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On 3/29/2020 10:43 AM, John wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:21:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/29/2020 8:11 AM, John wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:00:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/29/2020 7:50 AM, John wrote:
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.

Sometimes you should do things simply because you feel like it or it
interests you. All in moderation, of course.

I had the last F-250 for almost 9 years but I also had a "kicker"
car just for running around town or simply because it interested
me. As a result, after almost 9 years the F-250 only had about
43K miles on it and when I traded it in the dealership was drooling
over getting it.

I used the F-250 mostly for what it was designed to do ... pulling
a trailer with the tractor on it, plowing snow in the winter and
hauling heavy stuff like landscaping bricks, etc. Only took it
for a long distance once (to South Carolina and back) and had
fun trying to average better than 15 miles per gallon. :-)

For a while I was using the truck mostly for pulling the trailer. But I find it
much more comfortable than my wife's Subaru, so we've started using it for
trailerless trips also. I try, on the interstate, to keep the mileage above 22,
without the trailer, and above 12 with the trailer. For the local stuff, I'll
use the motorcycle if the weather's decent.

The F-350 diesel I had previous to the F-250 gasser was purchased for
the same reason ... towing a fifth wheel RV. It delivered above 20
mpg in normal use ... assuming the 6.0L engine it had ran.

I had tried a GM 2500 diesel as well and it rode a lot softer than
the Ford. It was a nice truck but I went for the Ford in the end.
Should have researched the problems with that engine more.

Worst riding truck I had was a 1998 Dodge Ram 2500. Rode like
a brick but was otherwise a nice truck. The Fords ride better
but not as nice as the GM offerings.

I haven't tried a F-150 though. I've heard they ride like a
large car, being on a different suspension than the Superduty
Fords.

Before I bought my first pickup, a GMC, I test drove a Dodge. You're right, it
was the absolute worst riding vehicle I've been in, other than maybe an M-60
tank going cross-country. We didnt' go two miles, in town, and took it back to
the dealer with a 'no thanks'.

The Ram I had was really a super-heavy duty truck. I ended up giving it
to my nephew who had a construction business.

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price. The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time. It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on. It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg. The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles. Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.

That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:06:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/29/20 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2020 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:04:49 -0400, wrote:

I saw a doctor being asked if a CPAP machine could be modified for
use as a ventilator.** Answer was "No".

Also saw another doc who is currently working in a hospital in
NYC.* He explained the protocols and steps taken when a person
is admitted with covid-19 and has difficulty breathing.

They are not put on a ventilator initially.* They start with a
oxygen face mask.* If the patient responds well, that's all
they do.

Often though, the patient will initially seem to do better
but then deteriorate.* At that point they use another type
of oxygen delivery system that is under pressure.

If that fails, they go to another oxygen system that I can't
remember how it differs, but somehow it's a 'high delivery"
system.

If that fails the patient is then put on a ventilator.
The doc said the ventilator is used when all else has
failed and is used as a last resort.

I still haven't heard what the survival rate is when measures go that
far.

===


I read somewhere recently that the survival rate for ICU patients on
ventilators was about 50%, and virtually all of the 50% survivors had
some permanent lung damage.* Unfortunately I don't have the original
cite for that.


The doc I heard said basically the same thing which was a surprise to
me.* The ventilators that are being talked about so much are the
"last ditch" effort to try to save people who are severely affected
and the survival rate, as you say and as the doc said, is only
about 50 percent ... maybe even less.




What we need are massive, city by city rallies of Trump supporters
interacting on a close, personal level, especially the ones who bought
into their saviour's bull**** of how insignificant the impact of the
virus would be. Party on, and then head to Florida's west coast beaches.

The expression, "**** you" is more than you deserve.
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On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:06:31 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/29/20 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2020 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:04:49 -0400, wrote:

I saw a doctor being asked if a CPAP machine could be modified for
use as a ventilator.Â*Â* Answer was "No".

Also saw another doc who is currently working in a hospital in
NYC.Â* He explained the protocols and steps taken when a person
is admitted with covid-19 and has difficulty breathing.

