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On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 23:12:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike
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On Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:02:53 UTC+10, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 22:36:51 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:23:30 UTC+10, Mike wrote:
On Friday, 17 July 2020 15:12:21 UTC+10, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:04:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:20:13 UTC+10, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:10:37 -0700 (PDT),
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Hi, I have a 40hp Mercury outboard that sounds an overheating alarm when revs, get over around 4500 rpm, this outboard is a US made 4 cyl 2 stroke 1996 mod,
first of all this outboard does not have a thermostat by design, so i replaced the impeller but the impeller blades were bent only and not realy damaged in any way so i am concerned that i have not fixed the problem, the engine is in very good condition for its age so i am wondering if any one else out there has had a similar problem with this engine and if so was it resolved and how.
regards Mike.

Are you sure about the thermostat? What is the serial number?
If you haven't checked the water pressure, that is a place to start.
If it isn't around 15 PSI or more at cruise RPMs you still have a
water supply problem. Next might be corrosion in the water jacket.
There are a number of schemes to flush with salt away or just vinegar.

Hi, Thank you for your response, the S/N is OB095842, yes i'm sure about the thermostat. I have had the boat out since but due to another problem i couldn't get it over 3000 rpm so not a good test for the alarm problem, I've since had the problem fixed with a new float and needle, so when i go out in the next day or two i'll see if the alarm problem is still there.
The Mechanic said the alarm problem should be fixed now but i'm not that confident so iv'e been checking around just in case its not, so i know what to tackle next.
Regards.Mike

I am not having much look looking up that motor by S/N or finding a
60HP 4 cylinder. It must be an Australian thing.

Hi! its a 40HP 4 Cylinder 1996 Vintage.
Mike


Hi Again, sorry i got the s/n wrong it should have been 0D095842 1996 40HP 2 stroke.
Mike


OK I still had no success finding that S/N but I also don't see a 4
cyl 60, only the 65. Maybe it is the same motor tho.
At any rate I think go back to the basics. Look at the water pressure.
That will eliminate a lot. You can tee off the pee stream line to get
it.



Its a US made 1996 40Hp 4cylinder 2 stroke S/N 0D095842


Dunno

https://www.boats.net/catalog/mercur...ard-by-hp/60hp

I don't see any 4 cyl.

You might want to try
https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum-14/

There are a few dealer mechanics who hang out there.

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On 7/17/20 12:11 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:04:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:20:13 UTC+10, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:10:37 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

Hi, I have a 40hp Mercury outboard that sounds an overheating alarm when revs, get over around 4500 rpm, this outboard is a US made 4 cyl 2 stroke 1996 mod,
first of all this outboard does not have a thermostat by design, so i replaced the impeller but the impeller blades were bent only and not realy damaged in any way so i am concerned that i have not fixed the problem, the engine is in very good condition for its age so i am wondering if any one else out there has had a similar problem with this engine and if so was it resolved and how.
regards Mike.

Are you sure about the thermostat? What is the serial number?
If you haven't checked the water pressure, that is a place to start.
If it isn't around 15 PSI or more at cruise RPMs you still have a
water supply problem. Next might be corrosion in the water jacket.
There are a number of schemes to flush with salt away or just vinegar.


Hi, Thank you for your response, the S/N is OB095842, yes i'm sure about the thermostat. I have had the boat out since but due to another problem i couldn't get it over 3000 rpm so not a good test for the alarm problem, I've since had the problem fixed with a new float and needle, so when i go out in the next day or two i'll see if the alarm problem is still there.
The Mechanic said the alarm problem should be fixed now but i'm not that confident so iv'e been checking around just in case its not, so i know what to tackle next.
Regards.Mike


I am not having much look looking up that motor by S/N or finding a
60HP 4 cylinder. It must be an Australian thing.


Look up 40 hp 4 cyl 2 stroke. It's listed here
https://maxrules.com/merc_contents.php
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Default 1996 40HP Mercury outboard overheating alarm

On 7/18/20 10:57 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 23:12:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:02:53 UTC+10, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 22:36:51 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:23:30 UTC+10, Mike wrote:
On Friday, 17 July 2020 15:12:21 UTC+10, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:04:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:20:13 UTC+10, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:10:37 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

Hi, I have a 40hp Mercury outboard that sounds an overheating alarm when revs, get over around 4500 rpm, this outboard is a US made 4 cyl 2 stroke 1996 mod,
first of all this outboard does not have a thermostat by design, so i replaced the impeller but the impeller blades were bent only and not realy damaged in any way so i am concerned that i have not fixed the problem, the engine is in very good condition for its age so i am wondering if any one else out there has had a similar problem with this engine and if so was it resolved and how.
regards Mike.

