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Wayne B December 28th 20 09:17 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
The NY Post is New York City's most conservative newspaper and a
staunch supporter of Donald Trump. They are owned by Rupert Murdoch's
News Corp and seldom have anything but praise for all things
Republican. In a stinging rebuke to Trump's post-election theatrics
the Post laid it all on the line with this concluding paragraph:

"If you insist on spending your final days in office threatening to
burn it all down, that will be how you are remembered. Not as a
revolutionary, but as the anarchist holding the match."

The entire article is he

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/?fbclid=IwAR3er7rw4CZfM6kmwa4eIlHvjdG6EJABJcSlNytU YE1d3gVBgld_hV6mn0Q

John[_6_] December 29th 20 12:13 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 16:17:01 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

The NY Post is New York City's most conservative newspaper and a
staunch supporter of Donald Trump. They are owned by Rupert Murdoch's
News Corp and seldom have anything but praise for all things
Republican. In a stinging rebuke to Trump's post-election theatrics
the Post laid it all on the line with this concluding paragraph:

"If you insist on spending your final days in office threatening to
burn it all down, that will be how you are remembered. Not as a
revolutionary, but as the anarchist holding the match."

The entire article is he

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/?fbclid=IwAR3er7rw4CZfM6kmwa4eIlHvjdG6EJABJcSlNytU YE1d3gVBgld_hV6mn0Q


That was a reasonable article. Start at 0:56

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jm3Tq_q4yU
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

Wayne B December 29th 20 12:47 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:13:53 -0500, John wrote:

On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 16:17:01 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

The NY Post is New York City's most conservative newspaper and a
staunch supporter of Donald Trump. They are owned by Rupert Murdoch's
News Corp and seldom have anything but praise for all things
Republican. In a stinging rebuke to Trump's post-election theatrics
the Post laid it all on the line with this concluding paragraph:

"If you insist on spending your final days in office threatening to
burn it all down, that will be how you are remembered. Not as a
revolutionary, but as the anarchist holding the match."

The entire article is he

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/?fbclid=IwAR3er7rw4CZfM6kmwa4eIlHvjdG6EJABJcSlNytU YE1d3gVBgld_hV6mn0Q


That was a reasonable article. Start at 0:56

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jm3Tq_q4yU


===

:-)



[email protected] December 29th 20 01:45 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 16:17:01 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

The NY Post is New York City's most conservative newspaper and a
staunch supporter of Donald Trump. They are owned by Rupert Murdoch's
News Corp and seldom have anything but praise for all things
Republican. In a stinging rebuke to Trump's post-election theatrics
the Post laid it all on the line with this concluding paragraph:

"If you insist on spending your final days in office threatening to
burn it all down, that will be how you are remembered. Not as a
revolutionary, but as the anarchist holding the match."

The entire article is he

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/?fbclid=IwAR3er7rw4CZfM6kmwa4eIlHvjdG6EJABJcSlNytU YE1d3gVBgld_hV6mn0Q


The ship is sinking, the rats will be jumping overboard.

Trump may end up getting the last laugh if the Senate passes HR9051
and sticks Biden with a $300,000,000,000+ bill for the extra covid
checks.

The two democrat candidates in Georgia are already running ads saying
if you don't get the 2 grand it is the Senate GOP member's fault.

marika December 29th 20 02:13 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 3:17:09 PM UTC-6, Wayne B wrote:
The NY Post is New York City's most conservative newspaper and a
staunch supporter of Donald Trump. They are owned by Rupert Murdoch's
News Corp and seldom have anything but praise for all things
Republican. In a stinging rebuke to Trump's post-election theatrics
the Post laid it all on the line with this concluding paragraph:

"If you insist on spending your final days in office threatening to
burn it all down, that will be how you are remembered. Not as a
revolutionary, but as the anarchist holding the match."

