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Keyser Söze[_3_] November 14th 20 12:37 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
....courtesy of CNN:

(CNN)Two judges in Pennsylvania on Friday tossed a half dozen court
cases the Trump campaign had brought to invalidate thousands of votes
around Philadelphia, where voters carried President-elect Joe Biden to a
clear win in the battleground state.

In total, the Trump campaign had sought to throw out almost 9,000
absentee ballots because their outer envelopes lack names, dates or
addresses or some combination of the three that voters could have filled
out.

In five related cases, Judge James Crumlish of Philadelphia County's
Court of Common Pleas said the Trump campaign couldn't invalidate 8,329
ballots it alleged were improper. The judge ruled those ballots should
be processed and counted.

In another case, the President's campaign sought for the Montgomery
County Board of Elections to throw out 592 mail-in ballots where voters
hadn't filled out their addresses on the outside envelopes. Those
ballots will be counted, the second judge, Richard Haaz of the
Montgomery County Court of Common Pleas, ruled on Friday.

Haaz found that state law didn't require voters to fill out the address
sections on the envelopes, and the instructions on the ballots didn't
tell voters they must fill them out.

"Voters should not be disenfranchised by reasonably relying upon voting
instructions provided by election officials," Haaz wrote.

The Trump campaign had said in court that it wasn't alleging voting
fraud in the cases -- just attempting to enforce the rules.
Though the ballots numbered in the thousands, they would not be enough
for Trump to overcome Biden's win in Pennsylvania, even if all were
Trump votes.

Also, Michigan judge rejects demand to block certification of Biden win
in Detroit and debunks fraud claims.

But...best of all, Rudy Guiliani is running Trump's campaign to
invalidate the election...perfect. I mean what could go wrong with
Bull****tin' Rudy in charge? :)


--
*Lock Trump Up!*

Bill[_12_] November 14th 20 04:41 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
...courtesy of CNN:

(CNN)Two judges in Pennsylvania on Friday tossed a half dozen court
cases the Trump campaign had brought to invalidate thousands of votes
around Philadelphia, where voters carried President-elect Joe Biden to a
clear win in the battleground state.

In total, the Trump campaign had sought to throw out almost 9,000
absentee ballots because their outer envelopes lack names, dates or
addresses or some combination of the three that voters could have filled
out.

In five related cases, Judge James Crumlish of Philadelphia County's
Court of Common Pleas said the Trump campaign couldn't invalidate 8,329
ballots it alleged were improper. The judge ruled those ballots should
be processed and counted.

In another case, the President's campaign sought for the Montgomery
County Board of Elections to throw out 592 mail-in ballots where voters
hadn't filled out their addresses on the outside envelopes. Those
ballots will be counted, the second judge, Richard Haaz of the
Montgomery County Court of Common Pleas, ruled on Friday.

Haaz found that state law didn't require voters to fill out the address
sections on the envelopes, and the instructions on the ballots didn't
tell voters they must fill them out.

"Voters should not be disenfranchised by reasonably relying upon voting
instructions provided by election officials," Haaz wrote.

The Trump campaign had said in court that it wasn't alleging voting
fraud in the cases -- just attempting to enforce the rules.
Though the ballots numbered in the thousands, they would not be enough
for Trump to overcome Biden's win in Pennsylvania, even if all were
Trump votes.

Also, Michigan judge rejects demand to block certification of Biden win
in Detroit and debunks fraud claims.

But...best of all, Rudy Guiliani is running Trump's campaign to
invalidate the election...perfect. I mean what could go wrong with
Bull****tin' Rudy in charge? :)



The error is not the fields COULD have been filled out, they MUST be filled
out to be valid. According to English majors, words have meaning.


Keyser Söze[_3_] November 14th 20 08:26 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/14/20 11:41 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...courtesy of CNN:

(CNN)Two judges in Pennsylvania on Friday tossed a half dozen court
cases the Trump campaign had brought to invalidate thousands of votes
around Philadelphia, where voters carried President-elect Joe Biden to a
clear win in the battleground state.

