On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 20:09:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 07:05:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:59:18 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
Signatures needed on petition to evaluate and stabilize the Arecibo
radio telescope: "We urge emergency action to have the Army Corps of
Engineers or another agency evaluate the telescope structure and
search for a safe way to stabilize it," reads the petition to the
White House, which had more than 28,000 signatures as of Friday.
Space.com notes if the petition gets 100,000 signees by Dec. 21, the
White House has to respond within two months. Jenniffer Gonzalez,
Puerto Rico's resident commissioner, is also taking action, sending a
letter to Congress last week to request funds to make repairs. The NSF
maintains the structure is beyond safe renovation. "We understand the
risk of going there and trying to fix it," Wilbert Ruperto-Hernandez,
one of the organizers of the "Save the Arecibo Observatory" campaign,
tells Space.com. "But not many people think that it should be an
excuse to just demolish it."

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-emergency-action-evaluate-and-stabilize-arecibo-radio-telescope

And just like that, now it's gone...

"SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico?A huge, already damaged radio telescope in Puerto
Rico that has played a key role in astronomical discoveries for more
than half a century completely collapsed on Tuesday.

The telescope's 900-ton receiver platform fell onto the reflector dish
more than 400 feet below."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/huge-loss-huge-puerto-rico-radio-telescope-arecibo-collapses-following-n1249515

I reckon that solves that problem. Glad no one was hurt.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


With the lack of maintenance, I hope whomever was in charge does not get
another management position.

===

I agree but it's possible there was a funding issue. NSF facilities
are constantly struggling for budget dollars. There are newer radio
telescopes that have come online since Arecibo was built and they
might have had a higher funding priority.

On Tue, 01 Dec 2020 17:18:08 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 20:09:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 07:05:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:59:18 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
Signatures needed on petition to evaluate and stabilize the Arecibo
radio telescope: "We urge emergency action to have the Army Corps of
Engineers or another agency evaluate the telescope structure and
search for a safe way to stabilize it," reads the petition to the
White House, which had more than 28,000 signatures as of Friday.
Space.com notes if the petition gets 100,000 signees by Dec. 21, the
White House has to respond within two months. Jenniffer Gonzalez,
Puerto Rico's resident commissioner, is also taking action, sending a
letter to Congress last week to request funds to make repairs. The NSF
maintains the structure is beyond safe renovation. "We understand the
risk of going there and trying to fix it," Wilbert Ruperto-Hernandez,
one of the organizers of the "Save the Arecibo Observatory" campaign,
tells Space.com. "But not many people think that it should be an
excuse to just demolish it."

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-emergency-action-evaluate-and-stabilize-arecibo-radio-telescope

And just like that, now it's gone...

"SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico?A huge, already damaged radio telescope in Puerto
Rico that has played a key role in astronomical discoveries for more
than half a century completely collapsed on Tuesday.

The telescope's 900-ton receiver platform fell onto the reflector dish
more than 400 feet below."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/huge-loss-huge-puerto-rico-radio-telescope-arecibo-collapses-following-n1249515

I reckon that solves that problem. Glad no one was hurt.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


With the lack of maintenance, I hope whomever was in charge does not get
another management position.

===

I agree but it's possible there was a funding issue. NSF facilities
are constantly struggling for budget dollars. There are newer radio
telescopes that have come online since Arecibo was built and they
might have had a higher funding priority.

There are more capable receivers but Arecibo could also transmit.
I agree the best chance will be if some rich people decide to take
over the project. If they rebuild this with current technology they
would really have something cool.

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 6:32:18 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Dec 2020 17:18:08 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 20:09:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 07:05:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:59:18 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
Signatures needed on petition to evaluate and stabilize the Arecibo
radio telescope: "We urge emergency action to have the Army Corps of
Engineers or another agency evaluate the telescope structure and
search for a safe way to stabilize it," reads the petition to the
White House, which had more than 28,000 signatures as of Friday.
Space.com notes if the petition gets 100,000 signees by Dec. 21, the
White House has to respond within two months. Jenniffer Gonzalez,
Puerto Rico's resident commissioner, is also taking action, sending a
letter to Congress last week to request funds to make repairs. The NSF
maintains the structure is beyond safe renovation. "We understand the
risk of going there and trying to fix it," Wilbert Ruperto-Hernandez,
one of the organizers of the "Save the Arecibo Observatory" campaign,
tells Space.com. "But not many people think that it should be an
excuse to just demolish it."