The entire article is he

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/?fbclid=IwAR3er7rw4CZfM6kmwa4eIlHvjdG6EJABJcSlNytU YE1d3gVBgld_hV6mn0Q


They had a really cute article last month about a baby beaver who lost his parents

A skilled wildlife rehabilitation specialist rescued him and is raising him

New york post article says he would not even get into the water til she got in and showed him

He is addicted to her plunger and keeps stealing it to make dams in the living room

they did not cover the political affiliation of the beaver or the rehab lady

However, this article is at least nominally related to and on topic for rec.boats

mk5000

“Count your blessings, Share your blessings
Get Free Curb-side pickup or ship to your house!
Chicken! Lemon! Artichokes!
As you know, many people are struggling”--Jessica Salfia


Wayne B December 29th 20 04:44 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:13:08 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

they did not cover the political affiliation of the beaver or the rehab lady

However, this article is at least nominally related to and on topic for rec.boats


===

Heh, you're new here aren't you. What kind of boats or boating are
you interested in?

marika December 29th 20 09:42 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 10:44:11 PM UTC-6, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:13:08 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

they did not cover the political affiliation of the beaver or the rehab lady

However, this article is at least nominally related to and on topic for rec.boats

===

Heh, you're new here aren't you. What kind of boats or boating are
you interested in?


probably not new
probably posted around ten years ago when I lived in DC

My medium term goal is to move to the gulf coast

Looked at a few places with docks or access to marina

Covid sort of knocked out all those plans

mk5000

Despite the fact that the crime scene photos obtained by Judicial Watch clearly revealed a serial number that would show that the AK-47 used in the commission of the crime was a Fast and Furious weapon, the City of Phoenix and Department of Justice failed to turn over the incriminating photos to Congress, despite longstanding requests for such information. --judicial watch




[email protected] December 30th 20 02:00 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 13:42:34 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 10:44:11 PM UTC-6, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:13:08 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

they did not cover the political affiliation of the beaver or the rehab lady

However, this article is at least nominally related to and on topic for rec.boats

===

Heh, you're new here aren't you. What kind of boats or boating are
you interested in?


probably not new
probably posted around ten years ago when I lived in DC

My medium term goal is to move to the gulf coast

Looked at a few places with docks or access to marina

Covid sort of knocked out all those plans

mk5000

Despite the fact that the crime scene photos obtained by Judicial Watch clearly revealed a serial number that would show that the AK-47 used in the commission of the crime was a Fast and Furious weapon, the City of Phoenix and Department of Justice failed to turn over the incriminating photos to Congress, despite longstanding requests for such information. --judicial watch


You sound like you would be happier on the SE coast. Those are your
kind of people.


marika December 31st 20 12:00 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 13:42:34 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 10:44:11 PM UTC-6, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:13:08 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

they did not cover the political affiliation of the beaver or the rehab lady

However, this article is at least nominally related to and on topic for rec.boats
===

Heh, you're new here aren't you. What kind of boats or boating are
you interested in?


probably not new
probably posted around ten years ago when I lived in DC

My medium term goal is to move to the gulf coast

Looked at a few places with docks or access to marina

Covid sort of knocked out all those plans

mk5000

Despite the fact that the crime scene photos obtained by Judicial Watch clearly revealed a serial number that would show that the AK-47 used in the commission of the crime was a Fast and Furious weapon, the City of Phoenix and Department of Justice failed to turn over the incriminating photos to Congress, despite longstanding requests for such information. --judicial watch


You sound like you would be happier on the SE coast. Those are your
kind of people.


Not sure what you mean

I live in Alabama and I love it here.

I am not too far away from the Gulf Coast but want to live on the coast, not as far away as I am now.

mk6000

I tell her
Your God is a contradiction
He is confused by his own standards
And for that
he has no room in my heart--My God
By Jacoby Collins, 17, St. Louis



[email protected] December 31st 20 05:11 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:00:13 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 13:42:34 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 10:44:11 PM UTC-6, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:13:08 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

they did not cover the political affiliation of the beaver or the rehab lady

However, this article is at least nominally related to and on topic for rec.boats
===

Heh, you're new here aren't you. What kind of boats or boating are
you interested in?

probably not new
probably posted around ten years ago when I lived in DC

My medium term goal is to move to the gulf coast

Looked at a few places with docks or access to marina

Covid sort of knocked out all those plans

mk5000

Despite the fact that the crime scene photos obtained by Judicial Watch clearly revealed a serial number that would show that the AK-47 used in the commission of the crime was a Fast and Furious weapon, the City of Phoenix and Department of Justice failed to turn over the incriminating photos to Congress, despite longstanding requests for such information. --judicial watch


You sound like you would be happier on the SE coast. Those are your
kind of people.