In total, the Trump campaign had sought to throw out almost 9,000
absentee ballots because their outer envelopes lack names, dates or
addresses or some combination of the three that voters could have filled
out.

In five related cases, Judge James Crumlish of Philadelphia County's
Court of Common Pleas said the Trump campaign couldn't invalidate 8,329
ballots it alleged were improper. The judge ruled those ballots should
be processed and counted.

In another case, the President's campaign sought for the Montgomery
County Board of Elections to throw out 592 mail-in ballots where voters
hadn't filled out their addresses on the outside envelopes. Those
ballots will be counted, the second judge, Richard Haaz of the
Montgomery County Court of Common Pleas, ruled on Friday.

Haaz found that state law didn't require voters to fill out the address
sections on the envelopes, and the instructions on the ballots didn't
tell voters they must fill them out.

"Voters should not be disenfranchised by reasonably relying upon voting
instructions provided by election officials," Haaz wrote.

The Trump campaign had said in court that it wasn't alleging voting
fraud in the cases -- just attempting to enforce the rules.
Though the ballots numbered in the thousands, they would not be enough
for Trump to overcome Biden's win in Pennsylvania, even if all were
Trump votes.

Also, Michigan judge rejects demand to block certification of Biden win
in Detroit and debunks fraud claims.

But...best of all, Rudy Guiliani is running Trump's campaign to
invalidate the election...perfect. I mean what could go wrong with
Bull****tin' Rudy in charge? :)



The error is not the fields COULD have been filled out, they MUST be filled
out to be valid. According to English majors, words have meaning.


Go argue with the judge, bilious.

--
*Lock Trump Up!*

Bill[_12_] November 14th 20 08:31 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/20 11:41 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...courtesy of CNN:

(CNN)Two judges in Pennsylvania on Friday tossed a half dozen court
cases the Trump campaign had brought to invalidate thousands of votes
around Philadelphia, where voters carried President-elect Joe Biden to a
clear win in the battleground state.

In total, the Trump campaign had sought to throw out almost 9,000
absentee ballots because their outer envelopes lack names, dates or
addresses or some combination of the three that voters could have filled
out.

In five related cases, Judge James Crumlish of Philadelphia County's
Court of Common Pleas said the Trump campaign couldn't invalidate 8,329
ballots it alleged were improper. The judge ruled those ballots should
be processed and counted.

In another case, the President's campaign sought for the Montgomery
County Board of Elections to throw out 592 mail-in ballots where voters
hadn't filled out their addresses on the outside envelopes. Those
ballots will be counted, the second judge, Richard Haaz of the
Montgomery County Court of Common Pleas, ruled on Friday.

Haaz found that state law didn't require voters to fill out the address
sections on the envelopes, and the instructions on the ballots didn't
tell voters they must fill them out.

"Voters should not be disenfranchised by reasonably relying upon voting
instructions provided by election officials," Haaz wrote.

The Trump campaign had said in court that it wasn't alleging voting
fraud in the cases -- just attempting to enforce the rules.
Though the ballots numbered in the thousands, they would not be enough
for Trump to overcome Biden's win in Pennsylvania, even if all were
Trump votes.

Also, Michigan judge rejects demand to block certification of Biden win
in Detroit and debunks fraud claims.

But...best of all, Rudy Guiliani is running Trump's campaign to
invalidate the election...perfect. I mean what could go wrong with
Bull****tin' Rudy in charge? :)



The error is not the fields COULD have been filled out, they MUST be filled
out to be valid. According to English majors, words have meaning.


Go argue with the judge, bilious.


Just look at how many rulings are overturned, to see how good judges are.
Or don’t words have meaning anymore?


