On 3/23/2020 10:11 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:05:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:57 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:51:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:39 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:44:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



For what it's worth, here's what I think will happen
after the 15 day plan that has been touted and
followed by Trump and his team:

Attempts to "flatten the curve" will be dropped.
Mass testing will end.

Businesses will all be allowed to re-open immediately.
Schools will be selectively re-opened depending on
their locations.

The treatment being talked about (malaria drug and Z-Pac)
will receive immediate approval for distribution by
prescription for those who exhibit coronavirus symptoms.

Might require a patient waiver to hold doc and drug
manufacturer harmless.

Then, we will just let the virus run it's course.

Politicians have successfully ****ed on any other
options.

I expect he'll change it to a 30-day plan. There are way too many assholes who
won't abide by the restrictions suggested. Partying is far too important. Maybe
as things keep getting worse some of them will wake up.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



If he goes to a 30 day plan and Pelosi and Schumer continue their
political games we are headed for a depression, not a recession.

If they believe it will help Joe Biden get elected, I would not put that past
them at all. Their actions now give away their intent. There's no intent of
helping people, except as it will help their chances in November.

I think there is little difference in their attitudes and Harry's. '****
everyone, if it will get Trump out.'
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



No question about that. They've made the political maneuvers
necessary so Senate Republicans have no choice but to give
in to their demands otherwise Pelosi and Schumer can point
their crooked fingers at the Republicans as being the party
at fault for causing all that will result. They also will
be able to claim responsibility for "saving" the country
if a bill to their liking is eventually passed.

Makes me want to puke.

Man, I hope the American public isn't duped by their games.

Did you see this? I thought it pretty interesting. Gene (remember him?) posted
the site to show how badly the US was doing because of Trump's actions. It
backfired.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



see what?



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On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:14:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 10:11 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:05:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:57 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:51:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:39 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:44:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



For what it's worth, here's what I think will happen
after the 15 day plan that has been touted and
followed by Trump and his team:

Attempts to "flatten the curve" will be dropped.
Mass testing will end.

Businesses will all be allowed to re-open immediately.
Schools will be selectively re-opened depending on
their locations.

The treatment being talked about (malaria drug and Z-Pac)
will receive immediate approval for distribution by
prescription for those who exhibit coronavirus symptoms.

Might require a patient waiver to hold doc and drug
manufacturer harmless.

Then, we will just let the virus run it's course.

Politicians have successfully ****ed on any other
options.

I expect he'll change it to a 30-day plan. There are way too many assholes who
won't abide by the restrictions suggested. Partying is far too important. Maybe
as things keep getting worse some of them will wake up.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



If he goes to a 30 day plan and Pelosi and Schumer continue their
political games we are headed for a depression, not a recession.

If they believe it will help Joe Biden get elected, I would not put that past
them at all. Their actions now give away their intent. There's no intent of
helping people, except as it will help their chances in November.

I think there is little difference in their attitudes and Harry's. '****
everyone, if it will get Trump out.'
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



No question about that. They've made the political maneuvers
necessary so Senate Republicans have no choice but to give
in to their demands otherwise Pelosi and Schumer can point
their crooked fingers at the Republicans as being the party
at fault for causing all that will result. They also will
be able to claim responsibility for "saving" the country
if a bill to their liking is eventually passed.

Makes me want to puke.

Man, I hope the American public isn't duped by their games.

Did you see this? I thought it pretty interesting. Gene (remember him?) posted
the site to show how badly the US was doing because of Trump's actions. It
backfired.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



see what?

Whoops!

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313
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On 3/23/2020 10:45 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:14:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 10:11 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:05:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:57 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:51:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:39 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:44:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



For what it's worth, here's what I think will happen
after the 15 day plan that has been touted and
followed by Trump and his team:

Attempts to "flatten the curve" will be dropped.
Mass testing will end.

Businesses will all be allowed to re-open immediately.
Schools will be selectively re-opened depending on
their locations.

The treatment being talked about (malaria drug and Z-Pac)
will receive immediate approval for distribution by
prescription for those who exhibit coronavirus symptoms.

Might require a patient waiver to hold doc and drug
manufacturer harmless.

Then, we will just let the virus run it's course.

Politicians have successfully ****ed on any other
options.