They are not put on a ventilator initially.Â* They start with a
oxygen face mask.Â* If the patient responds well, that's all
they do.

Often though, the patient will initially seem to do better
but then deteriorate.Â* At that point they use another type
of oxygen delivery system that is under pressure.

If that fails, they go to another oxygen system that I can't
remember how it differs, but somehow it's a 'high delivery"
system.

If that fails the patient is then put on a ventilator.
The doc said the ventilator is used when all else has
failed and is used as a last resort.

I still haven't heard what the survival rate is when measures go that
far.

===


I read somewhere recently that the survival rate for ICU patients on
ventilators was about 50%, and virtually all of the 50% survivors had
some permanent lung damage.Â* Unfortunately I don't have the original
cite for that.


The doc I heard said basically the same thing which was a surprise to
me.Â* The ventilators that are being talked about so much are the
"last ditch" effort to try to save people who are severely affected
and the survival rate, as you say and as the doc said, is only
about 50 percent ... maybe even less.




What we need are massive, city by city rallies of Trump supporters
interacting on a close, personal level, especially the ones who bought
into their saviour's bull**** of how insignificant the impact of the
virus would be. Party on, and then head to Florida's west coast beaches.

They've been doing that already. Oh, sorry. That was the idiot liberal Democrat voters.

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Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
The Ram I had was really a super-heavy duty truck. I ended up giving it
to my nephew who had a construction business.
- show quoted text -“�

I had a 94 Cummins ram 3500. Torque rattling beast! Mrs hated it. I finally sold it when I parked my boat for a while. Now I have a 28’ pontoon, I got back into bye truck business f-150 club cab short bed. Steers like a log wagon but it’ll do for now

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price. The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time. It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on. It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg. The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles. Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.

That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of. Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal. I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance. The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.

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John wrote:
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


CanÂ’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


I bought a Volt for most driving when I had the last Truck. Better
mileage, fits in a parking slot. Cost wise, yup, costs more. Since it
is a plug in electric vehicle, I get a different rate on my home
electricity. From 11 pm to 6 am, I pay about 30% the normal rate, and our
electricity here is expensive. There is an off peak rate also. It is a
hybrid, so even if I want to go further than the 40 mile battery range, no
problem. Run in gas at 35 mpg. The convenience is worth’s he extra
bucks. Is a 2014 and used for $14000 when I bought it. I like the plug
in hybrid as not mileage limited.

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 14:30:08 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price. The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time. It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on. It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg. The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles. Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.

That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of. Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal. I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance. The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.

I would have thought parts would be pretty available for a 2007. Hell, I'm
thinking of something in the 90's!
--

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.

That is why I haven't swapped the Honda for an electric. For the 2000
miles a year I drive, I would never get my money back. I am sure it
will be way less than that this year. To start with I am not going to
the beach once a month to drop water samples. That is postponed
indefinitely. I won't be going to Tampa any time soon either. That is
my big mile maker. (300+ each time). The way it is going I might not
get 1200 this year. I seem to be doing about 15 miles a week. If they
cancel my FILs PT it will be less than that.

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.

We had a CRV for a while and it shares the same issue I have with my
Prelude. (not that different when you turn them over. It is a Civic)
Road noise from the rear axle is excessive. Tires don't really change
that much and on the right (wrong?) road surface you have to turn up
the music to hear it.
Maybe they fixed that but it was an issue on the older ones. I would
certainly want to drive one at 50-60 before I bought it.

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:13:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:04:49 -0400, wrote:

I saw a doctor being asked if a CPAP machine could be modified for
use as a ventilator. Answer was "No".

Also saw another doc who is currently working in a hospital in
NYC. He explained the protocols and steps taken when a person
is admitted with covid-19 and has difficulty breathing.

They are not put on a ventilator initially. They start with a
oxygen face mask. If the patient responds well, that's all
they do.

Often though, the patient will initially seem to do better
but then deteriorate. At that point they use another type
of oxygen delivery system that is under pressure.