Keyser Söze[_3_] November 14th 20 08:46 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/14/20 3:31 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/20 11:41 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...courtesy of CNN:

(CNN)Two judges in Pennsylvania on Friday tossed a half dozen court
cases the Trump campaign had brought to invalidate thousands of votes
around Philadelphia, where voters carried President-elect Joe Biden to a
clear win in the battleground state.

In total, the Trump campaign had sought to throw out almost 9,000
absentee ballots because their outer envelopes lack names, dates or
addresses or some combination of the three that voters could have filled
out.

In five related cases, Judge James Crumlish of Philadelphia County's
Court of Common Pleas said the Trump campaign couldn't invalidate 8,329
ballots it alleged were improper. The judge ruled those ballots should
be processed and counted.

In another case, the President's campaign sought for the Montgomery
County Board of Elections to throw out 592 mail-in ballots where voters
hadn't filled out their addresses on the outside envelopes. Those
ballots will be counted, the second judge, Richard Haaz of the
Montgomery County Court of Common Pleas, ruled on Friday.

Haaz found that state law didn't require voters to fill out the address
sections on the envelopes, and the instructions on the ballots didn't
tell voters they must fill them out.

"Voters should not be disenfranchised by reasonably relying upon voting
instructions provided by election officials," Haaz wrote.

The Trump campaign had said in court that it wasn't alleging voting
fraud in the cases -- just attempting to enforce the rules.
Though the ballots numbered in the thousands, they would not be enough
for Trump to overcome Biden's win in Pennsylvania, even if all were
Trump votes.

Also, Michigan judge rejects demand to block certification of Biden win
in Detroit and debunks fraud claims.

But...best of all, Rudy Guiliani is running Trump's campaign to
invalidate the election...perfect. I mean what could go wrong with
Bull****tin' Rudy in charge? :)



The error is not the fields COULD have been filled out, they MUST be filled
out to be valid. According to English majors, words have meaning.


Go argue with the judge, bilious.


Just look at how many rulings are overturned, to see how good judges are.
Or don’t words have meaning anymore?


I haven't read of any of these spurious attempts of Trump getting
anywhere in the appellate process, have you? I think I read that judges
in Arizona are telling Trump's lawyers to take a walk. Your boy Trump
lost, Bilious, and he lost big time in the Electoral College and in the
popular vote. I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

Hey, there's a small demonstration in DC of Trump protestors...kinda
funny to watch, because most of them apparently have no idea what they
are doing. Lots of white racist nationalists. Your boys Sean Hannity and
Alex Jones are supportive.

In two months and a week, Trump will be out. Good riddance.


--
*Lock Trump Up!*

Wayne B November 14th 20 10:04 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.


===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Keyser Söze[_3_] November 14th 20 11:15 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.


===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


The EC functions as it did when this was a small, compact country with
an equally small population. I can't think of another "modern" country
where the head of government is selected by other than who gets the most
votes. I also don't think sparsely populated states should have the same
number of U.S. Senators as California, Texas, Florida, New York, et
cetera. There's no reason why the vote of an individual in North Dakota
should have the same number of U.S. Senators to access as an individual
in Texas.
--
*Lock Trump Up!*

Bill[_12_] November 14th 20 11:40 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.


===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


Maybe change the way the EC voters are chosen. By congressional district
and the overall popular vote in the state gets the two senate votes.


Bill[_12_] November 14th 20 11:40 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.


===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


The EC functions as it did when this was a small, compact country with
an equally small population. I can't think of another "modern" country
where the head of government is selected by other than who gets the most
votes. I also don't think sparsely populated states should have the same
number of U.S. Senators as California, Texas, Florida, New York, et
cetera. There's no reason why the vote of an individual in North Dakota
should have the same number of U.S. Senators to access as an individual
in Texas.


The people do not elect the President. The people elect their Senators and
Congressmen. The state governing body chooses the electors. The state can
choose how they select the electors. The electors in most states, do not
have to vote for their candidate. California electors only have to vote
for their candidate on the first two ballots. After that they are free to
choose. For someone who claims a better education than any other here, you
are sorely lacking in practical knowledge.


