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Why are we fighting over masks? (as a nation)
On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 1:35:15 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:27:18 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 02:16:48 -0400, wrote: We aren't even close to the end of the economic damage. Unemployment is a lot worse than the depression right now. Landlords are starting to worry about if they can actually hold on to their rental property if the renters don't have to pay rent. Lenders are wondering how many defaults they can expect as soon as the dust settles. Businesses are folding all over. GDP in the US sunk by a third in 2q20. I think that is why they want us to fight over masks, to take our mind off of the economy. Who is the 'they' that wants us to fight over masks? Our government, from Trump down to the most junior congressman. It is easier to deal with "maskdebaters" than people who talk about real problems like where will my next meal come from and will I ever find a job.. I don't see the government inciting the fight. It's as simple as some folks won't wear a mask, and others are ****ed because they are the ones being put at risk, while they are wearing their masks and protecting the asshole that won't. |
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Why are we fighting over masks? (as a nation)
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 1:35:15 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:27:18 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 02:16:48 -0400, wrote: We aren't even close to the end of the economic damage. Unemployment is a lot worse than the depression right now. Landlords are starting to worry about if they can actually hold on to their rental property if the renters don't have to pay rent. Lenders are wondering how many defaults they can expect as soon as the dust settles. Businesses are folding all over. GDP in the US sunk by a third in 2q20. I think that is why they want us to fight over masks, to take our mind off of the economy. Who is the 'they' that wants us to fight over masks? Our government, from Trump down to the most junior congressman. It is easier to deal with "maskdebaters" than people who talk about real problems like where will my next meal come from and will I ever find a job.. I don't see the government inciting the fight. It's as simple as some folks won't wear a mask, and others are ****ed because they are the ones being put at risk, while they are wearing their masks and protecting the asshole that won't. Sums it up nicely. What we lack in this country is discipline. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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Why are we fighting over masks? (as a nation)
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 07:46:40 -0400, John wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 1:35:15 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:27:18 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 02:16:48 -0400, wrote: We aren't even close to the end of the economic damage. Unemployment is a lot worse than the depression right now. Landlords are starting to worry about if they can actually hold on to their rental property if the renters don't have to pay rent. Lenders are wondering how many defaults they can expect as soon as the dust settles. Businesses are folding all over. GDP in the US sunk by a third in 2q20. I think that is why they want us to fight over masks, to take our mind off of the economy. Who is the 'they' that wants us to fight over masks? Our government, from Trump down to the most junior congressman. It is easier to deal with "maskdebaters" than people who talk about real problems like where will my next meal come from and will I ever find a job.. I don't see the government inciting the fight. It's as simple as some folks won't wear a mask, and others are ****ed because they are the ones being put at risk, while they are wearing their masks and protecting the asshole that won't. Sums it up nicely. What we lack in this country is discipline. -- === And that is mostly a result of poor leadership. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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Why are we fighting over masks? (as a nation)
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:35:16 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
On 8/14/20 7:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 07:46:40 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 1:35:15 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:27:18 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 02:16:48 -0400, wrote: We aren't even close to the end of the economic damage. Unemployment is a lot worse than the depression right now. Landlords are starting to worry about if they can actually hold on to their rental property if the renters don't have to pay rent. Lenders are wondering how many defaults they can expect as soon as the dust settles. Businesses are folding all over. GDP in the US sunk by a third in 2q20. I think that is why they want us to fight over masks, to take our mind off of the economy. Who is the 'they' that wants us to fight over masks? Our government, from Trump down to the most junior congressman. It is easier to deal with "maskdebaters" than people who talk about real problems like where will my next meal come from and will I ever find a job.. I don't see the government inciting the fight. It's as simple as some folks won't wear a mask, and others are ****ed because they are the ones being put at risk, while they are wearing their masks and protecting the asshole that won't. Sums it up nicely. What we lack in this country is discipline. -- === And that is mostly a result of poor leadership. And Trump is doing his best to school that leadership in managing their states. Never has there been a president more mindful and respectful of states rights and responsibilities. I don't agree wholeheartedly with that. His initial comments ('it's no problem), his pushing of 'remedies' (Hydroxychloroquine) even after shown unuseable, his arguing with his own CDC and NIH people, his immature bickering and tweeting with or about various governors, his continuous repitition of the same **** when giving his briefings (I think he's told the ventilator story about 37 times now), and some of the stupid claims he's made (New Zealand has a crisis, for example) have not been what I would consider attributes of a good leader. I'm thinking he's purposely trying to throw the election with his mouth and his tweets. But, he's better than the alternative. Right now I feel the opposite of most Democrats who are voting 'against' Trump but not 'for' Biden. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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Why are we fighting over masks? (as a nation)