I expect he'll change it to a 30-day plan. There are way too many assholes who
won't abide by the restrictions suggested. Partying is far too important. Maybe
as things keep getting worse some of them will wake up.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



If he goes to a 30 day plan and Pelosi and Schumer continue their
political games we are headed for a depression, not a recession.

If they believe it will help Joe Biden get elected, I would not put that past
them at all. Their actions now give away their intent. There's no intent of
helping people, except as it will help their chances in November.

I think there is little difference in their attitudes and Harry's. '****
everyone, if it will get Trump out.'
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



No question about that. They've made the political maneuvers
necessary so Senate Republicans have no choice but to give
in to their demands otherwise Pelosi and Schumer can point
their crooked fingers at the Republicans as being the party
at fault for causing all that will result. They also will
be able to claim responsibility for "saving" the country
if a bill to their liking is eventually passed.

Makes me want to puke.

Man, I hope the American public isn't duped by their games.

Did you see this? I thought it pretty interesting. Gene (remember him?) posted
the site to show how badly the US was doing because of Trump's actions. It
backfired.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



see what?

Whoops!

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313
--

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I saw that data. It struck me that the countries Harry so much admires
for their "health care for all" systems have higher death numbers per
million population than the USA, i.e. Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark,
Norway, etc.



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On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 11:02:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 10:45 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:14:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 10:11 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:05:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:57 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:51:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:39 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:44:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



For what it's worth, here's what I think will happen
after the 15 day plan that has been touted and
followed by Trump and his team:

Attempts to "flatten the curve" will be dropped.
Mass testing will end.

Businesses will all be allowed to re-open immediately.
Schools will be selectively re-opened depending on
their locations.

The treatment being talked about (malaria drug and Z-Pac)
will receive immediate approval for distribution by
prescription for those who exhibit coronavirus symptoms.

Might require a patient waiver to hold doc and drug
manufacturer harmless.

Then, we will just let the virus run it's course.

Politicians have successfully ****ed on any other
options.

I expect he'll change it to a 30-day plan. There are way too many assholes who
won't abide by the restrictions suggested. Partying is far too important. Maybe
as things keep getting worse some of them will wake up.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



If he goes to a 30 day plan and Pelosi and Schumer continue their
political games we are headed for a depression, not a recession.

If they believe it will help Joe Biden get elected, I would not put that past
them at all. Their actions now give away their intent. There's no intent of
helping people, except as it will help their chances in November.

I think there is little difference in their attitudes and Harry's. '****
everyone, if it will get Trump out.'
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



No question about that. They've made the political maneuvers
necessary so Senate Republicans have no choice but to give
in to their demands otherwise Pelosi and Schumer can point
their crooked fingers at the Republicans as being the party
at fault for causing all that will result. They also will
be able to claim responsibility for "saving" the country
if a bill to their liking is eventually passed.

Makes me want to puke.

Man, I hope the American public isn't duped by their games.

Did you see this? I thought it pretty interesting. Gene (remember him?) posted
the site to show how badly the US was doing because of Trump's actions. It
backfired.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



see what?

Whoops!

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



I saw that data. It struck me that the countries Harry so much admires
for their "health care for all" systems have higher death numbers per
million population than the USA, i.e. Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark,
Norway, etc.

Have to admit that was much of the point. I'm sure he'll have something good to
say about the USA!
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On 3/23/20 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/23/2020 10:45 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:14:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 10:11 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:05:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:57 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:51:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:39 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:44:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



For what it's worth, here's what I think will happen
after the 15 day plan that has been touted and
followed by Trump and his team:

Attempts to "flatten the curve" will be dropped.
Mass testing will end.

BusinessesÂ* will all be allowed to re-open immediately.
Schools will be selectively re-opened depending on
their locations.

The treatment being talked about (malaria drug and Z-Pac)
will receive immediate approval for distribution by
prescription for those who exhibit coronavirus symptoms.

Might require a patient waiver to hold doc and drug
manufacturer harmless.

Then, we will just let the virus run it's course.

Politicians have successfully ****ed on any other
options.

I expect he'll change it to a 30-day plan. There are way too
many assholes who
won't abide by the restrictions suggested. Partying is far too
important. Maybe
as things keep getting worse some of them will wake up.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



If he goes to a 30 day plan and Pelosi and Schumer continue their
political games we are headed for a depression, not a recession.

If they believe it will help Joe Biden get elected, I would not
put that past
them at all. Their actions now give away their intent. There's no
intent of
helping people, except as it will help their chances in November.