Wayne B November 14th 20 11:51 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:15:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.


===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


The EC functions as it did when this was a small, compact country with
an equally small population. I can't think of another "modern" country
where the head of government is selected by other than who gets the most
votes. I also don't think sparsely populated states should have the same
number of U.S. Senators as California, Texas, Florida, New York, et
cetera. There's no reason why the vote of an individual in North Dakota
should have the same number of U.S. Senators to access as an individual
in Texas.


===

Actually there is a reason - it ensures that all regions of the
country are represented equally - exactly as intended.

Justan O. November 15th 20 01:39 AM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.


===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


Trump would agree with you

Keyser Söze[_3_] November 15th 20 01:40 AM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/14/20 6:51 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:15:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


The EC functions as it did when this was a small, compact country with
an equally small population. I can't think of another "modern" country
where the head of government is selected by other than who gets the most
votes. I also don't think sparsely populated states should have the same
number of U.S. Senators as California, Texas, Florida, New York, et
cetera. There's no reason why the vote of an individual in North Dakota
should have the same number of U.S. Senators to access as an individual
in Texas.


===

Actually there is a reason - it ensures that all regions of the
country are represented equally - exactly as intended.


Actually, all the EC does is represent real estate, not people.

--
*Lock Trump Up!*

Justan O. November 15th 20 01:45 AM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/14/20 6:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


The EC functions as it did when this was a small, compact country with
an equally small population. I can't think of another "modern" country
where the head of government is selected by other than who gets the most
votes. I also don't think sparsely populated states should have the same
number of U.S. Senators as California, Texas, Florida, New York, et
cetera. There's no reason why the vote of an individual in North Dakota
should have the same number of U.S. Senators to access as an individual
in Texas.


The people do not elect the President. The people elect their Senators and
Congressmen. The state governing body chooses the electors. The state can
choose how they select the electors. The electors in most states, do not
have to vote for their candidate. California electors only have to vote
for their candidate on the first two ballots. After that they are free to
choose. For someone who claims a better education than any other here, you
are sorely lacking in practical knowledge.


I find Fat Harry lacking in a lot of ways.

Justan O. November 15th 20 01:50 AM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/14/20 6:51 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:15:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


The EC functions as it did when this was a small, compact country with
an equally small population. I can't think of another "modern" country
where the head of government is selected by other than who gets the most
votes. I also don't think sparsely populated states should have the same
number of U.S. Senators as California, Texas, Florida, New York, et
cetera. There's no reason why the vote of an individual in North Dakota
should have the same number of U.S. Senators to access as an individual
in Texas.


===

Actually there is a reason - it ensures that all regions of the
country are represented equally - exactly as intended.


Fat Harry thinks he has a better way. If we followed his advice we could be
as successful as he is.

Bill[_12_] November 15th 20 04:22 AM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/20 6:51 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:15:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


The EC functions as it did when this was a small, compact country with
an equally small population. I can't think of another "modern" country
where the head of government is selected by other than who gets the most
votes. I also don't think sparsely populated states should have the same
number of U.S. Senators as California, Texas, Florida, New York, et
cetera. There's no reason why the vote of an individual in North Dakota
should have the same number of U.S. Senators to access as an individual
in Texas.


===

Actually there is a reason - it ensures that all regions of the
country are represented equally - exactly as intended.


Actually, all the EC does is represent real estate, not people.


And that is what it was intended to do.


Wayne B November 15th 20 05:42 AM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.


===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


Trump would agree with you


===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.

True North[_2_] November 15th 20 12:41 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sunday, 15 November 2020 at 01:42:06 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:
H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.



Seems like a sizeable number in here not only like that boorish and infantile behaviour but embrace it.
Sad...bigly!