On 8/19/20 9:24 AM, John wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:35:16 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/14/20 7:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 07:46:40 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 1:35:15 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:27:18 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 02:16:48 -0400, wrote: We aren't even close to the end of the economic damage. Unemployment is a lot worse than the depression right now. Landlords are starting to worry about if they can actually hold on to their rental property if the renters don't have to pay rent. Lenders are wondering how many defaults they can expect as soon as the dust settles. Businesses are folding all over. GDP in the US sunk by a third in 2q20. I think that is why they want us to fight over masks, to take our mind off of the economy. Who is the 'they' that wants us to fight over masks? Our government, from Trump down to the most junior congressman. It is easier to deal with "maskdebaters" than people who talk about real problems like where will my next meal come from and will I ever find a job.. I don't see the government inciting the fight. It's as simple as some folks won't wear a mask, and others are ****ed because they are the ones being put at risk, while they are wearing their masks and protecting the asshole that won't. Sums it up nicely. What we lack in this country is discipline. -- === And that is mostly a result of poor leadership. And Trump is doing his best to school that leadership in managing their states. Never has there been a president more mindful and respectful of states rights and responsibilities. I don't agree wholeheartedly with that. His initial comments ('it's no problem), his pushing of 'remedies' (Hydroxychloroquine) even after shown unuseable, his arguing with his own CDC and NIH people, his immature bickering and tweeting with or about various governors, his continuous repitition of the same **** when giving his briefings (I think he's told the ventilator story about 37 times now), and some of the stupid claims he's made (New Zealand has a crisis, for example) have not been what I would consider attributes of a good leader. I'm thinking he's purposely trying to throw the election with his mouth and his tweets. But, he's better than the alternative. Right now I feel the opposite of most Democrats who are voting 'against' Trump but not 'for' Biden. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Good medicine doesn't always taste good. ;-) |
#7
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Why are we fighting over masks? (as a nation)
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:32:22 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
On 8/19/20 9:24 AM, John wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:35:16 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/14/20 7:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 07:46:40 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 1:35:15 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:27:18 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 02:16:48 -0400, wrote: We aren't even close to the end of the economic damage. Unemployment is a lot worse than the depression right now. Landlords are starting to worry about if they can actually hold on to their rental property if the renters don't have to pay rent. Lenders are wondering how many defaults they can expect as soon as the dust settles. Businesses are folding all over. GDP in the US sunk by a third in 2q20. I think that is why they want us to fight over masks, to take our mind off of the economy. Who is the 'they' that wants us to fight over masks? Our government, from Trump down to the most junior congressman. It is easier to deal with "maskdebaters" than people who talk about real problems like where will my next meal come from and will I ever find a job.. I don't see the government inciting the fight. It's as simple as some folks won't wear a mask, and others are ****ed because they are the ones being put at risk, while they are wearing their masks and protecting the asshole that won't. Sums it up nicely. What we lack in this country is discipline. -- === And that is mostly a result of poor leadership. And Trump is doing his best to school that leadership in managing their states. Never has there been a president more mindful and respectful of states rights and responsibilities. I don't agree wholeheartedly with that. His initial comments ('it's no problem), his pushing of 'remedies' (Hydroxychloroquine) even after shown unuseable, his arguing with his own CDC and NIH people, his immature bickering and tweeting with or about various governors, his continuous repitition of the same **** when giving his briefings (I think he's told the ventilator story about 37 times now), and some of the stupid claims he's made (New Zealand has a crisis, for example) have not been what I would consider attributes of a good leader. I'm thinking he's purposely trying to throw the election with his mouth and his tweets. But, he's better than the alternative. Right now I feel the opposite of most Democrats who are voting 'against' Trump but not 'for' Biden. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Good medicine doesn't always taste good. ;-) This will be worse than castor oil. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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Why are we fighting over masks? (as a nation)
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:32:22 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
