On 2/13/2019 8:07 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 07:29:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/13/2019 6:55 AM, John H. wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:03:41 -0500, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
The John flushes his head
- show quoted text -
"I'lll pick it up Thursday. Don't be too jealous, Donnie. Here, you can look and eat your little
heart out. Let Lora see it too!

https://allentown.craigslist.org/mcd/d/coopersburg-2010-honda-silverwing-600/6812030435.html"


John, I think I recall reading that you said you put a deposit on the
Silverwing to "hold" it and if you decided against purchasing after
seeing it your deposit would be returned.

That's fine if the seller agreed but it's
something I never really understood about deposits, especially those
made sight unseen. Why should a seller agree to hold an item,
making it unavailable (lost opportunity) to other potential buyers and
then return the good faith deposit if the buyer changes his/her mind.

I always treated a deposit made under that kind of circumstance
as being subject to forfeit if the buyer changed his/her mind.

Happened a few times when I had the guitar shop. Guy would come
in, fall in love with a guitar but didn't have the $$ to purchase
at the time. If he put a deposit on it, I'd agree to hold it for
a specific period of time (usually no more than a week or two) after
which it would be made available for sale again to anyone. If the
buyer decided *not* to purchase after the time period I said I'd
hold it, his deposit was subject to being forfeited, depending on
my mood at the time and his reason.

I had one situation where a guy put $100 down on a $2,800 guitar
and showed up *six* months later to complete the purchase.
The guitar was long gone by then and the guy *demanded* his
$100 back. Told him to take a hike, mostly because of his
attitude, not the $100.


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I expect you're right, there's really no reason for the dealer to return my deposit. It's just a
matter of trust. I asked him if I could change my mind and get the deposit back if there was
something I didn't like or if it didn't 'fit'. He said there'd be no problem. I agree that if he
changed his mind, I'd lose the deposit. But, I'm not worried about it. The main thing I wanted was
for him to hold the bike until I got there. The guy I talked with is the owner of the dealership,
and sounded trustworthy. (And my have things like Google reviews, Yelp, Facebook, etc. on his mind!)

Like you, there are a few trustworthy folks who sell stuff! Besides, I can't imagine not liking the
bike. I've been looking at them for several years now, and this is the nicest one with the lowest
mileage I've seen.



Yeah, the Silverwings are hard to find. I looked also last summer.

My comments were not about *your* arrangement with the dealer; they
were more general in nature regarding deposits. If he agreed, no
problem exists.

There are a lot of people who put down a small deposit
on something and then expect to get it back if they change their mind.
That's not fair to the seller unless he/she agrees to it.

Selling on Craigslist was a pain in the ass for me and I stopped
using it because people would schedule a visit and then never
show up. For the short period of time I tried using Craigslist
I made it clear that it was "first come, first served".

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
"Yeah, the Silverwings are hard to find. I looked also last summer.

My comments were not about *your* arrangement with the dealer; they
were more general in nature regarding deposits. If he agreed, no
problem exists.

There are a lot of people who put down a small deposit
on something and then expect to get it back if they change their mind.
That's not fair to the seller unless he/she agrees to it.
Selling on Craigslist was a pain in the ass for me and I stopped
using it because people would schedule a visit and then never
show up. For the short period of time I tried using Craigslist
I made it clear that it was "first come, first served"."


Bingo!
That's the way I call it if I sell anything on
Kijiji.
First one with the cash in hand gets the goods.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 09:25:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/13/2019 8:07 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 07:29:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/13/2019 6:55 AM, John H. wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:03:41 -0500, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
The John flushes his head
- show quoted text -
"I'lll pick it up Thursday. Don't be too jealous, Donnie. Here, you can look and eat your little
heart out. Let Lora see it too!

https://allentown.craigslist.org/mcd/d/coopersburg-2010-honda-silverwing-600/6812030435.html"


John, I think I recall reading that you said you put a deposit on the
Silverwing to "hold" it and if you decided against purchasing after
seeing it your deposit would be returned.

That's fine if the seller agreed but it's
something I never really understood about deposits, especially those
made sight unseen. Why should a seller agree to hold an item,
making it unavailable (lost opportunity) to other potential buyers and
then return the good faith deposit if the buyer changes his/her mind.

I always treated a deposit made under that kind of circumstance
as being subject to forfeit if the buyer changed his/her mind.

Happened a few times when I had the guitar shop. Guy would come
in, fall in love with a guitar but didn't have the $$ to purchase
at the time. If he put a deposit on it, I'd agree to hold it for
a specific period of time (usually no more than a week or two) after
which it would be made available for sale again to anyone. If the
buyer decided *not* to purchase after the time period I said I'd
hold it, his deposit was subject to being forfeited, depending on
my mood at the time and his reason.

I had one situation where a guy put $100 down on a $2,800 guitar
and showed up *six* months later to complete the purchase.
The guitar was long gone by then and the guy *demanded* his
$100 back. Told him to take a hike, mostly because of his
attitude, not the $100.


---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

I expect you're right, there's really no reason for the dealer to return my deposit. It's just a
matter of trust. I asked him if I could change my mind and get the deposit back if there was
something I didn't like or if it didn't 'fit'. He said there'd be no problem. I agree that if he
changed his mind, I'd lose the deposit. But, I'm not worried about it. The main thing I wanted was
for him to hold the bike until I got there. The guy I talked with is the owner of the dealership,
and sounded trustworthy. (And my have things like Google reviews, Yelp, Facebook, etc. on his mind!)