Not sure what you mean

I live in Alabama and I love it here.

I am not too far away from the Gulf Coast but want to live on the coast, not as far away as I am now.

OK sorry, my bad.
It depends on what you like. Are you a beach guy, a canal guy or just
driving distance to a marina or a dry stack. It's only money

marika December 31st 20 06:26 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 11:11:42 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:00:13 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 13:42:34 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 10:44:11 PM UTC-6, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:13:08 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

they did not cover the political affiliation of the beaver or the rehab lady

However, this article is at least nominally related to and on topic for rec.boats
===

Heh, you're new here aren't you. What kind of boats or boating are
you interested in?

probably not new
probably posted around ten years ago when I lived in DC

My medium term goal is to move to the gulf coast

Looked at a few places with docks or access to marina

Covid sort of knocked out all those plans

mk5000

Despite the fact that the crime scene photos obtained by Judicial Watch clearly revealed a serial number that would show that the AK-47 used in the commission of the crime was a Fast and Furious weapon, the City of Phoenix and Department of Justice failed to turn over the incriminating photos to Congress, despite longstanding requests for such information. --judicial watch


You sound like you would be happier on the SE coast. Those are your
kind of people.


Not sure what you mean

I live in Alabama and I love it here.

I am not too far away from the Gulf Coast but want to live on the coast, not as far away as I am now.

OK sorry, my bad.
It depends on what you like. Are you a beach guy, a canal guy or just
driving distance to a marina or a dry stack. It's only money


I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

mk5000

His actions are very deliberate, no matter how tired he is. He is determined to talk to his friend. His next step is to place his hoe “Blade-end up” in the hole he’s digging. Once a reader gets to the end of this piece its clear that Frost is conveying the importance of friendship.--poemanalysis dot com on Robert Frost poem A Time to Talk


Wayne B December 31st 20 06:50 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle


===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/

Bill[_12_] December 31st 20 09:02 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle


===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.


[email protected] December 31st 20 09:48 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 13:50:23 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle


===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/



Yup it gets back to "it's only money". There are nice houses in Port
Royal if you hit that Mega Millions or Power Ball this week.

A pre FIRM house on the river here (the Heights) will go $600k and
up. If it is above FEMA add $200k to that. You save about $100k on a
canal.
PGI is probably the cheapest but you need to bring your own money.
Employment up there is tough. A lot also depends on how long you want
to idle before you can go. That is why our neighborhood is nice. If
you are on the west side you have a short canal, then it is "Safe
Normal Operation". I have a little more idling in the river, about
1000 yards and I am as far east as it gets in our neighborhood.

Wayne B December 31st 20 09:59 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle


===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.


===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.

Bill[_12_] December 31st 20 11:44 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.


===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450’ house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000’ 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.


[email protected] January 1st 21 01:32 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.


===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450’ house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000’ 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.


That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.

marika January 1st 21 01:36 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:50:28 PM UTC-6, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/



thank you!


Bill[_12_] January 1st 21 01:40 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.

===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450’ house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000’ 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.


That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.


I don’t do well in high humidity.


marika January 1st 21 01:42 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 3:49:25 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 13:50:23 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle


===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/

Yup it gets back to "it's only money". There are nice houses in Port
Royal if you hit that Mega Millions or Power Ball this week.

A pre FIRM house on the river here (the Heights) will go $600k and
up. If it is above FEMA add $200k to that. You save about $100k on a
canal.
PGI is probably the cheapest but you need to bring your own money.
Employment up there is tough. A lot also depends on how long you want
to idle before you can go. That is why our neighborhood is nice. If
you are on the west side you have a short canal, then it is "Safe
Normal Operation". I have a little more idling in the river, about
1000 yards and I am as far east as it gets in our neighborhood.


That is all very good information. I assume Port Royal is South Carolina. (not Jamaica)

Thank you

mk5000

character
but flutter and flaunt
sheer rags—succumbing without
emotion--To Elsie. Wm Carlos Wms

[email protected] January 1st 21 02:39 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:40:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.