If that fails, they go to another oxygen system that I can't
remember how it differs, but somehow it's a 'high delivery"
system.

If that fails the patient is then put on a ventilator.
The doc said the ventilator is used when all else has
failed and is used as a last resort.

I still haven't heard what the survival rate is when measures go that
far.

===

I read somewhere recently that the survival rate for ICU patients on
ventilators was about 50%, and virtually all of the 50% survivors had
some permanent lung damage. Unfortunately I don't have the original
cite for that.

No need, It sounds about what I would expect and we don't have the
"one year prognosis" rate.
I think they use 28 days now.
I am one of those "Hope the paramedics pronounce me at the scene"
guys.

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2020 8:11 AM, John wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:00:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/29/2020 7:50 AM, John wrote:
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.

Sometimes you should do things simply because you feel like it or it
interests you. All in moderation, of course.

I had the last F-250 for almost 9 years but I also had a "kicker"
car just for running around town or simply because it interested
me. As a result, after almost 9 years the F-250 only had about
43K miles on it and when I traded it in the dealership was drooling
over getting it.

I used the F-250 mostly for what it was designed to do ... pulling
a trailer with the tractor on it, plowing snow in the winter and
hauling heavy stuff like landscaping bricks, etc. Only took it
for a long distance once (to South Carolina and back) and had
fun trying to average better than 15 miles per gallon. :-)

For a while I was using the truck mostly for pulling the trailer. But I find it
much more comfortable than my wife's Subaru, so we've started using it for
trailerless trips also. I try, on the interstate, to keep the mileage above 22,
without the trailer, and above 12 with the trailer. For the local stuff, I'll
use the motorcycle if the weather's decent.

The F-350 diesel I had previous to the F-250 gasser was purchased for
the same reason ... towing a fifth wheel RV. It delivered above 20
mpg in normal use ... assuming the 6.0L engine it had ran.

I had tried a GM 2500 diesel as well and it rode a lot softer than
the Ford. It was a nice truck but I went for the Ford in the end.
Should have researched the problems with that engine more.

Worst riding truck I had was a 1998 Dodge Ram 2500. Rode like
a brick but was otherwise a nice truck. The Fords ride better
but not as nice as the GM offerings.

I haven't tried a F-150 though. I've heard they ride like a
large car, being on a different suspension than the Superduty
Fords.



The f150 is same as an expedition.

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John wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:21:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/29/2020 8:11 AM, John wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:00:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/29/2020 7:50 AM, John wrote:
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


CanÂ’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.

Sometimes you should do things simply because you feel like it or it
interests you. All in moderation, of course.

I had the last F-250 for almost 9 years but I also had a "kicker"
car just for running around town or simply because it interested
me. As a result, after almost 9 years the F-250 only had about
43K miles on it and when I traded it in the dealership was drooling
over getting it.

I used the F-250 mostly for what it was designed to do ... pulling
a trailer with the tractor on it, plowing snow in the winter and
hauling heavy stuff like landscaping bricks, etc. Only took it
for a long distance once (to South Carolina and back) and had
fun trying to average better than 15 miles per gallon. :-)

For a while I was using the truck mostly for pulling the trailer. But I find it
much more comfortable than my wife's Subaru, so we've started using it for
trailerless trips also. I try, on the interstate, to keep the mileage above 22,
without the trailer, and above 12 with the trailer. For the local stuff, I'll
use the motorcycle if the weather's decent.

The F-350 diesel I had previous to the F-250 gasser was purchased for
the same reason ... towing a fifth wheel RV. It delivered above 20
mpg in normal use ... assuming the 6.0L engine it had ran.

I had tried a GM 2500 diesel as well and it rode a lot softer than
the Ford. It was a nice truck but I went for the Ford in the end.
Should have researched the problems with that engine more.

Worst riding truck I had was a 1998 Dodge Ram 2500. Rode like
a brick but was otherwise a nice truck. The Fords ride better
but not as nice as the GM offerings.

