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The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to ruralcommunities
On 5/18/2020 3:51 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2020 14:55:19 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 13:22:31 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:27:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 11:54 AM, wrote: Bad news for some areas that have done well so far. From the Wall Street Journal: The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to rural communities that have a higher share of older, at-risk residents, a trend that has implications for the stress it may put on local health-care systems as well as the push by many governors to ease economic restrictions and reopen for business. A Wall Street Journal analysis of data compiled by Johns Hopkins University shows in the two-week period between April 20 and May 4, newly confirmed Covid-19 cases in nonmetropolitan areas outpaced those in metro areas by 30%. The virus’s spread to nonmetropolitan areas, where resources for testing and medical care tend to be in short supply, could present new dilemmas for state officials charged with determining when and how much to relax stay-at-home rules. ... https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-is-spreading-faster-in-rural-communities-with-aging-populations-11589601660 Our very rural town has recently experienced an uptick in confirmed cases. I don't know how to think. I understand the reasons to take the recommended precautions, social distancing, isolation, wearing masks, etc. with full realization that I am not qualified to judge as to how effective they are. I also understand that if this goes too much longer we may face an economic hit that could take a decade or more to recover from. One thing that really ****es me off though. In the once or twice visits a week I make to a local convenience type store to pick up a few necessary items, I've noticed that most older folks are wearing masks and gloves but the younger people ... mostly teenagers don't bother with either. They congregate around the store and the Dunkin' Donuts within taking no obvious heed to the warnings and recommendations. I am not arguing that masks and gloves solve anything. I don't know if they do or not. But those who wear them at least are demonstrating that they are *aware* of the precautions that are recommended and are trying to comply. The younger generation isn't. === I call it "Age Related Immortality Syndrome." I had it at one time, and with a bit of luck, survived to know better. There's no known cure other than lessons learned the hard way. Some of us, old or young, are just suffering from Covid fatigue. You can only tell scary stories for so long before people get tired of it. Drop a plastic bubble over nursing homes and assisted living facilities if that is appropriate but it is getting harder to convince healthy people this is a threat worth losing your job, your business and your way of life over. If Covid is going to kill me, kill me and get it over with. Just stop ****ing with me. === Since neither you or I are at risk for losing our jobs, we are in the enviable position of only worrying about our way of life. That's a real thing of course, and a year lost at this point of our lives is never going to come back. We were suposed to be cruising Italy and the Greek Islands right now and then taking the trawler north for the summer. Neither of those is happening of course but I'm resigned to it. I'd just like to get our deposit money back from the cruise ship company before they go bankrupt. With any luck we'll be able to take a road trip north in June or July. Meanwhile the stock market is up big time today on encouraging news about a possible Covid vaccine. Let's hope it pans out while we've still got a few good years left. It was doing good until you know who announced he's been taking hydroxychloroquine and zinc supplements for the past week and a half. Watch the market tank. Sometimes he should just keep his personal opinions to himself. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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#13
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The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to ruralcommunities
On 5/18/2020 3:51 PM, wrote:
Since neither you or I are at risk for losing our jobs, we are in the enviable position of only worrying about our way of life. That's a real thing of course, and a year lost at this point of our lives is never going to come back. We were suposed to be cruising Italy and the Greek Islands right now and then taking the trawler north for the summer. Neither of those is happening of course but I'm resigned to it. I'd just like to get our deposit money back from the cruise ship company before they go bankrupt. With any luck we'll be able to take a road trip north in June or July. Here's a question for you: Would you trade a year of your remaining life for permanent immunity to covid-19? -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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#14
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The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to rural communities