John[_6_] November 15th 20 12:53 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 00:42:03 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


Trump would agree with you


===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.


His mouth and the liberal media cost him the election. Biden has a nice mouth
and the liberal media. That'll cost the country.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

Keyser Söze[_3_] November 15th 20 12:54 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/15/20 7:41 AM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 November 2020 at 01:42:06 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:
H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.



Seems like a sizeable number in here not only like that boorish and infantile behaviour but embrace it.
Sad...bigly!


Trump's lawyers in his cases to "overturn" election results are getting
their asses kicked by lawyers who are not impressed by the arguments and
lack of evidence being presented. I think Trump is running scared...his
protection from federal criminal indictments ends 20 January and of
course the states are free to pursue him, as they are. I presume Trump
can resign a couple of days early and have Pence pardon him of any or
all federal crimes, as Gerry Ford did for Nixon, but that's no defense
against state charges. Oh, and if Trump, after being tossed out on the
curb, tries to sell any secret or classified info to raise cash, he can
be charged and prosecuted for treason.

Last photos I saw of Trump showed him without his orange makeup and hair
dye. I got a haircut last week and asked the lady doing the cutting how
long she thought it took each day for Trump to have his remaining hair
combed over and sprayed, and his makeup applied, and she said "about an
hour."

Crikey. Herring's president at work, eh? They deserve each other.

--
*Lock Trump Up!*

Wayne B November 15th 20 02:12 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 07:53:18 -0500, John wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 00:42:03 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you


===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.


His mouth and the liberal media cost him the election. Biden has a nice mouth
and the liberal media. That'll cost the country.


===

That seems like an odd thing to say. Trump's "mouth" and his behavior
are one and the same. Media reported the behavior for all to see, all
the media.

I don't see much so called "liberal media" in Arizona or Georgia. What
happened there?

Justan O. November 15th 20 02:24 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/15/20 12:42 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


Trump would agree with you


===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.


Its our problem now. Well be on pins and needles waiting for the democrats
every move to trash the constitution on the way to tyranny and socialism.

Justan O. November 15th 20 02:27 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/15/20 7:41 AM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 November 2020 at 01:42:06 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:
H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.



Seems like a sizeable number in here not only like that boorish and infantile behaviour but embrace it.
Sad...bigly!


Largely, you are a stupid little dweeb who sides with a mentally challenged
narcissistic asshat.

Justan O. November 15th 20 02:31 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/15/20 7:54 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/20 7:41 AM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 November 2020 at 01:42:06 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:
H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you
===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.



Seems like a sizeable number in here not only like that boorish and infantile behaviour but embrace it.
Sad...bigly!


Trump's lawyers in his cases to "overturn" election results are getting the glass?
their asses kicked by lawyers who are not impressed by the arguments and
lack of evidence being presented. I think Trump is running scared...his
protection from federal criminal indictments ends 20 January and of
course the states are free to pursue him, as they are. I presume Trump
can resign a couple of days early and have Pence pardon him of any or
all federal crimes, as Gerry Ford did for Nixon, but that's no defense
against state charges. Oh, and if Trump, after being tossed out on the
curb, tries to sell any secret or classified info to raise cash, he can
be charged and prosecuted for treason.

Last photos I saw of Trump showed him without his orange makeup and hair
dye. I got a haircut last week and asked the lady doing the cutting how
long she thought it took each day for Trump to have his remaining hair
combed over and sprayed, and his makeup applied, and she said "about an
hour."

Crikey. Herring's president at work, eh? They deserve each other.

--
*Lock Trump Up!*


You got a fringe cut. Hair cut implies that you have a mostly full head of
hair. Want to see the picture you took with your image reflected in the
glass.

Justan O. November 15th 20 02:38 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/15/20 7:53 AM, John wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 00:42:03 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you


===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.