I haven't tried a F-150 though. I've heard they ride like a
large car, being on a different suspension than the Superduty
Fords.

Before I bought my first pickup, a GMC, I test drove a Dodge. You're right, it
was the absolute worst riding vehicle I've been in, other than maybe an M-60
tank going cross-country. We didnt' go two miles, in town, and took it back to
the dealer with a 'no thanks'.
--

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My buddy’s wife has degenerative bone disease. He had to get rid of his
Dodge and went to a
Chevy as she physically could not ride in the Dodge,

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 14:45:36 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 14:30:08 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price. The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time. It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on. It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg. The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles. Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.

That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of. Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal. I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance. The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.

I would have thought parts would be pretty available for a 2007. Hell, I'm
thinking of something in the 90's!
--


===

Many of the parts are only available through Mercedes and they are
pricey. I did have some luck buying a gray market part on EBAY but
that's a bit of a crap shoot and you still have to find a mechanic
that is willing to install it. It was OK for a while after that but
eventually started glitching again. Since I was really hankering to
get a twin turbo V8 S550 I just said the heck with it and did the
deal.

The S550 is a wonderful car but now I can't drive it anywhere.

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:02:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/29/2020 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:04:49 -0400, wrote:

I saw a doctor being asked if a CPAP machine could be modified for
use as a ventilator. Answer was "No".

Also saw another doc who is currently working in a hospital in
NYC. He explained the protocols and steps taken when a person
is admitted with covid-19 and has difficulty breathing.

They are not put on a ventilator initially. They start with a
oxygen face mask. If the patient responds well, that's all
they do.

Often though, the patient will initially seem to do better
but then deteriorate. At that point they use another type
of oxygen delivery system that is under pressure.

If that fails, they go to another oxygen system that I can't
remember how it differs, but somehow it's a 'high delivery"
system.

If that fails the patient is then put on a ventilator.
The doc said the ventilator is used when all else has
failed and is used as a last resort.

I still haven't heard what the survival rate is when measures go that
far.

===


I read somewhere recently that the survival rate for ICU patients on
ventilators was about 50%, and virtually all of the 50% survivors had
some permanent lung damage. Unfortunately I don't have the original
cite for that.


The doc I heard said basically the same thing which was a surprise to
me. The ventilators that are being talked about so much are the
"last ditch" effort to try to save people who are severely affected
and the survival rate, as you say and as the doc said, is only
about 50 percent ... maybe even less.

We have the ability to keep dead people alive almost indefinitely on
machines but I am not sure we should. My Ex had statistics about
people who "coded" in her hospital and most really never got out
alive. She did have an interesting job tho, being one of the senior
people there who was not either a doctor/nurse or a priest/nun. She
was the tie breaker on a lot of things and saw pretty much everything.
It made interesting dinner conversation and made me want to never
spend a night in a hospital. So far, so good. The last night I was in
a hospital, my navel was still forming.

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On 3/29/2020 2:30 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price. The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time. It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on. It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg. The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles. Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.

That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of. Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal. I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance. The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.



Service is the main reason I have avoided older luxury cars.
Many small, private garages are limited in their ability to
get parts or even work on them.

Even the new BMW's and almost new Porche I had were a problem.
Maintenance had to be performed by factory trained techs and
the locations are more remote.

It's the reason I got rid of the Mini-Cooper I had for a while.
Our local mechanic didn't like working on them, so I'd have
to drive to a BMW dealer north of Boston for any work to be
done. They were the closest BMW shop that worked on
Mini-Coopers.



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On 3/29/20 3:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2020 2:30 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one
through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three
vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or
something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be
better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance,
maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47
years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price.Â* The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time.Â* It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on.Â* It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg.Â* The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles.Â* Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.

That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer
got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of.Â* Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal.Â* I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance.Â* The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.



Service is the main reason I have avoided older luxury cars.
Many small, private garages are limited in their ability to
get parts or even work on them.

Even the new BMW's and almost new Porche I had were a problem.
Maintenance had to be performed by factory trained techs and
the locations are more remote.