Are you sure about the thermostat? What is the serial number?
If you haven't checked the water pressure, that is a place to start.
If it isn't around 15 PSI or more at cruise RPMs you still have a
water supply problem. Next might be corrosion in the water jacket.
There are a number of schemes to flush with salt away or just vinegar.

Hi, Thank you for your response, the S/N is OB095842, yes i'm sure about the thermostat. I have had the boat out since but due to another problem i couldn't get it over 3000 rpm so not a good test for the alarm problem, I've since had the problem fixed with a new float and needle, so when i go out in the next day or two i'll see if the alarm problem is still there.
The Mechanic said the alarm problem should be fixed now but i'm not that confident so iv'e been checking around just in case its not, so i know what to tackle next.
Regards.Mike

I am not having much look looking up that motor by S/N or finding a
60HP 4 cylinder. It must be an Australian thing.

Hi! its a 40HP 4 Cylinder 1996 Vintage.
Mike


Hi Again, sorry i got the s/n wrong it should have been 0D095842 1996 40HP 2 stroke.
Mike

OK I still had no success finding that S/N but I also don't see a 4
cyl 60, only the 65. Maybe it is the same motor tho.
At any rate I think go back to the basics. Look at the water pressure.
That will eliminate a lot. You can tee off the pee stream line to get
it.



Its a US made 1996 40Hp 4cylinder 2 stroke S/N 0D095842


Dunno

https://www.boats.net/catalog/mercur...ard-by-hp/60hp

I don't see any 4 cyl.

You might want to try
https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum-14/

There are a few dealer mechanics who hang out there.


That serial no goes back to a jet drive 40hp 2 stroke. Is that what you
have?
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Default 1996 40HP Mercury outboard overheating alarm

On 7/16/20 6:37 AM, Tim wrote:
Mike
Hi, I have a 40hp Mercury outboard that sounds an overheating alarm when revs, get over around 4500 rpm, this outboard is a US made 4 cyl 2 stroke 1996 mod,
first of all this outboard does not have a thermostat by design, so i replaced the impeller but the impeller blades were bent only and not realy damaged in any way so i am concerned that i have not fixed the problem, the engine is in very good condition for its age so i am wondering if any one else out there has had a similar problem with this engine and if so was it resolved and how.
regards Mike.
???

Mike you?re impeller could be bad to where ar high rpm, the canes are collapsing and not shoving water through.

I?ve seen this in an evanrude. Where the guy didn?t spring for an OE impeller and went for a cheap ebay replacement. It would collapse . Got an original and it worked fine.

Sounds like yours is getting weak.

Good luck


Once in a while the rubber impeller separates from the metal sleeve. You can
test this by trying to peel the impeller away from the sleeve. The bond
should not be broken.
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Default 1996 40HP Mercury outboard overheating alarm

Justan wrote:
On 7/18/20 10:57 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 23:12:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:02:53 UTC+10, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 22:36:51 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:23:30 UTC+10, Mike wrote:
On Friday, 17 July 2020 15:12:21 UTC+10, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:04:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:20:13 UTC+10, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:10:37 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

Hi, I have a 40hp Mercury outboard that sounds an overheating
alarm when revs, get over around 4500 rpm, this outboard is a US
made 4 cyl 2 stroke 1996 mod,
first of all this outboard does not have a thermostat by design,
so i replaced the impeller but the impeller blades were bent
only and not realy damaged in any way so i am concerned that i
have not fixed the problem, the engine is in very good condition
for its age so i am wondering if any one else out there has had
a similar problem with this engine and if so was it resolved and how.
regards Mike.

Are you sure about the thermostat? What is the serial number?
If you haven't checked the water pressure, that is a place to start.
If it isn't around 15 PSI or more at cruise RPMs you still have a
water supply problem. Next might be corrosion in the water jacket.
There are a number of schemes to flush with salt away or just vinegar.

Hi, Thank you for your response, the S/N is OB095842, yes i'm sure
about the thermostat. I have had the boat out since but due to
another problem i couldn't get it over 3000 rpm so not a good test
for the alarm problem, I've since had the problem fixed with a new
float and needle, so when i go out in the next day or two i'll see
if the alarm problem is still there.
The Mechanic said the alarm problem should be fixed now but i'm
not that confident so iv'e been checking around just in case its
not, so i know what to tackle next.
Regards.Mike

I am not having much look looking up that motor by S/N or finding a
60HP 4 cylinder. It must be an Australian thing.

