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Sold my Akoustis (AKTS)
On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 13:05:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 11/8/2019 12:02 PM, wrote: On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:29:19 -0500, Alex wrote: wrote: Stock has not been behaving well lately and I decided to take my profits and run. I still like Skyworks (SWKS) however. I'm accumulating DISH. === Unless DISH gets into the 5G business I think they'll lose their competitive advantage over time. It seems likely to me that the future of home entertainment is with high speed internet streaming. The question is who will be best positioned for delivery. Based on what I've read it will be a while before 5G becomes available in rural areas. High density, city markets will be getting it first. It's already available in sections of about 30 cities nationwide. It will also require consumers to upgrade to new devices capable of processing 5G and I suspect they won't be cheap. But, in time, it certainly appears to be the future, putting cable, fios, Dish and Direct TV on the heap of obsolete technologies. Someone here thinks fiber is not going anywhere. I stopped and talked to the guys putting that fiber in up the street from and Hotwire is bringing fiber to the home in the gated community up the street from me. They say phase 2 will be to do the rest of us. I didn't even know Hotwire was in the fiber business. They may end up renting space to Comcast because Comcast is still on copper on that street as far as I know. OTOH 5G is a fiber network with RF covering the last quarter mile or so from what I understand. The Telco fiber ends about a mile from me as the wire runs although I think it might actually go farther down the road. That is just where the big silver box is, that looks like the central office. |
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Sold my Akoustis (AKTS)
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2019 12:02 PM, wrote: On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:29:19 -0500, Alex wrote: wrote: Stock has not been behaving well lately and I decided to take my profits and run. I still like Skyworks (SWKS) however. I'm accumulating DISH. === Unless DISH gets into the 5G business I think they'll lose their competitive advantage over time. It seems likely to me that the future of home entertainment is with high speed internet streaming. The question is who will be best positioned for delivery. Based on what I've read it will be a while before 5G becomes available in rural areas. High density, city markets will be getting it first. It's already available in sections of about 30 cities nationwide. It will also require consumers to upgrade to new devices capable of processing 5G and I suspect they won't be cheap. But, in time, it certainly appears to be the future, putting cable, fios, Dish and Direct TV on the heap of obsolete technologies. DISH is in the 5G business and just hired some "experts" to help. We'll see. |
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On 11/8/2019 1:48 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 1:05:55 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2019 12:02 PM, wrote: On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:29:19 -0500, Alex wrote: wrote: Stock has not been behaving well lately and I decided to take my profits and run. I still like Skyworks (SWKS) however. I'm accumulating DISH. === Unless DISH gets into the 5G business I think they'll lose their competitive advantage over time. It seems likely to me that the future of home entertainment is with high speed internet streaming. The question is who will be best positioned for delivery. Based on what I've read it will be a while before 5G becomes available in rural areas. High density, city markets will be getting it first. It's already available in sections of about 30 cities nationwide. It will also require consumers to upgrade to new devices capable of processing 5G and I suspect they won't be cheap. But, in time, it certainly appears to be the future, putting cable, fios, Dish and Direct TV on the heap of obsolete technologies. 5G is deployed in three different bands... low, mid, and high. Low band is the slowest but each cell has a large footprint. It's what 4G/LTE uses now for the most part. Mid band is, well, in the middle. It's the high band 5G that is blazing fast with ultra-low latency, but each cell only covers about a square mile, it doesn't penetrate walls very well, and even trees can mess up your signal. It will take years to get 5G coverage past suburban areas out to the more rural ones, and right now most cable data rates are faster than low band 5G. I think cable/fiber will be around for a long time in the suburban to rural areas. Besides, the data rate on my cable service has tripled in the last 2-3 years when they went all digital (no more TV channel RF), and a tech told me it would double again soon, all at no additional cost to me. "Low-band spectrum can also be described as sub 1GHz spectrum. It is primarily the spectrum band used by carriers in the U.S. for LTE, and is quickly becoming depleted. While low-band spectrum offers great coverage area and penetration, there is a big drawback: Peak data speeds will top out around 100Mbps." https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/what-is-5g/ Comcast has been "upping" cable data rates in my area over the past four years. The basic, lowest cost service was originally 15Mbs, then went to 25Mbs and is now 50Mbps(download). For most home users, this is more than adequate for multiple devices and for streaming videos or TV. The service I have has been upped from 75Mbps to an advertised 105Mbps. I probably don't need it but the additional cost is minimal and there was no price increase when they upped it from 75Mbps. Comcast also advertises about four higher data rate services ranging up to 2000 Mbps (both download and upload) but these are designed for commercial, heavy use customers. |
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Sold my Akoustis (AKTS)
