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On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries


I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
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This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.


Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.
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wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.


Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.


Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem
correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed.
Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild,
so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked.

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On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:49:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries


I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.


... and I said the I-95 I-5 corridors so we are on the same page but
most of the country is not there. I agree when this gets loose in the
city it will be a nightmare, particularly when the homeless get it. I
am just not sure how you score those deaths. Was it C-19 or one of the
usual things that kill them ... and do we really care?


We are not all non-caring loonytarians.

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Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.


Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.


Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem
correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed.
Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild,
so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked.



You are correct...there are lots of undiagnosed cases.

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On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 12:58:48 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:49:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries


I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.


... and I said the I-95 I-5 corridors so we are on the same page but
most of the country is not there. I agree when this gets loose in the
city it will be a nightmare, particularly when the homeless get it. I
am just not sure how you score those deaths. Was it C-19 or one of the
usual things that kill them ... and do we really care?


Yes, we do care. I hate seeing anyone suffer. Trump has mentioned the flu and
the last briefing or two. It's still killing at the rate of about 4K per month,
but that's not important because it can't be used to make Trump look bad.
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On 24 Mar 2020 17:35:06 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:49:20 -0400, John wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.


... and I said the I-95 I-5 corridors so we are on the same page but
most of the country is not there. I agree when this gets loose in the
city it will be a nightmare, particularly when the homeless get it. I
am just not sure how you score those deaths. Was it C-19 or one of the
usual things that kill them ... and do we really care?


We are not all non-caring loonytarians.


Luckily only a small percent of the population is as full of **** as you.
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:14:58 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.


Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.


Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem
correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed.
Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild,
so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked.


Not sure what you mean by 'evenly distributed'. The 106/1M cases could be evenly
distributed, but you'd still not see but a few in states like Wyoming and
Montana. The cases would be clustered in the high population centers.
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On 24 Mar 2020 17:35:07 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population.
Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical
systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be
continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries

Country Cases/1M Pop

USA 106
Sweden 191
Denmark 250
France 252
Switzerland 951
Netherlands 245
Germany 313

They did have a head start and they do have a higher population
density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing.
Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live
their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than
that.

I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a
density in our population centers as those countries do.

Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the
density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you
turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway
Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf

You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_a...pean_countries

I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!



This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had
nothing to do with population density. It had to do with
one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established
itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed
in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the
reason for their higher death rate per million population.

I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several
countries including those that Harry routinely
likes to compare their superior health care systems to
that of the USA.

Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the
USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it
was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe.

Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing
home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing
home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the
first place.


Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem
correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed.
Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild,
so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked.



You are correct...there are lots of undiagnosed cases.


So what? Is that Trump's fault? The undiagnosed cases should have the same
distribution as the diagnosed cases.
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John Wrote in message:
On 24 Mar 2020 17:35:07 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population. Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be continuing. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR3OxhP3wwwbr_ihNoXHNJiW6FbUahQX5SCRlRpW fh52SXSoYFPSo5WIIsE#countries Country Cases/1M Pop USA 106 Sweden 191 Denmark 250 France 252 Switzerland 951 Netherlands 245 Germany 313 They did have a head start and they do have a higher population density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing. Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than that. I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a density in our population centers as those countries do. Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as you turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is +AH4-2.6 sq/km https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_and_population_of_European_countries I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees. -- Freedom Isn't Free! This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had nothing to do with population density. It had to do with one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the reason for their higher death rate per million population. I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several countries including those that Harry routinely likes to compare their superior health care systems to that of the USA. Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe. Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the first place. Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed. Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild, so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked. You are correct...there are lots of undiagnosed cases.So what? Is that Trump's fault? The undiagnosed cases should have the samedistribution as the diagnosed cases.--Freedom Isn't Free!


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On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 14:31:31 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart wrote:

John Wrote in message:
On 24 Mar 2020 17:35:07 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:35:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/24/2020 7:49 AM, John wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:13:09 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:43:13 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:41:49 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 07:39:21 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: The site below lists by country the number of cases per million population. Comparing us, at 106/1M, to some of those countries with the 'superb' medical systems make ours look pretty good. Trump did the right thing, and seems to be continuing.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR3OxhP3wwwbr_ihNoXHNJiW6FbUahQX5SCRlRpW fh52SXSoYFPSo5WIIsE#countries Country Cases/1M Pop USA 106 Sweden 191 Denmark 250 France 252 Switzerland 951 Netherlands 245 Germany 313 They did have a head start and they do have a higher population density. New York will be a good test of the population density thing. Those people in Manhattan have less than 400 square feet each to live their whole lives. (based on pop density) My garage is bigger than that. I think Luddite shot some of that out of the water. We have just as high a density in our population centers as those countries do. Not if you take the US as a whole ... by a long shot. I agree the density of Europe is like the I95 or I5 corridor but as soon as
you turn inward the density falls off fast. Even so except for Norway Finland and Denmark most of europe is dark orange or red on this map https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/512popdn.pdf You are a math whiz. A Sq/mi is ~2.6 sq/km https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_and_population_of_European_countries I said 'in our population centers'! Jeees. -- Freedom Isn't Free! This thread has become confused. The comment I made earlier had nothing to do with population density. It had to do with one of Harry's assertions that the corvid-19 virus established itself in countries in Europe *before* it was first confirmed in the USA. He was trying to make the case that *that* is the reason for their higher death rate per million population. I presented dates of the first confirmed cases for several countries including those that Harry routinely likes to compare their
superior health care systems to that of the USA. Bottom line ... the Corvid-19 virus was confirmed in the USA weeks or in one case at least a month before it was confirmed in his favorite countries in Europe. Unfortunately the first cases in Washington State were in a nursing home where the death rate was staggering but not unusual for a nursing home. Those people don't expect to come out of there alive in the first place. Seeing the charts where most of the cases are in the elderly, does not seem correct. I think the disease should be more evenly distributed. Therefore there has to be a lot of undiagnosed cases. They will be mild, so the younger are thinking it is something else and not getting checked. You are correct...there are lots of undiagnosed cases.So what? Is that Trump's fault? The undiagnosed cases should have the samedistribution as the diagnosed cases.--Freedom Isn't Free!

What we need is a prominent democrat to get in there and level the
playing field. Ya, thats the ticket. :-)


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