Hi! its a 40HP 4 Cylinder 1996 Vintage.
Mike


Hi Again, sorry i got the s/n wrong it should have been 0D095842 1996 40HP 2 stroke.
Mike

OK I still had no success finding that S/N but I also don't see a 4
cyl 60, only the 65. Maybe it is the same motor tho.
At any rate I think go back to the basics. Look at the water pressure.
That will eliminate a lot. You can tee off the pee stream line to get
it.


Its a US made 1996 40Hp 4cylinder 2 stroke S/N 0D095842


Dunno

https://www.boats.net/catalog/mercur...ard-by-hp/60hp

I don't see any 4 cyl.

You might want to try
https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum-14/

There are a few dealer mechanics who hang out there.


That serial no goes back to a jet drive 40hp 2 stroke. Is that what you
have?


The jet legs were not built by Mercury. Were actually built by a company
in San Leandro, calif.



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Bill wrote:
Justan wrote:
On 7/18/20 10:57 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 23:12:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:02:53 UTC+10, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 22:36:51 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:23:30 UTC+10, Mike wrote:
On Friday, 17 July 2020 15:12:21 UTC+10, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:04:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:20:13 UTC+10, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:10:37 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

Hi, I have a 40hp Mercury outboard that sounds an overheating
alarm when revs, get over around 4500 rpm, this outboard is a US
made 4 cyl 2 stroke 1996 mod,
first of all this outboard does not have a thermostat by design,
so i replaced the impeller but the impeller blades were bent
only and not realy damaged in any way so i am concerned that i
have not fixed the problem, the engine is in very good condition
for its age so i am wondering if any one else out there has had
a similar problem with this engine and if so was it resolved and how.
regards Mike.

Are you sure about the thermostat? What is the serial number?
If you haven't checked the water pressure, that is a place to start.
If it isn't around 15 PSI or more at cruise RPMs you still have a
water supply problem. Next might be corrosion in the water jacket.
There are a number of schemes to flush with salt away or just vinegar.

Hi, Thank you for your response, the S/N is OB095842, yes i'm sure
about the thermostat. I have had the boat out since but due to
another problem i couldn't get it over 3000 rpm so not a good test
for the alarm problem, I've since had the problem fixed with a new
float and needle, so when i go out in the next day or two i'll see
if the alarm problem is still there.
The Mechanic said the alarm problem should be fixed now but i'm
not that confident so iv'e been checking around just in case its
not, so i know what to tackle next.
Regards.Mike

I am not having much look looking up that motor by S/N or finding a
60HP 4 cylinder. It must be an Australian thing.

Hi! its a 40HP 4 Cylinder 1996 Vintage.
Mike


Hi Again, sorry i got the s/n wrong it should have been 0D095842 1996 40HP 2 stroke.
Mike

OK I still had no success finding that S/N but I also don't see a 4
cyl 60, only the 65. Maybe it is the same motor tho.
At any rate I think go back to the basics. Look at the water pressure.
That will eliminate a lot. You can tee off the pee stream line to get
it.


Its a US made 1996 40Hp 4cylinder 2 stroke S/N 0D095842

Dunno

https://www.boats.net/catalog/mercur...ard-by-hp/60hp

I don't see any 4 cyl.

You might want to try
https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum-14/

There are a few dealer mechanics who hang out there.


That serial no goes back to a jet drive 40hp 2 stroke. Is that what you
have?


The jet legs were not built by Mercury. Were actually built by a company
in San Leandro, calif.



http://outboardjets.com



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On 7/18/20 1:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Justan wrote:
On 7/18/20 10:57 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 23:12:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:02:53 UTC+10, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 22:36:51 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:23:30 UTC+10, Mike wrote:
On Friday, 17 July 2020 15:12:21 UTC+10, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:04:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:20:13 UTC+10, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:10:37 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

Hi, I have a 40hp Mercury outboard that sounds an overheating
alarm when revs, get over around 4500 rpm, this outboard is a US
made 4 cyl 2 stroke 1996 mod,
first of all this outboard does not have a thermostat by design,
so i replaced the impeller but the impeller blades were bent
only and not realy damaged in any way so i am concerned that i
have not fixed the problem, the engine is in very good condition
for its age so i am wondering if any one else out there has had
a similar problem with this engine and if so was it resolved and how.
regards Mike.

Are you sure about the thermostat? What is the serial number?
If you haven't checked the water pressure, that is a place to start.
If it isn't around 15 PSI or more at cruise RPMs you still have a
water supply problem. Next might be corrosion in the water jacket.
There are a number of schemes to flush with salt away or just vinegar.

