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On 2/5/2020 12:10 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/5/20 11:54 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 04:52:14 -0800 (PST), Tim
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Mr. Luddite



Censure is defined as a formal, and public, group condemnation of an
individual, often a group member, whose actions run counter to the
group's acceptable standards for individual behavior.

In the United States, governmental censure is done when a body's members
wish to publicly reprimand the President of the United States, a member
of Congress, a judge or a cabinet member. It is a formal statement of
disapproval.

Nancy Pelosi certainly qualifies to be formally censured for
tearing up her copy of the SOTU address on national television,
especially in a formal, joint session of Congress.
/——


I thought the spoiled brat scene she made was pretty tacky myself


It certainly makes it clear these are not the adults in the room.
The Democrat majority will never vote for censure tho.


Saw that Trump refused to shake Pelosi's hand before he started
speaking. Luddite didn't mention that.


Actually, I did.

He didn't shake VP Pence's hand either. But you wouldn't know that
because you didn't watch it, right?

There's a question as to whether Trump knew of Pelosi's gesture to
shake hands. Some say he didn't see it because he delivered her
copy of his speech and immediately turned away.

I suspect he probably *did* know but chose to ignore it.
Pelosi made the first snub of the evening when she
chose to ignore the traditional, respectful introduction of a POTUS
to a joint session of Congress and instead, just introduced
him as "the President".

Trump isn't a meek, scared politician. He was out for blood
but did so in a well orchestrated, creative way.

I also don't believe Trump himself designs the execution of
his "attacks". I believe his staff and speechwriters have
a lot to do with it.

Sidebar:

I was thinking about when the Democrat party last had leaders
who were politically influential without resorting to years
of personal attacks of a sitting POTUS. With the rules
the Democrats use today, even FDR would be subject to
impeachment for hiding his polio affliction and conducting
a cover-up of it from the population.





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Default Censure Pelosi

On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 12:10:09 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 2/5/20 11:54 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 04:52:14 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Mr. Luddite



Censure is defined as a formal, and public, group condemnation of an
individual, often a group member, whose actions run counter to the
group's acceptable standards for individual behavior.

In the United States, governmental censure is done when a body's members
wish to publicly reprimand the President of the United States, a member
of Congress, a judge or a cabinet member. It is a formal statement of
disapproval.

Nancy Pelosi certainly qualifies to be formally censured for
tearing up her copy of the SOTU address on national television,
especially in a formal, joint session of Congress.
/——


I thought the spoiled brat scene she made was pretty tacky myself


It certainly makes it clear these are not the adults in the room.
The Democrat majority will never vote for censure tho.


Saw that Trump refused to shake Pelosi's hand before he started
speaking. Luddite didn't mention that.

He didn't shake Pence's hand either. Trump has always avoided it.
Germs you know ;-)

The Dems don't have the majority in the Senate. Doubt they will revisit
that possibility in the House. Like to see more charges there and more
investigations.


You really can't have a successful impeachment without a super
majority in the Senate. A Johnson was close but they had excluded
almost all of the former confederate states from the process.
(Tennessee was the exception because they were seen as being
successfully reconstructed).
Romney was the first person to actually cross party lines in an
impeachment. It is yet to be seen if he pays a political price. but
2024 is a long ways away.


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