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-emergency-action-evaluate-and-stabilize-arecibo-radio-telescope

And just like that, now it's gone...

"SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico?A huge, already damaged radio telescope in Puerto
Rico that has played a key role in astronomical discoveries for more
than half a century completely collapsed on Tuesday.

The telescope's 900-ton receiver platform fell onto the reflector dish
more than 400 feet below."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/huge-loss-huge-puerto-rico-radio-telescope-arecibo-collapses-following-n1249515

I reckon that solves that problem. Glad no one was hurt.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


With the lack of maintenance, I hope whomever was in charge does not get
another management position.

===

I agree but it's possible there was a funding issue. NSF facilities
are constantly struggling for budget dollars. There are newer radio
telescopes that have come online since Arecibo was built and they
might have had a higher funding priority.
There are more capable receivers but Arecibo could also transmit.
I agree the best chance will be if some rich people decide to take
over the project. If they rebuild this with current technology they
would really have something cool.

Soros and the Hollywood elite should fund it. That way they'd be doing something worthwhile with their money instead of funding the liberal idiot politicians that they do.

In article ,
says...
I agree but it's possible there was a funding issue. NSF facilities
are constantly struggling for budget dollars. There are newer radio
telescopes that have come online since Arecibo was built and they
might have had a higher funding priority.
There are more capable receivers but Arecibo could also transmit.
I agree the best chance will be if some rich people decide to take
over the project. If they rebuild this with current technology they
would really have something cool.

Soros and the Hollywood elite should fund it. That way they'd be doing something worthwhile with their money instead of funding the liberal idiot politicians that they do.



Soros and the leftist elites won't get involved because there is no
destroying capitalism and buying of votes in it.

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 21:32:55 -0500, B wrote:

In article ,
says...
I agree but it's possible there was a funding issue. NSF facilities
are constantly struggling for budget dollars. There are newer radio
telescopes that have come online since Arecibo was built and they
might have had a higher funding priority.
There are more capable receivers but Arecibo could also transmit.
I agree the best chance will be if some rich people decide to take
over the project. If they rebuild this with current technology they
would really have something cool.

Soros and the Hollywood elite should fund it. That way they'd be doing something worthwhile with their money instead of funding the liberal idiot politicians that they do.



Soros and the leftist elites won't get involved because there is no
destroying capitalism and buying of votes in it.

I don't see any of those guys coming up with the money. Someone like
Musk or Gates might tho. You might even get Buffett interested.

Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 20:09:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 07:05:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:59:18 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
Signatures needed on petition to evaluate and stabilize the Arecibo
radio telescope: "We urge emergency action to have the Army Corps of
Engineers or another agency evaluate the telescope structure and
search for a safe way to stabilize it," reads the petition to the
White House, which had more than 28,000 signatures as of Friday.
Space.com notes if the petition gets 100,000 signees by Dec. 21, the
White House has to respond within two months. Jenniffer Gonzalez,
Puerto Rico's resident commissioner, is also taking action, sending a
letter to Congress last week to request funds to make repairs. The NSF
maintains the structure is beyond safe renovation. "We understand the
risk of going there and trying to fix it," Wilbert Ruperto-Hernandez,
one of the organizers of the "Save the Arecibo Observatory" campaign,
tells Space.com. "But not many people think that it should be an
excuse to just demolish it."

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-emergency-action-evaluate-and-stabilize-arecibo-radio-telescope

And just like that, now it's gone...

"SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico?A huge, already damaged radio telescope in Puerto
Rico that has played a key role in astronomical discoveries for more
than half a century completely collapsed on Tuesday.

The telescope's 900-ton receiver platform fell onto the reflector dish
more than 400 feet below."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/huge-loss-huge-puerto-rico-radio-telescope-arecibo-collapses-following-n1249515

I reckon that solves that problem. Glad no one was hurt.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


With the lack of maintenance, I hope whomever was in charge does not get
another management position.

===

I agree but it's possible there was a funding issue. NSF facilities
are constantly struggling for budget dollars. There are newer radio
telescopes that have come online since Arecibo was built and they
might have had a higher funding priority.


Still, cable maintenance should be close to numero uno.