His mouth and the liberal media cost him the election. Biden has a nice mouth
and the liberal media. That'll cost the country.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Nice mouth? You haven't been watching his infrequent unscripted encounters
with real people.

Keyser Söze[_3_] November 15th 20 04:32 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/15/20 9:24 AM, Justan O. wrote:
On 11/15/20 12:42 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start getting
rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended:Â* It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch.Â* You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you


===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior.Â* It took them a
while to figue him out however.


Its our problem now. Well be on pins and needles waiting for the democrats
every move to trash the constitution on the way to tyrannyÂ* and socialism.


How would you know if anyone trashed the Constitution? You haven't read
it and you haven't the language skills to understand it.

--
*Lock Trump Up!*

Justan O. November 15th 20 04:46 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/15/20 11:32 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/20 9:24 AM, Justan O. wrote:
On 11/15/20 12:42 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start getting
rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended:* It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch.* You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior.* It took them a
while to figue him out however.


Its our problem now. Well be on pins and needles waiting for the democrats
every move to trash the constitution on the way to tyranny* and socialism.


How would you know if anyone trashed the Constitution? You haven't read
it and you haven't the language skills to understand it.

--
*Lock Trump Up!*


You don't either of those statements to be true. You make **** up about
yourself and others. You are 99% bull**** and 1% crap.

Keyser Söze[_3_] November 15th 20 05:05 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/15/20 11:46 AM, Justan O. wrote:
On 11/15/20 11:32 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/20 9:24 AM, Justan O. wrote:
On 11/15/20 12:42 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start getting
rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended:Â* It keeps the large population centers
from
dominating the executive branch.Â* You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior.Â* It took them a
while to figue him out however.

Its our problem now. Well be on pins and needles waiting for the
democrats
every move to trash the constitution on the way to tyrannyÂ* and
socialism.


How would you know if anyone trashed the Constitution? You haven't
read it and you haven't the language skills to understand it.

--
*Lock Trump Up!*


You don't either of those statements to be true. You make **** up about
yourself and others. You areÂ* 99% bull**** and 1% crap.


I can tell by what you post here that your language skills are at the
primary school level, and from someone in one of what used to be called
the "slow" classes. And your poor spelling and grammar skills are only a
part of it.

--
*Lock Trump Up!*

Bill[_12_] November 15th 20 06:00 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 November 2020 at 01:42:06 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:
H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.



Seems like a sizeable number in here not only like that boorish and
infantile behaviour but embrace it.
Sad...bigly!


No, we actually liked what he accomplished as a President. Did not get us
in a new war like the last 4 did. Tried to get us from spending our money
to pay for Europe defense, drew down from Mid East wars, rolled back lots
of bureaucratic BS. Other presidents were assholes, but not as New York
boorish.


Bill[_12_] November 15th 20 06:00 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/20 9:24 AM, Justan O. wrote:
On 11/15/20 12:42 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start getting
rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended:Â* It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch.Â* You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior.Â* It took them a
while to figue him out however.


Its our problem now. Well be on pins and needles waiting for the democrats
every move to trash the constitution on the way to tyrannyÂ* and socialism.


How would you know if anyone trashed the Constitution? You haven't read
it and you haven't the language skills to understand it.


To you, words don’t matter.


John[_6_] November 15th 20 06:47 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 09:12:58 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 07:53:18 -0500, John wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 00:42:03 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.


His mouth and the liberal media cost him the election. Biden has a nice mouth
and the liberal media. That'll cost the country.


===

That seems like an odd thing to say. Trump's "mouth" and his behavior
are one and the same. Media reported the behavior for all to see, all
the media.

There was a lot more to the Trump presidency than his mouth. If you are implying
Trump got fair coverage, then I think your opinion is ****.

I don't see much so called "liberal media" in Arizona or Georgia. What
happened there?