===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450’ house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000’ 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.


That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.


I don’t do well in high humidity.


How do you feel about snow ;) ?

[email protected] January 1st 21 02:40 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:42:00 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 3:49:25 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 13:50:23 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/

Yup it gets back to "it's only money". There are nice houses in Port
Royal if you hit that Mega Millions or Power Ball this week.

A pre FIRM house on the river here (the Heights) will go $600k and
up. If it is above FEMA add $200k to that. You save about $100k on a
canal.
PGI is probably the cheapest but you need to bring your own money.
Employment up there is tough. A lot also depends on how long you want
to idle before you can go. That is why our neighborhood is nice. If
you are on the west side you have a short canal, then it is "Safe
Normal Operation". I have a little more idling in the river, about
1000 yards and I am as far east as it gets in our neighborhood.


That is all very good information. I assume Port Royal is South Carolina. (not Jamaica)

Thank you

Naples Fl.


Wayne B January 1st 21 04:26 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:40:19 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:42:00 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 3:49:25 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 13:50:23 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/
Yup it gets back to "it's only money". There are nice houses in Port
Royal if you hit that Mega Millions or Power Ball this week.

A pre FIRM house on the river here (the Heights) will go $600k and
up. If it is above FEMA add $200k to that. You save about $100k on a
canal.
PGI is probably the cheapest but you need to bring your own money.
Employment up there is tough. A lot also depends on how long you want
to idle before you can go. That is why our neighborhood is nice. If
you are on the west side you have a short canal, then it is "Safe
Normal Operation". I have a little more idling in the river, about
1000 yards and I am as far east as it gets in our neighborhood.


That is all very good information. I assume Port Royal is South Carolina. (not Jamaica)

Thank you

Naples Fl.


===

Prices for Port Royal waterfront start at about 5 to 10M and go up
from there.

Bill[_12_] January 1st 21 06:31 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:40:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.

===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450’ house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000’ 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.

That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.


I don’t do well in high humidity.


How do you feel about snow ;) ?


Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.


Justan January 1st 21 03:29 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:40:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.

===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450’ house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000’ 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.

That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.


I don’t do well in high humidity.


How do you feel about snow ;) ?


Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.


Bill[_12_] January 1st 21 06:08 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
Justan " wrote:
On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:40:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.

===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450’ house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000’ 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.

That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.


I don’t do well in high humidity.

How do you feel about snow ;) ?


Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.


John[_6_] January 1st 21 06:26 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Justan " wrote:
On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:40:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.

===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450 house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.

That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.


I dont do well in high humidity.

How do you feel about snow ;) ?


Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000 and we are at 420 elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11 blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.


I spent several years on my Grandfather's farm in Minnesota. Had to climb over
the porch roof with a shovel to get us out of the house a couple times. Lotsa
snow in Minnesota!
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

[email protected] January 1st 21 07:51 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Justan " wrote:
On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:40:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.

===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450’ house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000’ 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.

That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.


I don’t do well in high humidity.

How do you feel about snow ;) ?


Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.


I got snowed on in October in Endicott. It was just my welcome to New
York and a reason why I wanted that assignment cut short. I went home
for Christmas and didn't go back.
I like skiing but I want to ski and then come home.

Bill[_12_] January 1st 21 08:01 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Justan " wrote:
On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:40:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.

===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450’ house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000’ 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.

That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.


I don’t do well in high humidity.

How do you feel about snow ;) ?


Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.


I got snowed on in October in Endicott. It was just my welcome to New
York and a reason why I wanted that assignment cut short. I went home
for Christmas and didn't go back.
I like skiing but I want to ski and then come home.


That is a nice thing about here. Mountain skiing is only 2.5 hours away.
My parents are from Scott’s Bluff area of Nebraska. Mom grew up on a farm
a mile from the Wyoming border near Henry, NE and tells about -40 degrees.
Glad they moved here before I was born.


Justan January 1st 21 08:24 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On 1/1/21 1:26 PM, John wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Justan " wrote:
On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:40:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.

===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450’ house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000’ 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.

That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.


I don’t do well in high humidity.