On 12/1/20 11:41 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 20:09:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 07:05:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:59:18 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
Signatures needed on petition to evaluate and stabilize the Arecibo
radio telescope: "We urge emergency action to have the Army Corps of
Engineers or another agency evaluate the telescope structure and
search for a safe way to stabilize it," reads the petition to the
White House, which had more than 28,000 signatures as of Friday.
Space.com notes if the petition gets 100,000 signees by Dec. 21, the
White House has to respond within two months. Jenniffer Gonzalez,
Puerto Rico's resident commissioner, is also taking action, sending a
letter to Congress last week to request funds to make repairs. The NSF
maintains the structure is beyond safe renovation. "We understand the
risk of going there and trying to fix it," Wilbert Ruperto-Hernandez,
one of the organizers of the "Save the Arecibo Observatory" campaign,
tells Space.com. "But not many people think that it should be an
excuse to just demolish it."

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-emergency-action-evaluate-and-stabilize-arecibo-radio-telescope

And just like that, now it's gone...

"SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico?A huge, already damaged radio telescope in Puerto
Rico that has played a key role in astronomical discoveries for more
than half a century completely collapsed on Tuesday.

The telescope's 900-ton receiver platform fell onto the reflector dish
more than 400 feet below."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/huge-loss-huge-puerto-rico-radio-telescope-arecibo-collapses-following-n1249515

I reckon that solves that problem. Glad no one was hurt.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


With the lack of maintenance, I hope whomever was in charge does not get
another management position.

===

I agree but it's possible there was a funding issue. NSF facilities
are constantly struggling for budget dollars. There are newer radio
telescopes that have come online since Arecibo was built and they
might have had a higher funding priority.


Still, cable maintenance should be close to numero uno.


I wonder what the cost of a replacement telescope we need for the
advancement of science is in comparison to another aircraft carrier we
don't need. I read somewhere that the aircraft carrier named after Gerry
Ford cost about $13 billion.

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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/1/20 11:41 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 20:09:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 07:05:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:59:18 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
Signatures needed on petition to evaluate and stabilize the Arecibo
radio telescope: "We urge emergency action to have the Army Corps of
Engineers or another agency evaluate the telescope structure and
search for a safe way to stabilize it," reads the petition to the
White House, which had more than 28,000 signatures as of Friday.
Space.com notes if the petition gets 100,000 signees by Dec. 21, the
White House has to respond within two months. Jenniffer Gonzalez,
Puerto Rico's resident commissioner, is also taking action, sending a
letter to Congress last week to request funds to make repairs. The NSF
maintains the structure is beyond safe renovation. "We understand the
risk of going there and trying to fix it," Wilbert Ruperto-Hernandez,
one of the organizers of the "Save the Arecibo Observatory" campaign,
tells Space.com. "But not many people think that it should be an
excuse to just demolish it."

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-emergency-action-evaluate-and-stabilize-arecibo-radio-telescope

And just like that, now it's gone...

"SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico?A huge, already damaged radio telescope in Puerto
Rico that has played a key role in astronomical discoveries for more
than half a century completely collapsed on Tuesday.

The telescope's 900-ton receiver platform fell onto the reflector dish
more than 400 feet below."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/huge-loss-huge-puerto-rico-radio-telescope-arecibo-collapses-following-n1249515

I reckon that solves that problem. Glad no one was hurt.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


With the lack of maintenance, I hope whomever was in charge does not get
another management position.

===

I agree but it's possible there was a funding issue. NSF facilities
are constantly struggling for budget dollars. There are newer radio
telescopes that have come online since Arecibo was built and they
might have had a higher funding priority.


Still, cable maintenance should be close to numero uno.


I wonder what the cost of a replacement telescope we need for the
advancement of science is in comparison to another aircraft carrier we
don't need. I read somewhere that the aircraft carrier named after Gerry
Ford cost about $13 billion.


Apples and oranges.

On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 08:40:18 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/1/20 11:41 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 20:09:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 07:05:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:59:18 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
Signatures needed on petition to evaluate and stabilize the Arecibo
radio telescope: "We urge emergency action to have the Army Corps of
Engineers or another agency evaluate the telescope structure and
search for a safe way to stabilize it," reads the petition to the
White House, which had more than 28,000 signatures as of Friday.
Space.com notes if the petition gets 100,000 signees by Dec. 21, the
White House has to respond within two months. Jenniffer Gonzalez,
Puerto Rico's resident commissioner, is also taking action, sending a
letter to Congress last week to request funds to make repairs. The NSF
maintains the structure is beyond safe renovation. "We understand the
risk of going there and trying to fix it," Wilbert Ruperto-Hernandez,
one of the organizers of the "Save the Arecibo Observatory" campaign,
tells Space.com. "But not many people think that it should be an
excuse to just demolish it."