On 11/8/2019 3:33 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 3:21:00 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:48:18 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 1:05:55 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2019 12:02 PM, wrote: On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:29:19 -0500, Alex wrote: wrote: Stock has not been behaving well lately and I decided to take my profits and run. I still like Skyworks (SWKS) however. I'm accumulating DISH. === Unless DISH gets into the 5G business I think they'll lose their competitive advantage over time. It seems likely to me that the future of home entertainment is with high speed internet streaming. The question is who will be best positioned for delivery. Based on what I've read it will be a while before 5G becomes available in rural areas. High density, city markets will be getting it first. It's already available in sections of about 30 cities nationwide. It will also require consumers to upgrade to new devices capable of processing 5G and I suspect they won't be cheap. But, in time, it certainly appears to be the future, putting cable, fios, Dish and Direct TV on the heap of obsolete technologies. 5G is deployed in three different bands... low, mid, and high. Low band is the slowest but each cell has a large footprint. It's what 4G/LTE uses now for the most part. Mid band is, well, in the middle. It's the high band 5G that is blazing fast with ultra-low latency, but each cell only covers about a square mile, it doesn't penetrate walls very well, and even trees can mess up your signal. It will take years to get 5G coverage past suburban areas out to the more rural ones, and right now most cable data rates are faster than low band 5G. I think cable/fiber will be around for a long time in the suburban to rural areas. Besides, the data rate on my cable service has tripled in the last 2-3 years when they went all digital (no more TV channel RF), and a tech told me it would double again soon, all at no additional cost to me. "Low-band spectrum can also be described as sub 1GHz spectrum. It is primarily the spectrum band used by carriers in the U.S. for LTE, and is quickly becoming depleted. While low-band spectrum offers great coverage area and penetration, there is a big drawback: Peak data speeds will top out around 100Mbps." https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/what-is-5g/ === Ultimately the non-urban areas will be served by low earth satellite swarms like the Starlink system that Space-X (Elon Musk) is planning. I'm eagerly awaiting to have that on the boat, hopefully at a reasonable price, but anything will be more reasonable than the current satellite internet providers. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/05/spacex-satellites-starlink/590269/ Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if he can solve the 2 big problems with satellite based service... expensive and slow. Can you get decent satellite TV service on a boat? I would think that underway wouldn't be possible, but when anchored or in a marina can the auto tracking on a dish compensate for boat movement? I never had one but had friends that had auto-tracking dish systems on their boats. They seemed to work well while underway in the limited areas in which I witnessed them. I was El-Cheapo on my boats. I bought a portable dish designed for RV use and mounted it on the upper deck behind the flybridge. I used it regularly while at the slip for several years on the Navigator and also on another boat I had briefly after we sold it. It worked amazingly well, even in windy and choppy days with the boat moving around in the slip and going through high and low tide cycles where the boat moved upward or downward as much as 9-10 feet. It was very rare that the signal briefly became too weak to interrupt the programming. |
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"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 11/8/2019 3:33 PM, Its Me wrote: On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 3:21:00 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:48:18 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 1:05:55 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2019 12:02 PM, wrote: On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:29:19 -0500, Alex wrote: wrote: Stock has not been behaving well lately and I decided to take my profits and run. I still like Skyworks (SWKS) however. I'm accumulating DISH. === Unless DISH gets into the 5G business I think they'll lose their competitive advantage over time. It seems likely to me that the future of home entertainment is with high speed internet streaming. The question is who will be best positioned for delivery. Based on what I've read it will be a while before 5G becomes available in rural areas. High density, city markets will be getting it first. It's already available in sections of about 30 cities nationwide. It will also require consumers to upgrade to new devices capable of processing 5G and I suspect they won't be cheap. But, in time, it certainly appears to be the future, putting cable, fios, Dish and Direct TV on the heap of obsolete technologies. 5G is deployed in three different bands... low, mid, and high. Low band is the slowest but each cell has a large footprint. It's what 4G/LTE uses now for the most part. Mid band is, well, in the middle. It's the high band 5G that is blazing fast with ultra-low latency, but each cell only covers about a square mile, it doesn't penetrate walls very well, and even trees can mess up your signal. It will take years to get 5G coverage past suburban areas out to the more rural ones, and right now most cable data rates are faster than low band 5G. I think cable/fiber will be around for a long time in the suburban to rural areas. Besides, the data rate on my cable service has tripled in the last 2-3 years when they went all digital (no more TV channel RF), and a tech told me it would double again soon, all at no additional cost to me. "Low-band spectrum can also be described as sub 1GHz spectrum. It is primarily the spectrum band used by carriers in the U.S. for LTE, and is quickly becoming depleted. While low-band spectrum offers great coverage area and penetration, there is a big drawback: Peak data speeds will top out around 100Mbps." https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/what-is-5g/ === Ultimately the non-urban areas will be served by low earth satellite swarms like the Starlink system that Space-X (Elon Musk) is planning. I'm eagerly awaiting to have that on the boat, hopefully at a reasonable price, but anything will be more reasonable than the current satellite internet providers. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/05/spacex-satellites-starlink/590269/ Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if he can solve the 2 big problems with satellite based service... expensive and slow. Can you get decent satellite TV service on a boat? I would think that underway wouldn't be possible, but when anchored or in a marina can the auto tracking on a dish compensate for boat movement? I never had one but had friends that had auto-tracking dish systems on their boats. They seemed to work well while underway in the limited areas in which I witnessed them.I was El-Cheapo on my boats. I bought a portable dish designed for RV use and mounted it on the upper deck behind the flybridge. I used itregularly while at the slip for several years on the Navigator and alsoon another boat I had briefly after we sold it. It worked amazingly well, even in windy and choppy days with the boat moving around in theslip and going through high and low tide cycles where the boat movedupward or downward as much as 9-10 feet. Became too weak to interrupt the programming. I have an auto tracking system on my "boat". It seems to aquire sattelites ok. Having OTA, my wifi hotspot, blue ray discs, and often campground wifi available, saves me from having to rely on sattelite. I have it because it was part of the tech package I bought with my unit, and the reciever was only $75 at camping world. The service is about $50 a month for the months I choose to activate it. Wifi streaming seems to work well down to about 3mps. -- .. ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Saturday, November 9, 2019 at 7:26:13 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2019 3:33 PM, Its Me wrote: On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 3:21:00 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:48:18 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 1:05:55 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2019 12:02 PM, wrote: On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:29:19 -0500, Alex wrote: wrote: Stock has not been behaving well lately and I decided to take my profits and run. I still like Skyworks (SWKS) however. I'm accumulating DISH. === Unless DISH gets into the 5G business I think they'll lose their competitive advantage over time. It seems likely to me that the future of home entertainment is with high speed internet streaming. The question is who will be best positioned for delivery. Based on what I've read it will be a while before 5G becomes available in rural areas. High density, city markets will be getting it first.. It's already available in sections of about 30 cities nationwide. It will also require consumers to upgrade to new devices capable of processing 5G and I suspect they won't be cheap. But, in time, it certainly appears to be the future, putting cable, fios, Dish and Direct TV on the heap of obsolete technologies. 5G is deployed in three different bands... low, mid, and high. Low band is the slowest but each cell has a large footprint. It's what 4G/LTE uses now for the most part. Mid band is, well, in the middle. It's the high band 5G that is blazing fast with ultra-low latency, but each cell only covers about a square mile, it doesn't penetrate walls very well, and even trees can mess up your signal. It will take years to get 5G coverage past suburban areas out to the more rural ones, and right now most cable data rates are faster than low band 5G. I think cable/fiber will be around for a long time in the suburban to rural areas. Besides, the data rate on my cable service has tripled in the last 2-3 years when they went all digital (no more TV channel RF), and a tech told me it would double again soon, all at no additional cost to me. "Low-band spectrum can also be described as sub 1GHz spectrum. It is primarily the spectrum band used by carriers in the U.S. for LTE, and is quickly becoming depleted. While low-band spectrum offers great coverage area and penetration, there is a big drawback: Peak data speeds will top out around 100Mbps." https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/what-is-5g/ === Ultimately the non-urban areas will be served by low earth satellite swarms like the Starlink system that Space-X (Elon Musk) is planning. I'm eagerly awaiting to have that on the boat, hopefully at a reasonable price, but anything will be more reasonable than the current satellite internet providers. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/05/spacex-satellites-starlink/590269/ Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if he can solve the 2 big problems with satellite based service... expensive and slow. Can you get decent satellite TV service on a boat? I would think that underway wouldn't be possible, but when anchored or in a marina can the auto tracking on a dish compensate for boat movement? I never had one but had friends that had auto-tracking dish systems on their boats. They seemed to work well while underway in the limited areas in which I witnessed them. I was El-Cheapo on my boats. I bought a portable dish designed for RV use and mounted it on the upper deck behind the flybridge. I used it regularly while at the slip for several years on the Navigator and also on another boat I had briefly after we sold it. It worked amazingly well, even in windy and choppy days with the boat moving around in the slip and going through high and low tide cycles where the boat moved upward or downward as much as 9-10 feet. It was very rare that the signal briefly became too weak to interrupt the programming. Interesting, thanks. |
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On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 4:52:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 12:33:13 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 3:21:00 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:48:18 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 1:05:55 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2019 12:02 PM, wrote: On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:29:19 -0500, Alex wrote: wrote: Stock has not been behaving well lately and I decided to take my profits and run. I still like Skyworks (SWKS) however. I'm accumulating DISH. === Unless DISH gets into the 5G business I think they'll lose their competitive advantage over time. It seems likely to me that the future of home entertainment is with high speed internet streaming. The question is who will be best positioned for delivery. Based on what I've read it will be a while before 5G becomes available in rural areas. High density, city markets will be getting it first. |
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