I don't buy enough to care that much tho. I know after Irma and through most of that winter it was around $4 but I didn't need it enough to pay that much. In the spring I filled my tank for $2.11 "on sale". It is still out there. |
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