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/18/20 12:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/18/2020 11:54 AM, wrote: Bad news for some areas that have done well so far. Â*From the Wall Street Journal: The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to rural communities that have a higher share of older, at-risk residents, a trend that has implications for the stress it may put on local health-care systems as well as the push by many governors to ease economic restrictions and reopen for business. A Wall Street Journal analysis of data compiled by Johns Hopkins University shows in the two-week period between April 20 and May 4, newly confirmed Covid-19 cases in nonmetropolitan areas outpaced those in metro areas by 30%. The virus’s spread to nonmetropolitan areas, where resources for testing and medical care tend to be in short supply, could present new dilemmas for state officials charged with determining when and how much to relax stay-at-home rules.Â* ... https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-is-spreading-faster-in-rural-communities-with-aging-populations-11589601660 Our very rural town has recently experienced an uptick in confirmed cases. I don't know how to think.Â* I understand the reasons to take the recommended precautions, social distancing, isolation, wearing masks, etc. with full realization that I am not qualified to judge as to how effective they are. I also understand that if this goes too much longer we may face an economic hit that could take a decade or more to recover from. One thing that really ****es me off though.Â* In the once or twice visits a week I make to a local convenience type store to pick up a few necessary items,Â* I've noticed that most older folks are wearing masks and gloves but the younger people ... mostly teenagers don't bother with either.Â* They congregate around the store and the Dunkin' Donuts within taking no obvious heed to the warnings and recommendations. I am not arguing that masks and gloves solve anything.Â* I don't know if they do or not.Â* But those who wear them at least are demonstrating that they are *aware* of the precautions that are recommended and are trying to comply.Â* The younger generation isn't. We haven't been out and about that much lately, but have noticed that everywhere we do go, you cannot get in to any commercial establishment without wearing a mask. I was in Lowe's yesterday to buy paint, and everyone was masked and keeping a safe distance. Have to,wear a mask to get in to Home Depot. There the other day and some lady and her kids were in the store and had removed the masks. |
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#15
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The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to rural communities
On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:51:00 -0400,
wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 14:55:19 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 13:22:31 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:27:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 11:54 AM, wrote: Bad news for some areas that have done well so far. From the Wall Street Journal: The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to rural communities that have a higher share of older, at-risk residents, a trend that has implications for the stress it may put on local health-care systems as well as the push by many governors to ease economic restrictions and reopen for business. A Wall Street Journal analysis of data compiled by Johns Hopkins University shows in the two-week period between April 20 and May 4, newly confirmed Covid-19 cases in nonmetropolitan areas outpaced those in metro areas by 30%. The virus’s spread to nonmetropolitan areas, where resources for testing and medical care tend to be in short supply, could present new dilemmas for state officials charged with determining when and how much to relax stay-at-home rules. ... https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-is-spreading-faster-in-rural-communities-with-aging-populations-11589601660 Our very rural town has recently experienced an uptick in confirmed cases. I don't know how to think. I understand the reasons to take the recommended precautions, social distancing, isolation, wearing masks, etc. with full realization that I am not qualified to judge as to how effective they are. I also understand that if this goes too much longer we may face an economic hit that could take a decade or more to recover from. One thing that really ****es me off though. In the once or twice visits a week I make to a local convenience type store to pick up a few necessary items, I've noticed that most older folks are wearing masks and gloves but the younger people ... mostly teenagers don't bother with either. They congregate around the store and the Dunkin' Donuts within taking no obvious heed to the warnings and recommendations. I am not arguing that masks and gloves solve anything. I don't know if they do or not. But those who wear them at least are demonstrating that they are *aware* of the precautions that are recommended and are trying to comply. The younger generation isn't. === I call it "Age Related Immortality Syndrome." I had it at one time, and with a bit of luck, survived to know better. There's no known cure other than lessons learned the hard way. Some of us, old or young, are just suffering from Covid fatigue. You can only tell scary stories for so long before people get tired of it. Drop a plastic bubble over nursing homes and assisted living facilities if that is appropriate but it is getting harder to convince healthy people this is a threat worth losing your job, your business and your way of life over. If Covid is going to kill me, kill me and get it over with. Just stop ****ing with me. === Since neither you or I are at risk for losing our jobs, we are in the enviable position of only worrying about our way of life. That's a real thing of course, and a year lost at this point of our lives is never going to come back. We were suposed to be cruising Italy and the Greek Islands right now and then taking the trawler north for the summer. Neither of those is happening of course but I'm resigned to it. I'd just like to get our deposit money back from the cruise ship company before they go bankrupt. With any luck we'll be able to take a road trip north in June or July. I am not planning any trips soon and it is going to be a real long time before I get on a plane again but I am not sitting at home looking out the window. It turns out, just about everything I do is essential. With my FIL I am actually out more than I used to be and he doesn't seem worried at all. (Less than me). My concern for those who are out of work is because of my kids and my family in Maryland. They are cutting my SIL's