It's the reason I got rid of the Mini-Cooper I had for a while.
Our local mechanic didn't like working on them, so I'd have
to drive to a BMW dealer north of Boston for any work to be
done.Â* They were the closest BMW shop that worked on
Mini-Coopers.




One of the reasons why I like Toyotas is because the dealer is about
five miles away, and if your car is going to be there for more than an
hour or two, he'll dispatch a worker to drive you home and then pick you
up when your car is ready. He also has a first class waiting area with
nice couches, big screen TV, huge fireplace, and free coffee and snacks. :)

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On 3/29/2020 3:08 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2020 8:11 AM, John wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:00:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/29/2020 7:50 AM, John wrote:
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.

Sometimes you should do things simply because you feel like it or it
interests you. All in moderation, of course.

I had the last F-250 for almost 9 years but I also had a "kicker"
car just for running around town or simply because it interested
me. As a result, after almost 9 years the F-250 only had about
43K miles on it and when I traded it in the dealership was drooling
over getting it.

I used the F-250 mostly for what it was designed to do ... pulling
a trailer with the tractor on it, plowing snow in the winter and
hauling heavy stuff like landscaping bricks, etc. Only took it
for a long distance once (to South Carolina and back) and had
fun trying to average better than 15 miles per gallon. :-)

For a while I was using the truck mostly for pulling the trailer. But I find it
much more comfortable than my wife's Subaru, so we've started using it for
trailerless trips also. I try, on the interstate, to keep the mileage above 22,
without the trailer, and above 12 with the trailer. For the local stuff, I'll
use the motorcycle if the weather's decent.

The F-350 diesel I had previous to the F-250 gasser was purchased for
the same reason ... towing a fifth wheel RV. It delivered above 20
mpg in normal use ... assuming the 6.0L engine it had ran.

I had tried a GM 2500 diesel as well and it rode a lot softer than
the Ford. It was a nice truck but I went for the Ford in the end.
Should have researched the problems with that engine more.

Worst riding truck I had was a 1998 Dodge Ram 2500. Rode like
a brick but was otherwise a nice truck. The Fords ride better
but not as nice as the GM offerings.

I haven't tried a F-150 though. I've heard they ride like a
large car, being on a different suspension than the Superduty
Fords.





The f150 is same as an expedition.


The older ones were built on the same chassis as the Town Car.


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On 3/29/2020 3:10 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:02:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/29/2020 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:04:49 -0400, wrote:

I saw a doctor being asked if a CPAP machine could be modified for
use as a ventilator. Answer was "No".

Also saw another doc who is currently working in a hospital in
NYC. He explained the protocols and steps taken when a person
is admitted with covid-19 and has difficulty breathing.

They are not put on a ventilator initially. They start with a
oxygen face mask. If the patient responds well, that's all
they do.

Often though, the patient will initially seem to do better
but then deteriorate. At that point they use another type
of oxygen delivery system that is under pressure.

If that fails, they go to another oxygen system that I can't
remember how it differs, but somehow it's a 'high delivery"
system.

If that fails the patient is then put on a ventilator.
The doc said the ventilator is used when all else has
failed and is used as a last resort.

I still haven't heard what the survival rate is when measures go that
far.

===


I read somewhere recently that the survival rate for ICU patients on
ventilators was about 50%, and virtually all of the 50% survivors had
some permanent lung damage. Unfortunately I don't have the original
cite for that.


The doc I heard said basically the same thing which was a surprise to
me. The ventilators that are being talked about so much are the
"last ditch" effort to try to save people who are severely affected
and the survival rate, as you say and as the doc said, is only
about 50 percent ... maybe even less.

We have the ability to keep dead people alive almost indefinitely on
machines but I am not sure we should. My Ex had statistics about
people who "coded" in her hospital and most really never got out
alive. She did have an interesting job tho, being one of the senior
people there who was not either a doctor/nurse or a priest/nun. She
was the tie breaker on a lot of things and saw pretty much everything.
It made interesting dinner conversation and made me want to never
spend a night in a hospital. So far, so good. The last night I was in
a hospital, my navel was still forming.