How do you feel about snow ;) ?


Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.


I spent several years on my Grandfather's farm in Minnesota. Had to climb over
the porch roof with a shovel to get us out of the house a couple times. Lotsa
snow in Minnesota!
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Trivia tidbit. Most of the outdoor scenes in the movie Fargo were filmed in
Minnesota.


John[_6_] January 1st 21 09:56 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 20:24:04 -0000 (UTC), Justan " wrote:

On 1/1/21 1:26 PM, John wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Justan " wrote:
On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:40:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

===

Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.

===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450? house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000? 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.

That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.


I don?t do well in high humidity.

How do you feel about snow ;) ?


Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000? and we are at 420? elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11? blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504?. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.


I spent several years on my Grandfather's farm in Minnesota. Had to climb over
the porch roof with a shovel to get us out of the house a couple times. Lotsa
snow in Minnesota!
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Trivia tidbit. Most of the outdoor scenes in the movie Fargo were filmed in
Minnesota.


I spent a winter in Minot surveying for the Minuteman missile sites. Snow didn't
spend much time piling up there 'cause the winds would blow it away. The only
nice thing about Minot were the girls. Most of the boys left town as soon as
they could!
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

Wayne B January 1st 21 11:05 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000 and we are at 420 elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11 blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.


===

You haven't really experienced winter snow until you've spent time in
the lake-effect winter snow belts south of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.
Lake Ontario is the worst of the two because it doesn't freeze all the
way across like Erie does. Once Erie freezes over the winds no longer
pick up moisture as they blow south from Canada.

My old home town is 10 miles south of central Lake Ontario and gets
200 to 300 inches of snow a year, including at least a couple of major
blizzards. The snow banks along the road sometimes get so high that
they bring in arctic snow blowers to cut them back. People put flags
on their car radio antennas so they can be seen over the snow banks as
they approach intersections. The county puts tall wooden stakes on
guard rails so the plows don't accidently hit them.

Keyser Söze[_3_] January 2nd 21 01:52 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On 1/1/21 6:05 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.


===

You haven't really experienced winter snow until you've spent time in
the lake-effect winter snow belts south of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.
Lake Ontario is the worst of the two because it doesn't freeze all the
way across like Erie does. Once Erie freezes over the winds no longer
pick up moisture as they blow south from Canada.

My old home town is 10 miles south of central Lake Ontario and gets
200 to 300 inches of snow a year, including at least a couple of major
blizzards. The snow banks along the road sometimes get so high that
they bring in arctic snow blowers to cut them back. People put flags
on their car radio antennas so they can be seen over the snow banks as
they approach intersections. The county puts tall wooden stakes on
guard rails so the plows don't accidently hit them.



Do the him insurance companies contract with individuals to sweep the
snow off roofs so they don't collapse? I didn't see that in Albany when
I lived there, but I did see it being done in Thunder Bay, Ontario.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thund...oofs-1.5045569

The day we landed there it was 15-20 degrees below zero, Fahrenheit. I
was told if you peed off the top of the boarding ladder, the pee would
freeze by the time it hit the ground but sadly I didn't get a chance to
test that.



--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

Bill[_12_] January 2nd 21 02:01 AM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.


===

You haven't really experienced winter snow until you've spent time in
the lake-effect winter snow belts south of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.
Lake Ontario is the worst of the two because it doesn't freeze all the
way across like Erie does. Once Erie freezes over the winds no longer
pick up moisture as they blow south from Canada.

My old home town is 10 miles south of central Lake Ontario and gets
200 to 300 inches of snow a year, including at least a couple of major
blizzards. The snow banks along the road sometimes get so high that
they bring in arctic snow blowers to cut them back. People put flags
on their car radio antennas so they can be seen over the snow banks as
they approach intersections. The county puts tall wooden stakes on
guard rails so the plows don't accidently hit them.