hours and he might get laid off (Michigan). My Niece is in trouble in Maryland with her marina. My next door neighbor works for Hertz, need I say more. I also have other friends and neighbors here who are in trouble. The only ones who are busy are the ones in the trades. HVAC, plumbing, roofing and landscape still goes on, no matter what. The 2 bar owners are worried they may not only lose their business, they might lose their house. The servers say they would rather be laid off than lose out on unemployment to get their pittance of a salary, even if he was willing to get PPP to pay them. Nobody is making up the tips that end up being the bulk of their income. One girl said she may have to go back to nursing, the job she quit to be a barmaid, except nurses are being laid off too. Meanwhile the stock market is up big time today on encouraging news about a possible Covid vaccine. Let's hope it pans out while we've still got a few good years left. I seem to be doing OK. Even that XOM you guys warned me about is up $10 from what I paid for it. If it gets back to 70 I will be a happy guy. I might even buy a car ;-) |
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The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to rural communities
On Mon, 18 May 2020 17:29:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 5/18/2020 3:51 PM, wrote: Since neither you or I are at risk for losing our jobs, we are in the enviable position of only worrying about our way of life. That's a real thing of course, and a year lost at this point of our lives is never going to come back. We were suposed to be cruising Italy and the Greek Islands right now and then taking the trawler north for the summer. Neither of those is happening of course but I'm resigned to it. I'd just like to get our deposit money back from the cruise ship company before they go bankrupt. With any luck we'll be able to take a road trip north in June or July. Here's a question for you: Would you trade a year of your remaining life for permanent immunity to covid-19? === Hopefully we won't have to make that choice. Even though our life has been disrupted I can't really complain too much. We are well funded, healthy, warm, dry, and have plenty of food. Compared to some we are very blessed. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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#17
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The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to ruralcommunities
On 5/18/2020 5:49 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:51:00 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 14:55:19 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 13:22:31 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:27:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 11:54 AM, wrote: Bad news for some areas that have done well so far. From the Wall Street Journal: The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to rural communities that have a higher share of older, at-risk residents, a trend that has implications for the stress it may put on local health-care systems as well as the push by many governors to ease economic restrictions and reopen for business. A Wall Street Journal analysis of data compiled by Johns Hopkins University shows in the two-week period between April 20 and May 4, newly confirmed Covid-19 cases in nonmetropolitan areas outpaced those in metro areas by 30%. The virus’s spread to nonmetropolitan areas, where resources for testing and medical care tend to be in short supply, could present new dilemmas for state officials charged with determining when and how much to relax stay-at-home rules. ... https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-is-spreading-faster-in-rural-communities-with-aging-populations-11589601660 Our very rural town has recently experienced an uptick in confirmed cases. I don't know how to think. I understand the reasons to take the recommended precautions, social distancing, isolation, wearing masks, etc. with full realization that I am not qualified to judge as to how effective they are. I also understand that if this goes too much longer we may face an economic hit that could take a decade or more to recover from. One thing that really ****es me off though. In the once or twice visits a week I make to a local convenience type store to pick up a few necessary items, I've noticed that most older folks are wearing masks and gloves but the younger people ... mostly teenagers don't bother with either. They congregate around the store and the Dunkin' Donuts within taking no obvious heed to the warnings and recommendations. I am not arguing that masks and gloves solve anything. I don't know if they do or not. But those who wear them at least are demonstrating that they are *aware* of the precautions that are recommended and are trying to comply. The younger generation isn't. === I call it "Age Related Immortality Syndrome." I had it at one time, and with a bit of luck, survived to know better. There's no known cure other than lessons learned the hard way. Some of us, old or young, are just suffering from Covid fatigue. You can only tell scary stories for so long before people get tired of it. Drop a plastic bubble over nursing homes and assisted living facilities if that is appropriate but it is getting harder to convince healthy people this is a threat worth losing your job, your business and your way of life over. If Covid is going to kill me, kill me and get it over with. Just stop ****ing with me. === Since neither you or I are at risk for losing our jobs, we are in the enviable position of only worrying about our way of life. That's a real thing of course, and a year lost at this point of our lives is never going to come back. We were suposed to be cruising Italy and the Greek Islands right now and then taking the trawler north for the summer. Neither of those is happening of course but I'm resigned to it. I'd just like to get our deposit money back from the cruise ship company before they go bankrupt. With any luck