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On 3/31/21 1:21 PM, Bill wrote:
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...anyone think he's going to "walk"? If so, why?-- * Lock up Trump and
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Tell us what you think and why, if you can.


It will be hard to get a conviction that will stand, due to the press and
politics.


If he is not convicted, it will be because of racism. The victim was
handcuffed and under the control of at least four cops. There was no
need to choke him to death.


See that is the problem. The ME found no signs of choking and there
were no bruises or other injuries. This guy had a heart attack and
died. Maybe Rachel never mentioned that but it will come out in the
trial.
The open question may hinge on whether Chauvin had a reasonable
expectation that if he let Floyd get up, he would become violent
again.
This could get back to the tape of the previous police encounter.

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On 3/31/21 11:39 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:29:14 -0400, Keyser Söze
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...anyone think he's going to "walk"? If so, why?


I think he gets acquitted or hangs the jury on the top 2 counts. They
may get the manslaughter charge to stick.
"(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an
unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or
great bodily harm to another".

I doubt that will keep the cities from burning tho.

The case that Floyd had a potentially lethal dose of crank and
fentanyl in his system along with his history of fighting with the
cops and preexisting medical issues may sway at least one juror,
no matter what.
We still haven't seen the other tape the defense got in of just what a
sweetheart Floyd was when the cops tried to arrest him before.
There may have been more going on here that we have been told.

I really wish we would make these cases with more deserving victims
like Breonna Taylor and not a thug like George Floyd.

The cops kill lots of far more innocent victims than this prick.


The videos show that just before the cop killed him, Floyd was on the
ground and handcuffed, and there were four cops right there. There was
no reason for Chauvin to murder him.



There is no reason why you should have to go to a payday lender. As I
stated earlier, press and politics will prevent a conviction. And you just
proved it with your statements.

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On 3/31/21 11:39 PM, wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:29:14 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: ...anyone think he's going to "walk"? If so, why? I think he gets acquitted or hangs the jury on the top 2 counts. They may get the manslaughter charge to stick. "(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another". I doubt that will keep the cities from burning tho. The case that Floyd had a potentially lethal dose of crank and fentanyl in his system along with his history of fighting with the cops and preexisting medical issues may sway at least one juror, no matter what. We still haven't seen the other tape the defense got in of just what a sweetheart Floyd was when the cops tried to arrest him before. There may have been more going on here that we have been told. I really wish we would make these cases with more deserving victims like Breonna Taylor and not a thug like George Floyd. The cops kill lots of far more innocent victims than this prick. The videos show that just before the cop killed him, Floyd was on the ground and handcuffed, and there were four cops right there. There was no reason for Chauvin to murder him.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *


They're sayin Floyd had enough fentenal, among other things, to
kill him. You care more about that dirtbag than innocent unborn
children. Thats par for Fat Harry. So who's the bigger dirtbag
Krause or Floyd. Al least Floyd isn't leaving behind a pile of
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On 3/31/21 11:39 PM, wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:29:14 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: ...anyone think he's going to "walk"? If so, why? I think he gets acquitted or hangs the jury on the top 2 counts. They may get the manslaughter charge to stick. "(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another". I doubt that will keep the cities from burning tho. The case that Floyd had a potentially lethal dose of crank and fentanyl in his system along with his history of fighting with the cops and preexisting medical issues may sway at least one juror, no matter what. We still haven't seen the other tape the defense got in of just what a sweetheart Floyd was when the cops tried to arrest him before. There may have been more going on here that we have been told. I really wish we would make these cases

with
more deserving victims like Breonna Taylor and not a thug like George Floyd. The cops kill lots of far more innocent victims than this prick. The videos show that just before the cop killed him, Floyd was on the ground and handcuffed, and there were four cops right there. There was no reason for Chauvin to murder him.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

They're sayin Floyd had enough fentenal, among other things, to
kill him. You care more about that dirtbag than innocent unborn
children. Thats par for Fat Harry. So who's the bigger dirtbag
Krause or Floyd. Al least Floyd isn't leaving behind a pile of
debt.