I think there is little difference in their attitudes and Harry's.
'****
everyone, if it will get Trump out.'
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



No question about that. They've made the political maneuvers
necessary so Senate Republicans have no choice but to give
in to their demands otherwise Pelosi and Schumer can point
their crooked fingers at the Republicans as being the party
at fault for causing all that will result.Â* They also will
be able to claim responsibility for "saving" the country
if a bill to their liking is eventually passed.

Makes me want to puke.

Man, I hope the American public isn't duped by their games.

Did you see this? I thought it pretty interesting. Gene (remember
him?) posted
the site to show how badly the US was doing because of Trump's
actions. It
backfired.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



see what?

Whoops!

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million
population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb'
medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and
seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries


Country Cases/1M Pop

USAÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 106
SwedenÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 191
DenmarkÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â* 250
FranceÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 252
SwitzerlandÂ*Â*Â* 951
NetherlandsÂ*Â* 245
GermanyÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â* 313
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



I saw that data.Â* It struck me that the countries Harry so much admires
for their "health care for all" systems have higher death numbers per
million population than the USA, i.e. Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark,
Norway, etc.




It strikes me that you "science guys" are really in the dark. You are
not taking into account the availability of test kits and testing per
country, the poor availability of test kits in the US, the updated stats
that show the USA even on a limited data basis has about 15% of the
reported cases in the world and the current US confirmed deaths total
about 450 against 10,000 worldwide, or about 5% of worldwide deaths, and
the fact that the virus became active here later than it did in other
countries.

You should have studied English.

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 11:19:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/23/20 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/23/2020 10:45 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:14:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 10:11 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:05:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:57 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:51:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:39 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:44:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



For what it's worth, here's what I think will happen
after the 15 day plan that has been touted and
followed by Trump and his team:

Attempts to "flatten the curve" will be dropped.
Mass testing will end.

Businesses* will all be allowed to re-open immediately.
Schools will be selectively re-opened depending on
their locations.

The treatment being talked about (malaria drug and Z-Pac)
will receive immediate approval for distribution by
prescription for those who exhibit coronavirus symptoms.

Might require a patient waiver to hold doc and drug
manufacturer harmless.

Then, we will just let the virus run it's course.

Politicians have successfully ****ed on any other
options.

I expect he'll change it to a 30-day plan. There are way too
many assholes who
won't abide by the restrictions suggested. Partying is far too
important. Maybe
as things keep getting worse some of them will wake up.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



If he goes to a 30 day plan and Pelosi and Schumer continue their
political games we are headed for a depression, not a recession.

If they believe it will help Joe Biden get elected, I would not
put that past
them at all. Their actions now give away their intent. There's no
intent of
helping people, except as it will help their chances in November.

I think there is little difference in their attitudes and Harry's.
'****
everyone, if it will get Trump out.'
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



No question about that. They've made the political maneuvers
necessary so Senate Republicans have no choice but to give
in to their demands otherwise Pelosi and Schumer can point
their crooked fingers at the Republicans as being the party
at fault for causing all that will result.* They also will
be able to claim responsibility for "saving" the country
if a bill to their liking is eventually passed.

Makes me want to puke.

Man, I hope the American public isn't duped by their games.

Did you see this? I thought it pretty interesting. Gene (remember
him?) posted
the site to show how badly the US was doing because of Trump's
actions. It
backfired.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



see what?

Whoops!

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million
population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb'
medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and
seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries


Country Cases/1M Pop

USA*********** 106
Sweden******* 191
Denmark***** 250
France******** 252
Switzerland*** 951
Netherlands** 245
Germany***** 313
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



I saw that data.* It struck me that the countries Harry so much admires
for their "health care for all" systems have higher death numbers per
million population than the USA, i.e. Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark,
Norway, etc.




It strikes me that you "science guys" are really in the dark. You are
not taking into account the availability of test kits and testing per
country, the poor availability of test kits in the US, the updated stats
that show the USA even on a limited data basis has about 15% of the
reported cases in the world and the current US confirmed deaths total
about 450 against 10,000 worldwide, or about 5% of worldwide deaths, and
the fact that the virus became active here later than it did in other
countries.

You should have studied English.


Unless you compare the number of deaths to the total population, your numbers
are meaningless. You seem to forget we're the third most populous country in the
world.

