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On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

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It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a
misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who
are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of
immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming
that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd
immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically
reduced.

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On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:44:30 -0400,
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On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to

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It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a
misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who
are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of
immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming
that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd
immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically
reduced.

The theory is that if 70% can't transmit this disease it will
eventually die out and the herd immunity rate for less infectious
diseases is even lower than that.
As nasty as this thing is, 70% might not get it tho. It is still
conjecture about whether there really is immunity to this and how long
it lasts.
I have very little confidence in anything I am hearing from the
"experts" because they can't keep the story straight from day to day.
I think there is a blind monkey throwing darts at a board for the
story of the day.

On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to

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It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a
misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who
are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of
immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming
that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd
immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically
reduced.

I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with.

On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to

===

It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a
misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who
are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of
immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming
that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd
immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically
reduced.

I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with.

I was at the "Nurse" today. I have never seen my doctor in 3 years.

At any rate she had an interesting factoid. Medicare providers,
including Advantage providers get gigged by the insurance company
carrying your Gap or Advantage policy if they don't show you getting a
flu shot. If they get gigged often enough for various "infractions"
they are not renewed.
That may be why your PCP pushes the shot.

I dunno, she may be misstating this but I did ask her to say it again
because it surprised me. Same with Shingles and Pneumonia shots. That
may be why drug stores want to know who your PCP is, so they can punch
the ticket for them.

On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to

===

It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a
misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who
are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of
immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming
that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd
immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically
reduced.

I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with.

===

I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can
ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our
flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who
died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy.

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On 8/18/20 9:42 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to

===

It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a
misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who
are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of
immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming
that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd
immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically
reduced.

I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with.

===

I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can
ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our
flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who
died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy.

I read somewhere there's about a 15% likelihood that the flu shot for any
given year will immunize you from whatever flu is going around that year. I
dont like those odds.

wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to

===

It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a
misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who
are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of
immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming
that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd
immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically
reduced.

I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with.

===

I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can
ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our
flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who
died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy.


We get the flu shot every year. Is not totally effective, but flu can kill
you. I get the shot, even though an uncle died from the flu shot. He was
one of those who got Guillain Barre syndrome.

Justan wrote:
On 8/18/20 9:42 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to

===

It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a
misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who
are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of
immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming
that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd
immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically
reduced.

I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with.

===

I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can
ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our
flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who
died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy.

I read somewhere there's about a 15% likelihood that the flu shot for any
given year will immunize you from whatever flu is going around that year. I
dont like those odds.


More like 60-80%, but can be as low as 40%.

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 13:59:02 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 8/18/20 9:42 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to

===

It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a
misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who
are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of
immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming
that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd
immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically
reduced.

I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with.

===

I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can
ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our
flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who
died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy.

I read somewhere there's about a 15% likelihood that the flu shot for any
given year will immunize you from whatever flu is going around that year. I
dont like those odds.

It is usually higher than that but still not half. I just think
antibodies are good and maybe the flu I get will be milder.
I haven't really had anything like that since I retired tho and that
was 25 years ago. I have been social distancing since then. I just
didn't know it had a name.