Like you, there are a few trustworthy folks who sell stuff! Besides, I can't imagine not liking the
bike. I've been looking at them for several years now, and this is the nicest one with the lowest
mileage I've seen.



Yeah, the Silverwings are hard to find. I looked also last summer.

My comments were not about *your* arrangement with the dealer; they
were more general in nature regarding deposits. If he agreed, no
problem exists.

There are a lot of people who put down a small deposit
on something and then expect to get it back if they change their mind.
That's not fair to the seller unless he/she agrees to it.

Selling on Craigslist was a pain in the ass for me and I stopped
using it because people would schedule a visit and then never
show up. For the short period of time I tried using Craigslist
I made it clear that it was "first come, first served".




I initially found the scoot on Craigslist, but the dealer's name was there also. So I went to the
dealer's site to make contact with them. Craigslist did have a lot more pictures of the scoot
though.

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
Yeah, the Silverwings are hard to find. I looked also last summer.

My comments were not about *your* arrangement with the dealer; they
were more general in nature regarding deposits. If he agreed, no
problem exists.

There are a lot of people who put down a small deposit
on something and then expect to get it back if they change their mind.
That's not fair to the seller unless he/she agrees to it.

Selling on Craigslist was a pain in the ass for me and I stopped
using it because people would schedule a visit and then never
show up. For the short period of time I tried using Craigslist
I made it clear that it was "first come, first served".

......

“No show� is aggravating. On a side note, Over the years I’ve put stipulations in service. I quit saying “I’m open till 5:30� and started saying “i’m Leaving at 5:30�

That changes the game.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 09:25:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/13/2019 8:07 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 07:29:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/13/2019 6:55 AM, John H. wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:03:41 -0500, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
The John flushes his head
- show quoted text -
"I'lll pick it up Thursday. Don't be too jealous, Donnie. Here, you can look and eat your little
heart out. Let Lora see it too!

https://allentown.craigslist.org/mcd/d/coopersburg-2010-honda-silverwing-600/6812030435.html"


John, I think I recall reading that you said you put a deposit on the
Silverwing to "hold" it and if you decided against purchasing after
seeing it your deposit would be returned.

That's fine if the seller agreed but it's
something I never really understood about deposits, especially those
made sight unseen. Why should a seller agree to hold an item,
making it unavailable (lost opportunity) to other potential buyers and
then return the good faith deposit if the buyer changes his/her mind.

I always treated a deposit made under that kind of circumstance
as being subject to forfeit if the buyer changed his/her mind.

Happened a few times when I had the guitar shop. Guy would come
in, fall in love with a guitar but didn't have the $$ to purchase
at the time. If he put a deposit on it, I'd agree to hold it for
a specific period of time (usually no more than a week or two) after
which it would be made available for sale again to anyone. If the
buyer decided *not* to purchase after the time period I said I'd
hold it, his deposit was subject to being forfeited, depending on
my mood at the time and his reason.

I had one situation where a guy put $100 down on a $2,800 guitar
and showed up *six* months later to complete the purchase.
The guitar was long gone by then and the guy *demanded* his
$100 back. Told him to take a hike, mostly because of his
attitude, not the $100.


---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

I expect you're right, there's really no reason for the dealer to return my deposit. It's just a
matter of trust. I asked him if I could change my mind and get the deposit back if there was
something I didn't like or if it didn't 'fit'. He said there'd be no problem. I agree that if he
changed his mind, I'd lose the deposit. But, I'm not worried about it. The main thing I wanted was
for him to hold the bike until I got there. The guy I talked with is the owner of the dealership,
and sounded trustworthy. (And my have things like Google reviews, Yelp, Facebook, etc. on his mind!)

Like you, there are a few trustworthy folks who sell stuff! Besides, I can't imagine not liking the
bike. I've been looking at them for several years now, and this is the nicest one with the lowest
mileage I've seen.



Yeah, the Silverwings are hard to find. I looked also last summer.

My comments were not about *your* arrangement with the dealer; they
were more general in nature regarding deposits. If he agreed, no
problem exists.

There are a lot of people who put down a small deposit
on something and then expect to get it back if they change their mind.
That's not fair to the seller unless he/she agrees to it.

Selling on Craigslist was a pain in the ass for me and I stopped
using it because people would schedule a visit and then never
show up. For the short period of time I tried using Craigslist
I made it clear that it was "first come, first served".

I have only sold a few things successfully on Craigslist (Notably my
burned up Harley and that shed/playhouse) but it is great for giving
things away.
One of my best experiences was with a bunch of that quartz counter top
I had. A black/hispanic lady from Lehigh came by to haul it away. She
was remodeling a kitchen and she said this was perfect for her. I did
cut a couple pieces to size for her and she left us with 2 giant bags
of fresh produce. I thought that was a heluva deal.

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:03:41 -0500, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
The John flushes his head
- show quoted text -
"I'lll pick it up Thursday. Don't be too jealous, Donnie. Here, you can look and eat your little
heart out. Let Lora see it too!

https://allentown.craigslist.org/mcd/d/coopersburg-2010-honda-silverwing-600/6812030435.html"



You bought it without trying it out?
What's that saying about 'a fool and his money are soon parted'??
Are you kidding? You are the dumbest person on the earth when it comes
to buying anything. How many ****ty boats have you purchased? Didn't
one literally fall apart? You are the fool, Donald White.
You would think that boy would learn.

He can't.