Shame you learned only English - and are not too good with that.
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On 3/23/2020 11:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/23/20 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/23/2020 10:45 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:14:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 10:11 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:05:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:57 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:51:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:39 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:44:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



For what it's worth, here's what I think will happen
after the 15 day plan that has been touted and
followed by Trump and his team:

Attempts to "flatten the curve" will be dropped.
Mass testing will end.

BusinessesÂ* will all be allowed to re-open immediately.
Schools will be selectively re-opened depending on
their locations.

The treatment being talked about (malaria drug and Z-Pac)
will receive immediate approval for distribution by
prescription for those who exhibit coronavirus symptoms.

Might require a patient waiver to hold doc and drug
manufacturer harmless.

Then, we will just let the virus run it's course.

Politicians have successfully ****ed on any other
options.

I expect he'll change it to a 30-day plan. There are way too
many assholes who
won't abide by the restrictions suggested. Partying is far too
important. Maybe
as things keep getting worse some of them will wake up.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



If he goes to a 30 day plan and Pelosi and Schumer continue their
political games we are headed for a depression, not a recession.

If they believe it will help Joe Biden get elected, I would not
put that past
them at all. Their actions now give away their intent. There's no
intent of
helping people, except as it will help their chances in November.

I think there is little difference in their attitudes and
Harry's. '****
everyone, if it will get Trump out.'
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



No question about that. They've made the political maneuvers
necessary so Senate Republicans have no choice but to give
in to their demands otherwise Pelosi and Schumer can point
their crooked fingers at the Republicans as being the party
at fault for causing all that will result.Â* They also will
be able to claim responsibility for "saving" the country
if a bill to their liking is eventually passed.

Makes me want to puke.

Man, I hope the American public isn't duped by their games.

Did you see this? I thought it pretty interesting. Gene (remember
him?) posted
the site to show how badly the US was doing because of Trump's
actions. It
backfired.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



see what?

Whoops!

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million
population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb'
medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and
seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries


Country Cases/1M Pop

USAÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 106
SwedenÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 191
DenmarkÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â* 250
FranceÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 252
SwitzerlandÂ*Â*Â* 951
NetherlandsÂ*Â* 245
GermanyÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â* 313
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



I saw that data.Â* It struck me that the countries Harry so much admires
for their "health care for all" systems have higher death numbers per
million population than the USA, i.e. Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark,
Norway, etc.




It strikes me that you "science guys" are really in the dark. You are
not taking into account the availability of test kits and testing per
country, the poor availability of test kits in the US, the updated stats
that show the USA even on a limited data basis has about 15% of the
reported cases in the world and the current US confirmed deaths total
about 450 against 10,000 worldwide, or about 5% of worldwide deaths, and
the fact that the virus became active here later than it did in other
countries.

You should have studied English.Â*



You should study "Google for Dummies".

The USA did *not* confirm first cases later than those
you admire in Europe. Here are the dates:

USA: January 19

Switzerland: February 25
Norway: February 26
Demark: February 26
Sweden: March 5

Italy confirmed first two cases on
January 31st -- after the USA

UK confirmed first cases in February, again after the USA.

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On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 11:46:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 11:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/23/20 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/23/2020 10:45 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:14:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 10:11 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:05:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:57 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:51:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:39 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:44:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



For what it's worth, here's what I think will happen
after the 15 day plan that has been touted and
followed by Trump and his team:

Attempts to "flatten the curve" will be dropped.
Mass testing will end.

Businesses* will all be allowed to re-open immediately.
Schools will be selectively re-opened depending on
their locations.

The treatment being talked about (malaria drug and Z-Pac)
will receive immediate approval for distribution by
prescription for those who exhibit coronavirus symptoms.

Might require a patient waiver to hold doc and drug
manufacturer harmless.

Then, we will just let the virus run it's course.

Politicians have successfully ****ed on any other
options.

I expect he'll change it to a 30-day plan. There are way too
many assholes who
won't abide by the restrictions suggested. Partying is far too
important. Maybe
as things keep getting worse some of them will wake up.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



If he goes to a 30 day plan and Pelosi and Schumer continue their
political games we are headed for a depression, not a recession.

If they believe it will help Joe Biden get elected, I would not
put that past
them at all. Their actions now give away their intent. There's no
intent of
helping people, except as it will help their chances in November.