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On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 08:16:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 3/31/21 11:39 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:29:14 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...anyone think he's going to "walk"? If so, why?


I think he gets acquitted or hangs the jury on the top 2 counts. They
may get the manslaughter charge to stick.
"(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an
unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or
great bodily harm to another".

I doubt that will keep the cities from burning tho.

The case that Floyd had a potentially lethal dose of crank and
fentanyl in his system along with his history of fighting with the
cops and preexisting medical issues may sway at least one juror,
no matter what.
We still haven't seen the other tape the defense got in of just what a
sweetheart Floyd was when the cops tried to arrest him before.
There may have been more going on here that we have been told.

I really wish we would make these cases with more deserving victims
like Breonna Taylor and not a thug like George Floyd.

The cops kill lots of far more innocent victims than this prick.


The videos show that just before the cop killed him, Floyd was on the
ground and handcuffed, and there were four cops right there. There was
no reason for Chauvin to murder him.


If Floyd had just agreed to get up and get in the ****ing car this
would have been over before it started. Why do you always support
thugs fighting with the cops?

The ME report is pretty shaky about the "Murder" when the cause of
death was a heart attack, there was no trauma and no signs of
asphyxiation. There was also a fatal dose of fentanyl in his system
and indications of crystal meth.
The ME has stated that in any other circumstance, he would have ruled
this an OD, simply based on the evidence.
Political pressure had him calling it a homicide. That is what the
defense will be and it may win the day.

In a way I hope they hang the guy but only because we all pay when
these insurrectionists burn cities down ($13 BILLION just in insurance
claims, last summer alone) and I don't like paying that bill in
everything I buy, even if an innocent cop goes to prison.
OTOH the justice part of me expects he ends up innocent or with a hung
jury on all but the involuntary homicide charge.


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On 4/2/21 12:24 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 08:16:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/31/21 11:39 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:29:14 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...anyone think he's going to "walk"? If so, why?

I think he gets acquitted or hangs the jury on the top 2 counts. They
may get the manslaughter charge to stick.
"(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an
unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or
great bodily harm to another".

I doubt that will keep the cities from burning tho.

The case that Floyd had a potentially lethal dose of crank and
fentanyl in his system along with his history of fighting with the
cops and preexisting medical issues may sway at least one juror,
no matter what.
We still haven't seen the other tape the defense got in of just what a
sweetheart Floyd was when the cops tried to arrest him before.
There may have been more going on here that we have been told.

I really wish we would make these cases with more deserving victims
like Breonna Taylor and not a thug like George Floyd.

The cops kill lots of far more innocent victims than this prick.


The videos show that just before the cop killed him, Floyd was on the
ground and handcuffed, and there were four cops right there. There was
no reason for Chauvin to murder him.


If Floyd had just agreed to get up and get in the ****ing car this
would have been over before it started. Why do you always support
thugs fighting with the cops?

The ME report is pretty shaky about the "Murder" when the cause of
death was a heart attack, there was no trauma and no signs of
asphyxiation. There was also a fatal dose of fentanyl in his system
and indications of crystal meth.
The ME has stated that in any other circumstance, he would have ruled
this an OD, simply based on the evidence.
Political pressure had him calling it a homicide. That is what the
defense will be and it may win the day.

In a way I hope they hang the guy but only because we all pay when
these insurrectionists burn cities down ($13 BILLION just in insurance
claims, last summer alone) and I don't like paying that bill in
everything I buy, even if an innocent cop goes to prison.
OTOH the justice part of me expects he ends up innocent or with a hung
jury on all but the involuntary homicide charge.




Let's try this one more time. The dead man was on the ground,
handcuffed, and with four cops controlling him, and the killer cop was
on his neck for nine minutes before he died. That is what mattered. And
when the paramedic offered to take care of the guy before he died, the
cop refused to let him do so. It was murder by cop.