On 8/19/20 9:24 AM, John wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:35:16 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/14/20 7:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 07:46:40 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 1:35:15 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:27:18 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 02:16:48 -0400, wrote: We aren't even close to the end of the economic damage. Unemployment is a lot worse than the depression right now. Landlords are starting to worry about if they can actually hold on to their rental property if the renters don't have to pay rent. Lenders are wondering how many defaults they can expect as soon as the dust settles. Businesses are folding all over. GDP in the US sunk by a third in 2q20. I think that is why they want us to fight over masks, to take our mind off of the economy. Who is the 'they' that wants us to fight over masks? Our government, from Trump down to the most junior congressman. It is easier to deal with "maskdebaters" than people who talk about real problems like where will my next meal come from and will I ever find a job.. I don't see the government inciting the fight. It's as simple as some folks won't wear a mask, and others are ****ed because they are the ones being put at risk, while they are wearing their masks and protecting the asshole that won't. Sums it up nicely. What we lack in this country is discipline. -- === And that is mostly a result of poor leadership. And Trump is doing his best to school that leadership in managing their states. Never has there been a president more mindful and respectful of states rights and responsibilities. I don't agree wholeheartedly with that. His initial comments ('it's no problem), his pushing of 'remedies' (Hydroxychloroquine) even after shown unuseable, his arguing with his own CDC and NIH people, his immature bickering and tweeting with or about various governors, his continuous repitition of the same **** when giving his briefings (I think he's told the ventilator story about 37 times now), and some of the stupid claims he's made (New Zealand has a crisis, for example) have not been what I would consider attributes of a good leader. I'm thinking he's purposely trying to throw the election with his mouth and his tweets. But, he's better than the alternative. Right now I feel the opposite of most Democrats who are voting 'against' Trump but not 'for' Biden. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Good medicine doesn't always taste good. ;-) I have always been able to vote against someone I don't like without just voting for someone I hate a little less. |
#9
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Why are we fighting over masks? (as a nation)
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 09:09:41 -0400,
wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 07:46:40 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 1:35:15 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:27:18 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 02:16:48 -0400, wrote: We aren't even close to the end of the economic damage. Unemployment is a lot worse than the depression right now. Landlords are starting to worry about if they can actually hold on to their rental property if the renters don't have to pay rent. Lenders are wondering how many defaults they can expect as soon as the dust settles. Businesses are folding all over. GDP in the US sunk by a third in 2q20. I think that is why they want us to fight over masks, to take our mind off of the economy. Who is the 'they' that wants us to fight over masks? Our government, from Trump down to the most junior congressman. It is easier to deal with "maskdebaters" than people who talk about real problems like where will my next meal come from and will I ever find a job.. I don't see the government inciting the fight. It's as simple as some folks won't wear a mask, and others are ****ed because they are the ones being put at risk, while they are wearing their masks and protecting the asshole that won't. Sums it up nicely. What we lack in this country is discipline. -- === And that is mostly a result of poor leadership. We haven't had a leader who could get people to blindly do what he said since Eisenhower and JFK. By the time of LBJ, a significant part of the population, mostly young people, said "you are not the boss of me" and that still prevails. If you look at where the spike in infections really is, you see the 40 crowd. In spite of the spike in infections in Florida the death rate is down and the number of hospitalizations is down. Less than a quarter of the people in the Lee hospital system (our biggest conglomerate) are there for Covid. The hype greatly exceeds the reality. What seems to be happening is we are building the herd immunity in the millennials and younger the old fashioned way. They get it, they get over it and they move on. Just don't kiss your grand daughter if you are worried about it. |
#10
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Why are we fighting over masks? (as a nation)
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 16:06:58 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 09:09:41 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 07:46:40 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 1:35:15 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:27:18 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 02:16:48 -0400, wrote: We aren't even close to the end of the economic damage. Unemployment is a lot worse than the depression right now. Landlords are starting to worry about if they can actually hold on to their rental property if the renters don't have to pay rent. Lenders are wondering how many defaults they can expect as soon as the dust settles. Businesses are folding all over. GDP in the US sunk by a third in 2q20. I think that is why they want us to fight over masks, to take our mind off of the economy. Who is the 'they' that wants us to fight over masks? Our government, from Trump down to the most junior congressman. It is easier to deal with "maskdebaters" than people who talk about real problems like where will my next meal come from and will I ever find a job.. I don't see the government inciting the fight. It's as simple as some folks won't wear a mask, and others are ****ed because they are the ones being put at risk, while they are wearing their masks and protecting the asshole that won't. Sums it up nicely. What we lack in this country is discipline. -- === And that is mostly a result of poor leadership. We haven't had a leader who could get people to blindly do what he said since Eisenhower and JFK. By the time of LBJ, a significant part of the population, mostly young people, said "you are not the boss of me" and that still prevails. If you look at where the spike in infections really is, you see the 40 crowd. In spite of the spike in infections in Florida the death rate is down and the number of hospitalizations is down. Less than a quarter of the people in the Lee hospital system (our biggest conglomerate) are there for Covid. The hype greatly exceeds the reality. What seems to be happening is we are building the herd immunity in the millennials and younger the old fashioned way. They get it, they get over it and they move on. Just don't kiss your grand daughter if you are worried about it. === True leadership requires laying out a well reasoned plan of action that people believe in, and will follow willingly. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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