I think there is little difference in their attitudes and
Harry's. '****
everyone, if it will get Trump out.'
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



No question about that. They've made the political maneuvers
necessary so Senate Republicans have no choice but to give
in to their demands otherwise Pelosi and Schumer can point
their crooked fingers at the Republicans as being the party
at fault for causing all that will result.* They also will
be able to claim responsibility for "saving" the country
if a bill to their liking is eventually passed.

Makes me want to puke.

Man, I hope the American public isn't duped by their games.

Did you see this? I thought it pretty interesting. Gene (remember
him?) posted
the site to show how badly the US was doing because of Trump's
actions. It
backfired.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



see what?

Whoops!

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million
population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb'
medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and
seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries


Country Cases/1M Pop

USA*********** 106
Sweden******* 191
Denmark***** 250
France******** 252
Switzerland*** 951
Netherlands** 245
Germany***** 313
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I saw that data.* It struck me that the countries Harry so much admires
for their "health care for all" systems have higher death numbers per
million population than the USA, i.e. Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark,
Norway, etc.




It strikes me that you "science guys" are really in the dark. You are
not taking into account the availability of test kits and testing per
country, the poor availability of test kits in the US, the updated stats
that show the USA even on a limited data basis has about 15% of the
reported cases in the world and the current US confirmed deaths total
about 450 against 10,000 worldwide, or about 5% of worldwide deaths, and
the fact that the virus became active here later than it did in other
countries.

You should have studied English.*



You should study "Google for Dummies".

The USA did *not* confirm first cases later than those
you admire in Europe. Here are the dates:

USA: January 19

Switzerland: February 25
Norway: February 26
Demark: February 26
Sweden: March 5

Italy confirmed first two cases on
January 31st -- after the USA

UK confirmed first cases in February, again after the USA.

There you go with those heinous facts again!
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 11:02:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/23/2020 10:45 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:14:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 10:11 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 10:05:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:57 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:51:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2020 9:39 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:44:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



For what it's worth, here's what I think will happen
after the 15 day plan that has been touted and
followed by Trump and his team:

Attempts to "flatten the curve" will be dropped.
Mass testing will end.

Businesses will all be allowed to re-open immediately.
Schools will be selectively re-opened depending on
their locations.

The treatment being talked about (malaria drug and Z-Pac)
will receive immediate approval for distribution by
prescription for those who exhibit coronavirus symptoms.

Might require a patient waiver to hold doc and drug
manufacturer harmless.

Then, we will just let the virus run it's course.

Politicians have successfully ****ed on any other
options.

I expect he'll change it to a 30-day plan. There are way too many assholes who
won't abide by the restrictions suggested. Partying is far too important. Maybe
as things keep getting worse some of them will wake up.
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If he goes to a 30 day plan and Pelosi and Schumer continue their
political games we are headed for a depression, not a recession.

If they believe it will help Joe Biden get elected, I would not put that past
them at all. Their actions now give away their intent. There's no intent of
helping people, except as it will help their chances in November.

I think there is little difference in their attitudes and Harry's. '****
everyone, if it will get Trump out.'
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No question about that. They've made the political maneuvers
necessary so Senate Republicans have no choice but to give
in to their demands otherwise Pelosi and Schumer can point
their crooked fingers at the Republicans as being the party
at fault for causing all that will result. They also will
be able to claim responsibility for "saving" the country
if a bill to their liking is eventually passed.

Makes me want to puke.

Man, I hope the American public isn't duped by their games.

Did you see this? I thought it pretty interesting. Gene (remember him?) posted
the site to show how badly the US was doing because of Trump's actions. It
backfired.
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see what?

Whoops!

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313
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I saw that data. It struck me that the countries Harry so much admires
for their "health care for all" systems have higher death numbers per
million population than the USA, i.e. Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark,
Norway, etc.

They aren't saying it out loud but in those "rationed care" countries,
I bet they don't have as much equipment or facilities as we do and if
what they said yesterday is true, we are going to be making a bunch
more of everything.
One thing the "fee for service" model does is make it profitable for
every little strip mall quack to have lots of equipment and there is
no shortage of those places.
The idea of making the hospitals the Covid centers and taking as many
as possible of other cases to other facilities certainly expands those
resources across the medical community. I also think military medical
personnel will start getting more respect.
I don't really think we will have any shortage of medical resources if
we use them wisely.