we'll be able to take a road trip north in June or July. I am not planning any trips soon and it is going to be a real long time before I get on a plane again but I am not sitting at home looking out the window. It turns out, just about everything I do is essential. With my FIL I am actually out more than I used to be and he doesn't seem worried at all. (Less than me). My concern for those who are out of work is because of my kids and my family in Maryland. They are cutting my SIL's hours and he might get laid off (Michigan). My Niece is in trouble in Maryland with her marina. My next door neighbor works for Hertz, need I say more. I also have other friends and neighbors here who are in trouble. The only ones who are busy are the ones in the trades. HVAC, plumbing, roofing and landscape still goes on, no matter what. The 2 bar owners are worried they may not only lose their business, they might lose their house. The servers say they would rather be laid off than lose out on unemployment to get their pittance of a salary, even if he was willing to get PPP to pay them. Nobody is making up the tips that end up being the bulk of their income. One girl said she may have to go back to nursing, the job she quit to be a barmaid, except nurses are being laid off too. Meanwhile the stock market is up big time today on encouraging news about a possible Covid vaccine. Let's hope it pans out while we've still got a few good years left. I seem to be doing OK. Even that XOM you guys warned me about is up $10 from what I paid for it. If it gets back to 70 I will be a happy guy. I might even buy a car ;-) Something newer than a 1998 model? :-) -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to ruralcommunities
On 5/18/2020 5:54 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2020 17:29:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 3:51 PM, wrote: Since neither you or I are at risk for losing our jobs, we are in the enviable position of only worrying about our way of life. That's a real thing of course, and a year lost at this point of our lives is never going to come back. We were suposed to be cruising Italy and the Greek Islands right now and then taking the trawler north for the summer. Neither of those is happening of course but I'm resigned to it. I'd just like to get our deposit money back from the cruise ship company before they go bankrupt. With any luck we'll be able to take a road trip north in June or July. Here's a question for you: Would you trade a year of your remaining life for permanent immunity to covid-19? === Hopefully we won't have to make that choice. Even though our life has been disrupted I can't really complain too much. We are well funded, healthy, warm, dry, and have plenty of food. Compared to some we are very blessed. I came to a similar conclusion when my wife and I were talking about this pandemic. At first she thought about it but then agreed with me that we've done so much in our lives that there is really very little that we are out to conquer. Watching our kids raise their families and seeing the future generations making their way is satisfying enough for us for the most part. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities torural communities
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/18/2020 5:54 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 17:29:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 3:51 PM, wrote: Since neither you or I are at risk for losing our jobs, we are in the enviable position of only worrying about our way of life. That's a real thing of course, and a year lost at this point of our lives is never going to come back. We were suposed to be cruising Italy and the Greek Islands right now and then taking the trawler north for the summer. Neither of those is happening of course but I'm resigned to it. I'd just like to get our deposit money back from the cruise ship company before they go bankrupt. With any luck we'll be able to take a road trip north in June or July. Here's a question for you: Would you trade a year of your remaining life for permanent immunity to covid-19? === Hopefully we won't have to make that choice. Even though our life has been disrupted I can't really complain too much. We are well funded, healthy, warm, dry, and have plenty of food. Compared to some we are very blessed. I came to a similar conclusion when my wife and I were talking about this pandemic. At first she thought about it but then agreed with me that we've done so much in our lives that there is really very little that we are out to conquer. Watching our kids raise their families and seeing the future generations making their way is satisfying enough for us for the most part. We would like to take the boat and kayaks and camper to the Sierras. Lakes are open, most ocean ramps are closed, USFS is opening some campgrounds next couple weeks. |
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The coronavirus pandemic is spreading from cities to rural communities
On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 4:30:01 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/18/2020 3:51 PM, wrote: Since neither you or I are at risk for losing our jobs, we are in the enviable position of only worrying about our way of life. That's a real thing of course, and a year lost at this point of our lives is never going to come back. We were suposed to be cruising Italy and the Greek Islands right now and then taking the trawler north for the summer. Neither of those is happening of course but I'm resigned to it. I'd just like to get our deposit money back from the cruise ship company before they go bankrupt. With any luck we'll be able to take a road trip north in June or July. Here's a question for you: Would you trade a year of your remaining life for permanent immunity to covid-19? -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com Of course, I can't answer for Wayne but I can for myself. I would do so exactly, seeing Im to have been dead a couple times over. |
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