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On 4/2/21 12:24 AM, wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 08:16:58 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: On 3/31/21 11:39 PM, wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:29:14 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: ...anyone think he's going to "walk"? If so, why? I think he gets acquitted or hangs the jury on the top 2 counts. They may get the manslaughter charge to stick. "(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another". I doubt that will keep the cities from burning tho. The case that Floyd had a potentially lethal dose of crank and fentanyl in his system along with his history of fighting with the cops and preexisting medical issues may sway at least one juror, no matter what. We still haven't seen the other tape the defense got in of just what a sweetheart Floyd was when the cops tried to arrest him before. There may have been more going on here that we have been told. I really wish we would make these cases with more deserving victims like Breonna Taylor and not a thug like George Floyd. The cops kill lots of far more innocent victims than this prick. The videos show that just before the cop killed him, Floyd was on the ground and handcuffed, and there were four cops right there. There was no reason for Chauvin to murder him. If Floyd had just agreed to get up and get in the ****ing car this would have been over before it started. Why do you always support thugs fighting with the cops? The ME report is pretty shaky about the "Murder" when the cause of death was a heart attack, there was no trauma and no signs of asphyxiation. There was also a fatal dose of fentanyl in his system and indications of crystal meth. The ME has stated that in any other circumstance, he would have ruled this an OD, simply based on the evidence. Political pressure had him calling it a homicide. That is what the defense will be and it may win the day. In a way I hope they hang the guy but only because we all pay when these insurrectionists burn cities down ($13 BILLION just in insurance claims, last summer alone) and I don't like paying that bill in everything I buy, even if an innocent cop goes to prison. OTOH the justice part of me expects he ends up innocent or with a hung jury on all but the involuntary homicide charge. Let's try this one more time. The dead man was on the ground, handcuffed, and with four cops controlling him, and the killer cop was on his neck for nine minutes before he died. That is what mattered. And when the paramedic offered to take care of the guy before he died, the cop refused to let him do so. It was murder by cop.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *


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On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 08:03:02 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 4/2/21 12:24 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 08:16:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/31/21 11:39 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:29:14 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...anyone think he's going to "walk"? If so, why?

I think he gets acquitted or hangs the jury on the top 2 counts. They
may get the manslaughter charge to stick.
"(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an
unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or
great bodily harm to another".

I doubt that will keep the cities from burning tho.

The case that Floyd had a potentially lethal dose of crank and
fentanyl in his system along with his history of fighting with the
cops and preexisting medical issues may sway at least one juror,
no matter what.
We still haven't seen the other tape the defense got in of just what a
sweetheart Floyd was when the cops tried to arrest him before.
There may have been more going on here that we have been told.

I really wish we would make these cases with more deserving victims
like Breonna Taylor and not a thug like George Floyd.

The cops kill lots of far more innocent victims than this prick.


The videos show that just before the cop killed him, Floyd was on the
ground and handcuffed, and there were four cops right there. There was
no reason for Chauvin to murder him.


If Floyd had just agreed to get up and get in the ****ing car this
would have been over before it started. Why do you always support
thugs fighting with the cops?

The ME report is pretty shaky about the "Murder" when the cause of
death was a heart attack, there was no trauma and no signs of
asphyxiation. There was also a fatal dose of fentanyl in his system
and indications of crystal meth.
The ME has stated that in any other circumstance, he would have ruled
this an OD, simply based on the evidence.
Political pressure had him calling it a homicide. That is what the
defense will be and it may win the day.

In a way I hope they hang the guy but only because we all pay when
these insurrectionists burn cities down ($13 BILLION just in insurance
claims, last summer alone) and I don't like paying that bill in
everything I buy, even if an innocent cop goes to prison.
OTOH the justice part of me expects he ends up innocent or with a hung
jury on all but the involuntary homicide charge.




Let's try this one more time. The dead man was on the ground,
handcuffed, and with four cops controlling him, and the killer cop was
on his neck for nine minutes before he died. That is what mattered. And
when the paramedic offered to take care of the guy before he died, the
cop refused to let him do so. It was murder by cop.


Floyd could have ended that at any time by saying
"I give up, I will get in the car".



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