I remembered another thing the doc said about ventilators.

He said normally people are put on them for several days
until they showed signs of recovery.

The typical covid-19 patient is on it for several *weeks*
before they recover or die.

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On 3/29/2020 3:41 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/29/20 3:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2020 2:30 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one
through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three
vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or
something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be
better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car,
insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47
years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price.Â* The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time.Â* It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on.Â* It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg.Â* The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles.Â* Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.

That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer
got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of.Â* Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal.Â* I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance.Â* The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.



Service is the main reason I have avoided older luxury cars.
Many small, private garages are limited in their ability to
get parts or even work on them.

Even the new BMW's and almost new Porche I had were a problem.
Maintenance had to be performed by factory trained techs and
the locations are more remote.

It's the reason I got rid of the Mini-Cooper I had for a while.
Our local mechanic didn't like working on them, so I'd have
to drive to a BMW dealer north of Boston for any work to be
done.Â* They were the closest BMW shop that worked on
Mini-Coopers.




One of the reasons why I like ToyotasÂ* is because the dealer is about
five miles away, and if your car is going to be there for more than an
hour or two, he'll dispatch a worker to drive you home and then pick you
up when your car is ready. He also has a first class waiting area with
nice couches, big screen TV, huge fireplace, and free coffee and snacks. :)



Pretty much common at car dealerships everywhere Harry.
Where have you been?



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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:38:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/29/2020 2:30 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price. The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time. It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on. It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg. The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles. Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.

That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of. Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal. I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance. The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.



Service is the main reason I have avoided older luxury cars.
Many small, private garages are limited in their ability to
get parts or even work on them.

Even the new BMW's and almost new Porche I had were a problem.
Maintenance had to be performed by factory trained techs and
the locations are more remote.

It's the reason I got rid of the Mini-Cooper I had for a while.
Our local mechanic didn't like working on them, so I'd have
to drive to a BMW dealer north of Boston for any work to be
done. They were the closest BMW shop that worked on
Mini-Coopers.

Okay, everyone, I'll quit looking at older Mercedes diesels!
--

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/29/20 3:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2020 2:30 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one
through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three
vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or
something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be
better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance,
maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47
years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price.Â* The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time.Â* It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on.Â* It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg.Â* The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles.Â* Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.

That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer
got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of.Â* Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal.Â* I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance.Â* The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.



Service is the main reason I have avoided older luxury cars.
Many small, private garages are limited in their ability to
get parts or even work on them.

Even the new BMW's and almost new Porche I had were a problem.
Maintenance had to be performed by factory trained techs and
the locations are more remote.

It's the reason I got rid of the Mini-Cooper I had for a while.
Our local mechanic didn't like working on them, so I'd have
to drive to a BMW dealer north of Boston for any work to be
done.Â* They were the closest BMW shop that worked on
Mini-Coopers.




One of the reasons why I like Toyotas is because the dealer is about
five miles away, and if your car is going to be there for more than an
hour or two, he'll dispatch a worker to drive you home and then pick you
up when your car is ready. He also has a first class waiting area with
nice couches, big screen TV, huge fireplace, and free coffee and snacks. :)



You pay for those snacks.

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:06:29 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/29/20 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2020 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:04:49 -0400, wrote:

I saw a doctor being asked if a CPAP machine could be modified for
use as a ventilator.Â*Â* Answer was "No".

Also saw another doc who is currently working in a hospital in
NYC.Â* He explained the protocols and steps taken when a person
is admitted with covid-19 and has difficulty breathing.

They are not put on a ventilator initially.Â* They start with a
oxygen face mask.Â* If the patient responds well, that's all
they do.

Often though, the patient will initially seem to do better
but then deteriorate.Â* At that point they use another type
of oxygen delivery system that is under pressure.

If that fails, they go to another oxygen system that I can't
remember how it differs, but somehow it's a 'high delivery"
system.

