- show quoted text -
I saw that the Navy is going back to teaching celestial navigation to
their crews so somebody must think it is important. I suppose someone
pointed out the GPS satellites might only last a couple days in a real
war.
..........
I’d heard Morse code is coming back too. Even for military pilots. I’d think it’s a good deal

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:05:50 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


- show quoted text -
I saw that the Navy is going back to teaching celestial navigation to
their crews so somebody must think it is important. I suppose someone
pointed out the GPS satellites might only last a couple days in a real
war.
.........
I’d heard Morse code is coming back too. Even for military pilots. I’d think it’s a good deal

===

SW Tom will be thrilled.

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:05:50 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


- show quoted text -
I saw that the Navy is going back to teaching celestial navigation to
their crews so somebody must think it is important. I suppose someone
pointed out the GPS satellites might only last a couple days in a real
war.
.........
I’d heard Morse code is coming back too. Even for military pilots. I’d think it’s a good deal

I bet "flashing light" could still be handy in this age of stealth
ships. You light yourself up as soon as you key a mike.
I bet they also have a laser high speed link they can establish
between ships. There is no hardware reason not to. Sampling the stable
element signal from the fire control system along with a feedback
loop, would allow you to keep the laser on target in the roughest
seas.

On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 15:54:05 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:05:50 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


- show quoted text -
I saw that the Navy is going back to teaching celestial navigation to
their crews so somebody must think it is important. I suppose someone
pointed out the GPS satellites might only last a couple days in a real
war.
.........
I’d heard Morse code is coming back too. Even for military pilots. I’d think it’s a good deal

I bet "flashing light" could still be handy in this age of stealth
ships. You light yourself up as soon as you key a mike.
I bet they also have a laser high speed link they can establish
between ships. There is no hardware reason not to. Sampling the stable
element signal from the fire control system along with a feedback
loop, would allow you to keep the laser on target in the roughest
seas.

===

It's entirely possible but probably secret if it exists. I'd use an
infrared laser that would be invisible to the human eye.

On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 00:03:29 -0500,
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 15:54:05 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:05:50 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


- show quoted text -
I saw that the Navy is going back to teaching celestial navigation to
their crews so somebody must think it is important. I suppose someone
pointed out the GPS satellites might only last a couple days in a real
war.
.........
I’d heard Morse code is coming back too. Even for military pilots. I’d think it’s a good deal

I bet "flashing light" could still be handy in this age of stealth
ships. You light yourself up as soon as you key a mike.
I bet they also have a laser high speed link they can establish
between ships. There is no hardware reason not to. Sampling the stable
element signal from the fire control system along with a feedback
loop, would allow you to keep the laser on target in the roughest
seas.

===

It's entirely possible but probably secret if it exists. I'd use an
infrared laser that would be invisible to the human eye.

The idea of light based data channels is no secret. They just have not
gained as wide acceptance as 2.4gz. The potential bandwidth is
actually greater and they do use IR. I agree I don't remember hearing
about the Navy using it but it seems too good to ignore.

Tim wrote:

- show quoted text -
I saw that the Navy is going back to teaching celestial navigation to
their crews so somebody must think it is important. I suppose someone
pointed out the GPS satellites might only last a couple days in a real
war.
.........
I’d heard Morse code is coming back too. Even for military pilots. I’d
think it’s a good deal


You always had to learn Morse as a military pilot. Just not very fast. As
the identifiers on navigation aids was Morse. When I worked on TACAN, we
just looked at the tabs to make sure it was set up correctly.

On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 05:22:03 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Tim wrote:

- show quoted text -
I saw that the Navy is going back to teaching celestial navigation to
their crews so somebody must think it is important. I suppose someone
pointed out the GPS satellites might only last a couple days in a real
war.
.........
I’d heard Morse code is coming back too. Even for military pilots. I’d
think it’s a good deal


You always had to learn Morse as a military pilot. Just not very fast. As
the identifiers on navigation aids was Morse. When I worked on TACAN, we
just looked at the tabs to make sure it was set up correctly.

We had to be able to copy 6 WPM in boot camp.

On 1/4/20 11:01 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 05:22:03 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Tim wrote:

- show quoted text -
I saw that the Navy is going back to teaching celestial navigation to
their crews so somebody must think it is important. I suppose someone
pointed out the GPS satellites might only last a couple days in a real
war.
.........
I’d heard Morse code is coming back too. Even for military pilots. I’d
think it’s a good deal


You always had to learn Morse as a military pilot. Just not very fast. As
the identifiers on navigation aids was Morse. When I worked on TACAN, we
just looked at the tabs to make sure it was set up correctly.

We had to be able to copy 6 WPM in boot camp.


Learning Morse was part of some Scout merit badge I earned. Flag
signaling was part of it, too. We practiced flag waving at a week-long
Scout camp I attended. When we got home, our moms hosed the dirt off us.
Great time. I was 12 or 13.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/4/20 11:01 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 05:22:03 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Tim wrote:

- show quoted text -
I saw that the Navy is going back to teaching celestial navigation to
their crews so somebody must think it is important. I suppose someone
pointed out the GPS satellites might only last a couple days in a real
war.
.........
I’d heard Morse code is coming back too. Even for military
pilots. I’d
think it’s a good deal


You always had to learn Morse as a military pilot. Just not very
fast. As
the identifiers on navigation aids was Morse. When I worked on
TACAN, we
just looked at the tabs to make sure it was set up correctly.

We had to be able to copy 6 WPM in boot camp.


Learning Morse was part of some Scout merit badge I earned. Flag
signaling was part of it, too. We practiced flag waving at a week-long
Scout camp I attended. When we got home, our moms hosed the dirt off
us. Great time. I was 12 or 13.

Did you teach it to your son?