Are CNN, MSNBC, NBC, NYT, LAT, WPO, etc., not available in GA and AZ?
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

John[_6_] November 15th 20 06:48 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 12:05:41 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/15/20 11:46 AM, Justan O. wrote:
On 11/15/20 11:32 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/15/20 9:24 AM, Justan O. wrote:
On 11/15/20 12:42 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start getting
rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended:* It keeps the large population centers
from
dominating the executive branch.* You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior.* It took them a
while to figue him out however.

Its our problem now. Well be on pins and needles waiting for the
democrats
every move to trash the constitution on the way to tyranny* and
socialism.

How would you know if anyone trashed the Constitution? You haven't
read it and you haven't the language skills to understand it.

--
*Lock Trump Up!*


You don't either of those statements to be true. You make **** up about
yourself and others. You are* 99% bull**** and 1% crap.


I can tell by what you post here that your language skills are at the
primary school level, and from someone in one of what used to be called
the "slow" classes. And your poor spelling and grammar skills are only a
part of it.


Betcha he's not abandoned his son, Krause!
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

John[_6_] November 15th 20 06:49 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 14:38:31 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O." wrote:

On 11/15/20 7:53 AM, John wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 00:42:03 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.


His mouth and the liberal media cost him the election. Biden has a nice mouth
and the liberal media. That'll cost the country.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Nice mouth? You haven't been watching his infrequent unscripted encounters
with real people.


By 'nice', I meant smoothly liberal!
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

Wayne B November 15th 20 07:47 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 13:47:11 -0500, John wrote:

There was a lot more to the Trump presidency than his mouth. If you are implying
Trump got fair coverage, then I think your opinion is ****.

I don't see much so called "liberal media" in Arizona or Georgia. What
happened there?


Are CNN, MSNBC, NBC, NYT, LAT, WPO, etc., not available in GA and AZ?
--


===

I'm sure they are but not exactly main stream media in that part of
the world. Trump is his own worst enemy on media of any kind. After
listening to a few minutes of his unhinged rants most rational people
would conclude that there's something wrong there. And they did, no
help from the media required.

Justan O. November 15th 20 08:16 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
LlOn 11/15/20 1:47 PM, John wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 09:12:58 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 07:53:18 -0500, John wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 00:42:03 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.

His mouth and the liberal media cost him the election. Biden has a nice mouthge
and the liberal media. That'll cost the country.h


===

That seems like an odd thing to say. Trump's "mouth" and his behavior
are one and the same. Media reported the behavior for all to see, all
the media.

There was a lot more to the Trump presidency than his mouth. If you are implying
Trump got fair coverage, then I think your opinion is ****.

I don't see much so called "liberal media" in Arizona or Georgia. What
happened there?


Are CNN, MSNBC, NBC, NYT, LAT, WPO, etc., not available in GA and AZ?
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


There have been reports that throngs of folks are fleeing California and
moving to Arizona with all their baggage. That is what happened there.

Justan O. November 15th 20 08:29 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/15/20 2:47 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 13:47:11 -0500, John wrote:

There was a lot more to the Trump presidency than his mouth. If you are implying
Trump got fair coverage, then I think your opinion is ****.

I don't see much so called "liberal media" in Arizona or Georgia. What
happened there?


Are CNN, MSNBC, NBC, NYT, LAT, WPO, etc., not available in GA and AZ?
--


===

I'm sure they are but not exactly main stream media in that part of
the world. Trump is his own worst enemy on media of any kind. After
listening to a few minutes of his unhinged rants most rational people
would conclude that there's something wrong there. And they did, no
help from the media required.


Say you had a gardener who kept your property looking like a showplace but
lacked communication skills. Would you kick him to the curb and hire a guy
who talked a good game but fell asleep on the job and never accomplished
anything?

[email protected] November 15th 20 08:35 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:15:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.


