Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote:

China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not
Nigeria.

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Agreed that China is a long term external threat.

Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and
intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous
precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be
prosecuted to discourage future attempts.

No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility.
He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people
in this country to keep him in check.

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Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least
for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the
Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now
have large sections of the population who believe that the election
process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population
that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump
himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political
landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other
opportunistic misfits that may follow.


Maybe Trump actually did some good with his cockamamie theories. Maybe we
will get better control of our elections. Maybe will stop the dead of
Chicago rising each Election Day. Maybe will in California won’t get
voters bussed from the citizenship ceremony to the polls to vote.
Representative Sanchez did that a few years ago. Legally they could not
register until becoming citizens. Maybe will get a better handle on the
voting machines. I think Florida in he panhandle had the best system.
Paper ballot, you ran through a scanner that told you if it was properly
filled out. No duplicates, warned if missing a section, and gave a paper
trail. Maybe require ID. And don’t tell me it is racist. The poor
require ID for welfare medical visits, etc.

On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:19:18 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:13:01 -0500, John wrote:

China is a much bigger threat to Democracy than Trump would ever be. This is not
Nigeria.

===

Agreed that China is a long term external threat.

Trying to overturn a valid election with bogus claims, threats and
intimidation is a very real internal threat. It also sets a dangerous
precedent for the future. Hopefully some of the perpetrators will be
prosecuted to discourage future attempts.

No, Wayne, it is not an internal threat. It is an exercise in stupid futility.
He, like Harry, has a narcissistic disorder. But, there are enough good people
in this country to keep him in check.

===

Let's hope that proves to be correct, and it probably will, at least
for now. A lot of damage has been done however, especially to the
Republican party which has become highly fractionalized. We also now
have large sections of the population who believe that the election
process is rigged and invalid, and large sections of the population
that believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories. With any luck Trump
himself will fade into obscurity but he has changed the political
landscape for the forseeable future and created a roadmap for other
opportunistic misfits that may follow.


Maybe Trump actually did some good with his cockamamie theories. Maybe we
will get better control of our elections. Maybe will stop the dead of
Chicago rising each Election Day. Maybe will in California won’t get
voters bussed from the citizenship ceremony to the polls to vote.
Representative Sanchez did that a few years ago. Legally they could not
register until becoming citizens. Maybe will get a better handle on the
voting machines. I think Florida in he panhandle had the best system.
Paper ballot, you ran through a scanner that told you if it was properly
filled out. No duplicates, warned if missing a section, and gave a paper
trail. Maybe require ID. And don’t tell me it is racist. The poor
require ID for welfare medical visits, etc.

Harry wants those who've been innoculated for Covid to carry a card. But asking
them to carry voting ID is racist.
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Freedom Isn't Free!

On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:19:18 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

I think Florida in he panhandle had the best system.
Paper ballot, you ran through a scanner that told you if it was properly
filled out. No duplicates, warned if missing a section, and gave a paper
trail.

All of Florida has been doing that since 2004 I believe. I know all of
SW Fla does.
We **** canned the electronic machines here after the 2002 mid term
election. (only used once) It was another government boondoggle that
cost the counties millions.