If that fails the patient is then put on a ventilator.
The doc said the ventilator is used when all else has
failed and is used as a last resort.

I still haven't heard what the survival rate is when measures go that
far.

===


I read somewhere recently that the survival rate for ICU patients on
ventilators was about 50%, and virtually all of the 50% survivors had
some permanent lung damage.Â* Unfortunately I don't have the original
cite for that.


The doc I heard said basically the same thing which was a surprise to
me.Â* The ventilators that are being talked about so much are the
"last ditch" effort to try to save people who are severely affected
and the survival rate, as you say and as the doc said, is only
about 50 percent ... maybe even less.




What we need are massive, city by city rallies of Trump supporters
interacting on a close, personal level, especially the ones who bought
into their saviour's bull**** of how insignificant the impact of the
virus would be. Party on, and then head to Florida's west coast beaches.

They are already in Southern Md so you be careful now. The doctor
thinks my niece had it and got over it (a few miles down the road from
you) but they don't have any tests to be sure.

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Wrote in message:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:06:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:On 3/29/20 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/29/2020 11:13 AM, wrote: On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:04:49 -0400, wrote: I saw a doctor being asked if a CPAP machine could be modified for use as a ventilator. Answer was "No". Also saw another doc who is currently working in a hospital in NYC. He explained the protocols and steps taken when a person is admitted with covid-19 and has difficulty breathing. They are not put on a ventilator initially. They start with a oxygen face mask. If the patient responds well, that's all they do. Often though, the patient will initially seem to do better but then deteriorate. At that point they use another type of oxygen delivery system that is under pressure. If that fails, they go to another oxygen system that I can't remember how it differs, but somehow it's a 'high delivery" system. If that fails the patient is then put on a ventilator. The doc said the ventilator is used when all else has failed and is used as a last resort. I still haven't heard what the survival rate is when measures go that far. === I read somewhere recently that the survival rate for ICU patients on ventilators was about 50%, and virtually all of the 50% survivors had some permanent lung damage. Unfortunately I don't have the original cite for that. The doc I heard said basically the same thing which was a surprise to me. The ventilators that are being talked about so much are the "last ditch" effort to try to save people who are severely affected and the survival rate, as you say and as the doc said, is only about 50 percent ... maybe even less. What we need are massive, city by city rallies of Trump supporters interacting on a close, personal level, especially the ones who bought into their saviour's bull**** of how insignificant the impact of the virus would be. Party on, and then head to Florida's west coast beaches.They are already in Southern Md so you be careful now. The doctorthinks my niece had it and got over it (a few miles down the road fromyou) but they don't have any tests to be sure.

I wonder if she touched the same gas pump that Fat Harry did? If
so she might be a carrier.
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On 3/29/20 5:00 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

I wonder if she touched the same gas pump that Fat Harry did? If
so she might be a carrier.


You know what is really sad here? You. About three quarters of your
posts, maybe more, are juvenile insults aimed at me. You really have
nothing intelligent, clever, or funny to say about anything, do you? And
a few of your FLEEG compadres here are in that same little boat.

What a sad sack of **** you are.

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 18:47:31 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/29/20 5:00 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

I wonder if she touched the same gas pump that Fat Harry did? If
so she might be a carrier.


You know what is really sad here? You. About three quarters of your
posts, maybe more, are juvenile insults aimed at me. You really have
nothing intelligent, clever, or funny to say about anything, do you? And
a few of your FLEEG compadres here are in that same little boat.

What a sad sack of **** you are.

And about 95% of your posts are attacks on the conservatives here.

What a horrid sack of **** you are.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/29/20 5:00 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

I wonder if she touched the same gas pump that Fat Harry did? If
so she might be a carrier.


You know what is really sad here? You. About three quarters of your
posts, maybe more, are juvenile insults aimed at me. You really have
nothing intelligent, clever, or funny to say about anything, do you? And
a few of your FLEEG compadres here are in that same little boat.

What a sad sack of **** you are.