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-emergency-action-evaluate-and-stabilize-arecibo-radio-telescope

And just like that, now it's gone...

"SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico?A huge, already damaged radio telescope in Puerto
Rico that has played a key role in astronomical discoveries for more
than half a century completely collapsed on Tuesday.

The telescope's 900-ton receiver platform fell onto the reflector dish
more than 400 feet below."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/huge-loss-huge-puerto-rico-radio-telescope-arecibo-collapses-following-n1249515

I reckon that solves that problem. Glad no one was hurt.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


With the lack of maintenance, I hope whomever was in charge does not get
another management position.

===

I agree but it's possible there was a funding issue. NSF facilities
are constantly struggling for budget dollars. There are newer radio
telescopes that have come online since Arecibo was built and they
might have had a higher funding priority.


Still, cable maintenance should be close to numero uno.


I wonder what the cost of a replacement telescope we need for the
advancement of science is in comparison to another aircraft carrier we
don't need. I read somewhere that the aircraft carrier named after Gerry
Ford cost about $13 billion.

===

I'm all for spending money on science but aircraft carriers are
interesting from a strategic standpoint. They are like a little
island of US territory that can be moved anywhere you want. And think
of all those good union jobs involved in the construction and
maintenance. :-)

On 12/2/20 1:55 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 08:40:18 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/1/20 11:41 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 20:09:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 07:05:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:59:18 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
Signatures needed on petition to evaluate and stabilize the Arecibo
radio telescope: "We urge emergency action to have the Army Corps of
Engineers or another agency evaluate the telescope structure and
search for a safe way to stabilize it," reads the petition to the
White House, which had more than 28,000 signatures as of Friday.
Space.com notes if the petition gets 100,000 signees by Dec. 21, the
White House has to respond within two months. Jenniffer Gonzalez,
Puerto Rico's resident commissioner, is also taking action, sending a
letter to Congress last week to request funds to make repairs. The NSF
maintains the structure is beyond safe renovation. "We understand the
risk of going there and trying to fix it," Wilbert Ruperto-Hernandez,
one of the organizers of the "Save the Arecibo Observatory" campaign,
tells Space.com. "But not many people think that it should be an
excuse to just demolish it."

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-emergency-action-evaluate-and-stabilize-arecibo-radio-telescope

And just like that, now it's gone...

"SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico?A huge, already damaged radio telescope in Puerto
Rico that has played a key role in astronomical discoveries for more
than half a century completely collapsed on Tuesday.

The telescope's 900-ton receiver platform fell onto the reflector dish
more than 400 feet below."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/huge-loss-huge-puerto-rico-radio-telescope-arecibo-collapses-following-n1249515

I reckon that solves that problem. Glad no one was hurt.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


With the lack of maintenance, I hope whomever was in charge does not get
another management position.

===

I agree but it's possible there was a funding issue. NSF facilities
are constantly struggling for budget dollars. There are newer radio
telescopes that have come online since Arecibo was built and they
might have had a higher funding priority.


Still, cable maintenance should be close to numero uno.


I wonder what the cost of a replacement telescope we need for the
advancement of science is in comparison to another aircraft carrier we
don't need. I read somewhere that the aircraft carrier named after Gerry
Ford cost about $13 billion.

===

I'm all for spending money on science but aircraft carriers are
interesting from a strategic standpoint. They are like a little
island of US territory that can be moved anywhere you want. And think
of all those good union jobs involved in the construction and
maintenance. :-)


We have enough aircraft carriers. I appreciate the great jobs building
carriers provides, but the ironworkers, electricians, pipefitters, et
cetera, could be building components for bridges, hospitals, treatment
plants, power plants, AND a new super radio telescope.

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Oh, if you are in the Bozo Bin, it is because you are only here to
insult or your posts lack wit or you are deadly dull, or a combination.
In Just-AN-Asshole's case, it is all three.