Actually we get much more than that in parts of the Sierras some years.
One year, my buddy who lived on the West Shore, said they had to use the
rotary blowers as the snow was to deep along the roads to use graders. I
think that year they recorded 110’ at Donner Pass. I worked with a guy who
grew up in the 1930-40’s on the Tahoe west Shore. His dad was a park
ranger. He said one year they lost phone and his dad started from their
place and another guy started from Tahoe City and they had to dig down to
the phone lines as the snow was deeper than the power poles looking for the
break. I think God did not like the Donner Party. Was historically one of
the heaviest snowfalls in history. They were snowed in on October 30. We
hope to usually have enough snow to ski by Thanksgiving.


Justan January 2nd 21 02:17 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On 1/1/21 9:01 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.


===

You haven't really experienced winter snow until you've spent time in
the lake-effect winter snow belts south of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.
Lake Ontario is the worst of the two because it doesn't freeze all the
way across like Erie does. Once Erie freezes over the winds no longer
pick up moisture as they blow south from Canada.

My old home town is 10 miles south of central Lake Ontario and gets
200 to 300 inches of snow a year, including at least a couple of major
blizzards. The snow banks along the road sometimes get so high that
they bring in arctic snow blowers to cut them back. People put flags
on their car radio antennas so they can be seen over the snow banks as
they approach intersections. The county puts tall wooden stakes on
guard rails so the plows don't accidently hit them.


Actually we get much more than that in parts of the Sierras some years.
One year, my buddy who lived on the West Shore, said they had to use the
rotary blowers as the snow was to deep along the roads to use graders. I
think that year they recorded 110’ at Donner Pass. I worked with a guy who
grew up in the 1930-40’s on the Tahoe west Shore. His dad was a park
ranger. He said one year they lost phone and his dad started from their
place and another guy started from Tahoe City and they had to dig down to
the phone lines as the snow was deeper than the power poles looking for the
break. I think God did not like the Donner Party. Was historically one of
the heaviest snowfalls in history. They were snowed in on October 30. We
hope to usually have enough snow to ski by Thanksgiving.


On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.


Wayne B January 2nd 21 02:21 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 14:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.


===

One of my all time favorite roads.

Justan January 2nd 21 04:31 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On 1/2/21 9:21 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 14:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.


===

One of my all time favorite roads.

Mine too.
And there's a treasure at both ends.

Wayne B January 2nd 21 04:52 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 16:31:18 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On 1/2/21 9:21 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 14:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.


===

One of my all time favorite roads.

Mine too.
And there's a treasure at both ends.


===

Did you do it in the RV?

Bill[_12_] January 2nd 21 05:05 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
Justan " wrote:
On 1/1/21 9:01 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.

===

You haven't really experienced winter snow until you've spent time in
the lake-effect winter snow belts south of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.
Lake Ontario is the worst of the two because it doesn't freeze all the
way across like Erie does. Once Erie freezes over the winds no longer
pick up moisture as they blow south from Canada.

My old home town is 10 miles south of central Lake Ontario and gets
200 to 300 inches of snow a year, including at least a couple of major
blizzards. The snow banks along the road sometimes get so high that
they bring in arctic snow blowers to cut them back. People put flags
on their car radio antennas so they can be seen over the snow banks as
they approach intersections. The county puts tall wooden stakes on
guard rails so the plows don't accidently hit them.


Actually we get much more than that in parts of the Sierras some years.
One year, my buddy who lived on the West Shore, said they had to use the
rotary blowers as the snow was to deep along the roads to use graders. I
think that year they recorded 110’ at Donner Pass. I worked with a guy who
grew up in the 1930-40’s on the Tahoe west Shore. His dad was a park
ranger. He said one year they lost phone and his dad started from their
place and another guy started from Tahoe City and they had to dig down to
the phone lines as the snow was deeper than the power poles looking for the
break. I think God did not like the Donner Party. Was historically one of
the heaviest snowfalls in history. They were snowed in on October 30. We
hope to usually have enough snow to ski by Thanksgiving.


On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.



Years ago, I had a sabbatical and took 6 weeks to tour the country. Snowed
on us end of June on the continental divide on our way to Yellowstone.


Justan January 2nd 21 05:42 PM

Words of Wisdom From an Unexpected Place
 
On 1/2/21 11:52 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 16:31:18 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On 1/2/21 9:21 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 14:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.

===

One of my all time favorite roads.

Mine too.
And there's a treasure at both ends.


===

Did you do it in the RV?


Hell no.


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