Sounds like you describing yourself and your posts.

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 18:47:31 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/29/20 5:00 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:

I wonder if she touched the same gas pump that Fat Harry did? If
so she might be a carrier.


You know what is really sad here? You. About three quarters of your
posts, maybe more, are juvenile insults aimed at me. You really have
nothing intelligent, clever, or funny to say about anything, do you? And
a few of your FLEEG compadres here are in that same little boat.

What a sad sack of **** you are.

===

'Airry, you've been making juvenile insults aimed at almost everyone
on this group for over 20 years. So what does that make you?

What a sad sack of **** *you* are.


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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 14:30:08 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price. The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time. It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on. It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg. The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles. Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.

That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of. Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal. I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance. The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.

That is one thing about my Prelude, Turn it over and it is a Civic so
parts are available and if you are OK with after market parts, cheap.
I haven't really replaced much but Advance Auto seems to have it.

General Motors
 

wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 14:30:08 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:11:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:26:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:50:30 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:22:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:53:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/28/2020 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
John H
- show quoted text -
The new Ford 150 looks like a super truck. My SIL got one through the company,
and he loves it.
- show quoted text -“


Can’t afford to buy new but would love to have one


I may change my mind when I start seriously looking.

A new vehicle every 3-4 years is one unnecessary
luxury I still afford myself though.

I seem to be more like a 20 year cycle but I am not as rich as you
;-)

I keep thinking I should get rid of my 97 Honda but I can't think of
why. I am going to run it till it blows up, call AAA, have it towed,
take my tags and mail them the title. Right now we have three vehicles
in the driveway and only one driver. I really should get rid of
something. I need a truck, my wife won't ride an anything but the
Lincoln and I still like driving my Honda so I guess that is that.

I keep thinking I want a car. Looking at old Mercedes diesels or something like
a Honda civic or crv. The only advantage it would have would be better mileage
than the truck. But then I think of the cost of the car, insurance, maintenance,
taxes, and gas, and realize it would probably take me about 47 years to break
even on the fuel cost savings. So, I still don't have the auto.
--


===

You can pick up older Mercedes diesels for fairly reasonable prices.
We just sold a 2007 E320 with 130K miles on it for $3K, the Kelly
bluebook price. The car still looked great and ran very well most of
the time. It had begun to develop some annoying electronic glitches
however that our mechanic couldn't get a handle on. It was a v6 turbo
diesel that developed 400 ft-lbs of torque and got over 30 mpg. The
fuel range on trips was close to 700 miles. Except for the glitches
it was still a great car that will probably go another 70K miles or
more.

That's more or less what I've been looking at. Sound like your buyer got a good
deal. I wouldn't mind putting a few bucks into it.
--

===

Our buyer was the local CarMax since that is the quickest and cleanest
way to sell that I'm aware of. Since it was over 10 years old they
were going to auction it off, and I doubt that they made much money on
the deal. I didn't want to be bothered with a private sale and
possible recriminations from a disgruntled purchaser.

The biggest issue with older luxury cars is maintenance. The cars may
be a bargain but parts and service are not.

That is one thing about my Prelude, Turn it over and it is a Civic so
parts are available and if you are OK with after market parts, cheap.
I haven't really replaced much but Advance Auto seems to have it.


The vehicles for at least 20+ years have been pretty impressive for needing
repair. When you understand how much more technology is in the vehicles
and really how few problems most have in the same amount of time, most
50-60’s cars were worn out. My 2004 Chevy 2500 in 150,000 miles still ran
great. Seats were getting broke down, they changed the front hubs at
60,000 miles, but was probably my own fault for abusing them. Forgot and
towed the boat back 150 miles at freeway speed in 4x4 mode. One hub made
noise and the dealer mechanic said the other was a little out of
tolerance, so replaced it also. And the CD changer went out, so replaced
with an Alpine nav unit. And a fuel pressure regulator at 140,000 and
power steering hose at 150,000. Oh, a water pump at maybe 110,000.
Brakes at 80,000.