===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


The EC functions as it did when this was a small, compact country with
an equally small population. I can't think of another "modern" country
where the head of government is selected by other than who gets the most
votes. I also don't think sparsely populated states should have the same
number of U.S. Senators as California, Texas, Florida, New York, et
cetera. There's no reason why the vote of an individual in North Dakota
should have the same number of U.S. Senators to access as an individual
in Texas.

Truly spoken like the east coasters that the states were worried about
when they had those provisions put in the constitution. We did not
want a feudal society where the people in the castle ruled the rest of
the country. We left Europe and had a bloody revolution to get away
from that.

Wayne B November 15th 20 08:36 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 20:16:33 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

LlOn 11/15/20 1:47 PM, John wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 09:12:58 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 07:53:18 -0500, John wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 00:42:03 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.

Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.

His mouth and the liberal media cost him the election. Biden has a nice mouthge
and the liberal media. That'll cost the country.h

===

That seems like an odd thing to say. Trump's "mouth" and his behavior
are one and the same. Media reported the behavior for all to see, all
the media.

There was a lot more to the Trump presidency than his mouth. If you are implying
Trump got fair coverage, then I think your opinion is ****.

I don't see much so called "liberal media" in Arizona or Georgia. What
happened there?


Are CNN, MSNBC, NBC, NYT, LAT, WPO, etc., not available in GA and AZ?
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


There have been reports that throngs of folks are fleeing California and
moving to Arizona with all their baggage. That is what happened there.


===

Damn those Californicators! Next thing you know they'll try to take
over Florida. :-)

Are they coming through Winslow, Arizona on Route 66? We could write
a song about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8KEbQA8kw

Justan O. November 15th 20 08:37 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On 11/15/20 1:49 PM, John wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 14:38:31 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O." wrote:

On 11/15/20 7:53 AM, John wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 00:42:03 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:39:05 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:

H On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.
eingly
Trump would agree with you

===

Trump's problem is that he alienated too many people in the middle of
the country with his boorish and infantile behavior. It took them a
while to figue him out however.

His mouth and the liberal media cost him the election. Biden has a nice mouth
and the liberal media. That'll cost the country.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Nice mouth? You haven't been watching his infrequent unscripted encounters
with real people.


By 'nice', I meant smoothly liberal!
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Yabut he does sound kinda like a rookie politician who hasn't learned how to
lie convincingly.

[email protected] November 15th 20 08:40 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 20:40:52 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/20 6:51 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:15:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/20 5:04 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:46:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I do hope some serious efforts can bet underway to start
getting rid of the Electoral College.

===

Like it or not, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as the
founding fathers intended: It keeps the large population centers from
dominating the executive branch. You may not like the middle of the
country but the people who live ther are entitled to have a say in
things.


The EC functions as it did when this was a small, compact country with
an equally small population. I can't think of another "modern" country
where the head of government is selected by other than who gets the most
votes. I also don't think sparsely populated states should have the same
number of U.S. Senators as California, Texas, Florida, New York, et
cetera. There's no reason why the vote of an individual in North Dakota
should have the same number of U.S. Senators to access as an individual
in Texas.


===

Actually there is a reason - it ensures that all regions of the
country are represented equally - exactly as intended.


Actually, all the EC does is represent real estate, not people.


Since the people who choose to occupy that real estate and feed you
deserve representation too, it is exactly what I said. A departure
from the feudal system.
Without the Senate and the EC, nobody would pay any attention to the
middle of the country and the government would be controlled by about
a third of the states.

[email protected] November 15th 20 08:47 PM

My favorite news item of the morning...so far...
 
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 07:54:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I presume Trump
can resign a couple of days early and have Pence pardon him of any or
all federal crimes, as Gerry Ford did for Nixon, but that's no defense
against state charges.


14th amendment section 1
"... No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the
privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States..."

There is a case to be made that the 14th amendment would extend the
federal "immunity" of a presidential pardon to the state laws.

As far as I know it has never been litigated and this is just the guy
to do it ... with a "constitutionalist" friendly SCOTUS.


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