"jps" wrote in message
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"JohnH" wrote in message
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Who are you (et al) to say that Americans aren't aware of the death and
destruction occurring in Iraq? Are you (et al) so presumptuous as to
think
that
only you can appreciate the fact of a soldier getting killed or wounded
and that
other Americans must see caskets? You (et al)must hold yourself in some
sort of
elevated regard if you believe that.

It's a hell of lot different to eat packaged beef and witness the feed
lots
and slaughter houses. You'd like for everyone to have a nicely packaged
product that hides the hideous realities of war.

Shame on you for signing onto this disgraceful practice of hiding the bad
news.

Doesn't surprise me.



I did not see a lot of cameras at Travis AFB when 50,000 dead came home from
South East Asia under a Democrat President. Where was your indignation
then. And they came home in an aluminum casket.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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I did not see a lot of cameras at Travis AFB when 50,000 dead came home
from
South East Asia under a Democrat President. Where was your indignation
then. And they came home in an aluminum casket.

Weak argument. I recall seeing actual footage of fighting on the evening
news and plenty of caskets coming off planes.

I was a teenager and plenty indignant!!!

"jps" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news
I did not see a lot of cameras at Travis AFB when 50,000 dead came home
from
South East Asia under a Democrat President. Where was your indignation
then. And they came home in an aluminum casket.

Weak argument. I recall seeing actual footage of fighting on the evening
news and plenty of caskets coming off planes.

I was a teenager and plenty indignant!!!


I was at Travis and most of the pictures were of demonstrators spitting on
returning soldiers. Where was the indignation against the leaders?

Calif Bill wrote:

I did not see a lot of cameras at Travis AFB when 50,000 dead came home from
South East Asia under a Democrat President. Where was your indignation
then.

There was more than enough indignation to go around. There wasn't much
need for cameras there, the pictures were already taken in the jungle
while the blood was still flowing, and on the airfields where the bags
were stacked. There was little left to hide.

The military and the president(s) knew they had failed and were at least
looking for a way out. They weren't honorable enough to just walk away
and admit their failure and their complicity but, like GW Bush, they
were willing to kill as many Americans as it took to make themselves
look good until they could escape their responsibility.

This time Bush is trying to hide the fact that there is any blood
involved at all. He still believes he can distance himself from the
meaning of those "transfer cases."

The *******s haven't even got the guts to call them caskets.

Rick

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:12:53 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:

I did not see a lot of cameras at Travis AFB when 50,000 dead came home
from South East Asia under a Democrat President.

When did Nixon become a Democrat? Since you seem to be counting, 20,000
of those dead were under his administration.