Hi, Thank you for your response, the S/N is OB095842, yes i'm sure
about the thermostat. I have had the boat out since but due to
another problem i couldn't get it over 3000 rpm so not a good test
for the alarm problem, I've since had the problem fixed with a new
float and needle, so when i go out in the next day or two i'll see
if the alarm problem is still there.
The Mechanic said the alarm problem should be fixed now but i'm
not that confident so iv'e been checking around just in case its
not, so i know what to tackle next.
Regards.Mike

I am not having much look looking up that motor by S/N or finding a
60HP 4 cylinder. It must be an Australian thing.

Hi! its a 40HP 4 Cylinder 1996 Vintage.
Mike


Hi Again, sorry i got the s/n wrong it should have been 0D095842 1996 40HP 2 stroke.
Mike

OK I still had no success finding that S/N but I also don't see a 4
cyl 60, only the 65. Maybe it is the same motor tho.
At any rate I think go back to the basics. Look at the water pressure.
That will eliminate a lot. You can tee off the pee stream line to get
it.


Its a US made 1996 40Hp 4cylinder 2 stroke S/N 0D095842

Dunno

https://www.boats.net/catalog/mercur...ard-by-hp/60hp

I don't see any 4 cyl.

You might want to try
https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum-14/

There are a few dealer mechanics who hang out there.


That serial no goes back to a jet drive 40hp 2 stroke. Is that what you
have?


The jet legs were not built by Mercury. Were actually built by a company
in San Leandro, calif.

Something that old could have been converted to anything. Remember Karen of
Oz. I doubt it was designed to run without a tstat. It would constantly
foul plugs. Something broken or plugged up in the cooling system is my
guess.
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On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 17:16:22 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/17/20 12:11 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:04:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:20:13 UTC+10, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:10:37 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

Hi, I have a 40hp Mercury outboard that sounds an overheating alarm when revs, get over around 4500 rpm, this outboard is a US made 4 cyl 2 stroke 1996 mod,
first of all this outboard does not have a thermostat by design, so i replaced the impeller but the impeller blades were bent only and not realy damaged in any way so i am concerned that i have not fixed the problem, the engine is in very good condition for its age so i am wondering if any one else out there has had a similar problem with this engine and if so was it resolved and how.
regards Mike.

Are you sure about the thermostat? What is the serial number?
If you haven't checked the water pressure, that is a place to start.
If it isn't around 15 PSI or more at cruise RPMs you still have a
water supply problem. Next might be corrosion in the water jacket.
There are a number of schemes to flush with salt away or just vinegar.

Hi, Thank you for your response, the S/N is OB095842, yes i'm sure about the thermostat. I have had the boat out since but due to another problem i couldn't get it over 3000 rpm so not a good test for the alarm problem, I've since had the problem fixed with a new float and needle, so when i go out in the next day or two i'll see if the alarm problem is still there.
The Mechanic said the alarm problem should be fixed now but i'm not that confident so iv'e been checking around just in case its not, so i know what to tackle next.
Regards.Mike


I am not having much look looking up that motor by S/N or finding a
60HP 4 cylinder. It must be an Australian thing.


Look up 40 hp 4 cyl 2 stroke. It's listed here
https://maxrules.com/merc_contents.php


My bad I apologize to everyone. For some strange reason I was looking
for a 60 (not that strange. I am helping another guy with a 60) but it
was still my brain fart.
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On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 19:00:35 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/16/20 6:37 AM, Tim wrote:
Mike
Hi, I have a 40hp Mercury outboard that sounds an overheating alarm when revs, get over around 4500 rpm, this outboard is a US made 4 cyl 2 stroke 1996 mod,
first of all this outboard does not have a thermostat by design, so i replaced the impeller but the impeller blades were bent only and not realy damaged in any way so i am concerned that i have not fixed the problem, the engine is in very good condition for its age so i am wondering if any one else out there has had a similar problem with this engine and if so was it resolved and how.
regards Mike.
???

Mike you?re impeller could be bad to where ar high rpm, the canes are collapsing and not shoving water through.

I?ve seen this in an evanrude. Where the guy didn?t spring for an OE impeller and went for a cheap ebay replacement. It would collapse . Got an original and it worked fine.

Sounds like yours is getting weak.

Good luck


Once in a while the rubber impeller separates from the metal sleeve. You can
test this by trying to peel the impeller away from the sleeve. The bond
should not be broken.


Good call. If you got the one with the brass insert, this happens,
probably because this is "New old stock" and may have been grtowing
old on a shelf for 20 years. I had exactly that problem with my 75 2
stroke when it was getting into middle age, along with the parts. It
didn't last 10 minutes until I saw the water pressure drop. It was
enough to pee but not enough to cool.


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