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Vaccinate
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. I was at the "Nurse" today. I have never seen my doctor in 3 years. At any rate she had an interesting factoid. Medicare providers, including Advantage providers get gigged by the insurance company carrying your Gap or Advantage policy if they don't show you getting a flu shot. If they get gigged often enough for various "infractions" they are not renewed. That may be why your PCP pushes the shot. I dunno, she may be misstating this but I did ask her to say it again because it surprised me. Same with Shingles and Pneumonia shots. That may be why drug stores want to know who your PCP is, so they can punch the ticket for them. |
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#3
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Vaccinate
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. === I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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#4
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Vaccinate
On 8/18/20 9:42 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. === I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy. I read somewhere there's about a 15% likelihood that the flu shot for any given year will immunize you from whatever flu is going around that year. I dont like those odds. |
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#5
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Vaccinate
Justan wrote:
On 8/18/20 9:42 PM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. === I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy. I read somewhere there's about a 15% likelihood that the flu shot for any given year will immunize you from whatever flu is going around that year. I dont like those odds. More like 60-80%, but can be as low as 40%. |
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#6
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Vaccinate
On 8/19/20 9:46 AM, Bill wrote:
Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 9:42 PM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. === I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy. I read somewhere there's about a 15% likelihood that the flu shot for any given year will immunize you from whatever flu is going around that year. I dont like those odds. More like 60-80%, but can be as low as 40%. I dont like those odds either. I'll wait till they are done practicing and really get their heads in the game. |
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#7
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Vaccinate
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
On 8/19/20 9:46 AM, Bill wrote: Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 9:42 PM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. === I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy. I read somewhere there's about a 15% likelihood that the flu shot for any given year will immunize you from whatever flu is going around that year. I dont like those odds. More like 60-80%, but can be as low as 40%. I dont like those odds either. I'll wait till they are done practicing and really get their heads in the game. They've been working on the flu vaccines for about 80 years. They're probably not going to get much better! -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#8
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Vaccinate
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
On 8/19/20 9:46 AM, Bill wrote: Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 9:42 PM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. === I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy. I read somewhere there's about a 15% likelihood that the flu shot for any given year will immunize you from whatever flu is going around that year. I dont like those odds. More like 60-80%, but can be as low as 40%. I dont like those odds either. I'll wait till they are done practicing and really get their heads in the game. The odds that the vaccine will hurt you are very, very slim. From Bill's article, about 1 or 2 per million vaccinations. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#9
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Vaccinate
John wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/19/20 9:46 AM, Bill wrote: Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 9:42 PM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. === I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy. I read somewhere there's about a 15% likelihood that the flu shot for any given year will immunize you from whatever flu is going around that year. I dont like those odds. More like 60-80%, but can be as low as 40%. I dont like those odds either. I'll wait till they are done practicing and really get their heads in the game. The odds that the vaccine will hurt you are very, very slim. From Bill's article, about 1 or 2 per million vaccinations. -- Freedom Isn't Free! My uncle hit the lottery on the vaccine, I guess. |
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#10
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Vaccinate
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
On 8/19/20 9:46 AM, Bill wrote: Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 9:42 PM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. === I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy. I read somewhere there's about a 15% likelihood that the flu shot for any given year will immunize you from whatever flu is going around that year. I dont like those odds. More like 60-80%, but can be as low as 40%. I dont like those odds either. I'll wait till they are done practicing and really get their heads in the game. That is impossible with a virus that mutates or is an entirely different virus from year to year. "Flu" is a catch all term for a range of viruses. |
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