On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 11:44:18 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 12/8/18 10:40 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 07:57:58 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

Some time ago, B'rer Fretwell convinced me that my choice of a .357 MAG
revolver was the *wrong* firearm for the night table, because if I ever
had to use it, even if I hit the intruder, everyone else would be
rendered deaf, the rounds are so loud. I thought about this for a while,
and tested Fretwell's theory at the indoor and outdoor ranges I
frequent. Without muffs.

As much as I hate to admit it, Fretwell was right this one time.

So, I sold the revolver to a buddy for a good price and he also bought
my Henry Big Boy .357 MAG rifle I just wasn't using. I used some of the
proceeds to pick up a 9mm Walther PPQ M2 TAC, shown in the accompanying
photo I swiped from a Walther site. With a suppressor fitted, it's not
much louder than a .22LR that's been "suppressor-ized," and therefore
usable inside without fear of rendering anyone deaf. It's the same
suppressor I used on my 9mm CZ Scorpion Carbine.

I'm going to fit a small "tactical" light to the rails on the underside
of the lower.

New pistol has a pretty nice trigger and appears to be accurate. I got
the "Maryland" version, with three 10-round mags. Mine has the Vortex
Venom red dot attached, looks pretty much like the red dot sight in
Walther's photo.

https://flic.kr/p/RieMq7


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You go to an indoor range that will allow you to shoot without muffs?

Right.


No, W'hine, I don't. But it is no biggy to slip the muffs up and uncover
your ears for a shot and then slip them down. Even an unimaginative
asshole like you could probably do it. Well, maybe, if you had help.

I suppose the question would be why. Those things are murder on your
ears outside and every insult to your ears will hurt you later.
Sometimes you just have to believe. ;-)

I never fired a round of anything in my range in Md without muffs.
I was in the house when we had an AD of a 12 gauge tho and it was
impressive.

On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:40:18 -0500, wrote:

I never fired a round of anything in my range in Md without muffs.
I was in the house when we had an AD of a 12 gauge tho and it was
impressive.

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That must have been an exciting WTF moment. Can we ask how it
happened?

That sori of thing certainly highlights the wisdom of always pointing
in a safe direction, and treating it like it is loaded (since
sometimes it is).

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+On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 23:32:09 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:40:18 -0500, wrote:

I never fired a round of anything in my range in Md without muffs.
I was in the house when we had an AD of a 12 gauge tho and it was
impressive.

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That must have been an exciting WTF moment. Can we ask how it
happened?

That sori of thing certainly highlights the wisdom of always pointing
in a safe direction, and treating it like it is loaded (since
sometimes it is).


My buddy picked up my 97 Winchester and racked it. He didn't
understand it did not have a disconnector. It was pointed in a safe
direction but I did have a pretty big drywall patch to do. It would
have been worse if he didn't hit a stud.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 15:24:55 -0500, wrote:

+On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 23:32:09 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:40:18 -0500, wrote:

I never fired a round of anything in my range in Md without muffs.
I was in the house when we had an AD of a 12 gauge tho and it was
impressive.

===

That must have been an exciting WTF moment. Can we ask how it
happened?

That sori of thing certainly highlights the wisdom of always pointing
in a safe direction, and treating it like it is loaded (since
sometimes it is).


My buddy picked up my 97 Winchester and racked it. He didn't
understand it did not have a disconnector. It was pointed in a safe
direction but I did have a pretty big drywall patch to do. It would
have been worse if he didn't hit a stud.


===

It fired without a trigger pull? That would be scary as ****.

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On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 23:20:30 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 15:24:55 -0500, wrote:

+On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 23:32:09 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:40:18 -0500, wrote:

I never fired a round of anything in my range in Md without muffs.
I was in the house when we had an AD of a 12 gauge tho and it was
impressive.

===

That must have been an exciting WTF moment. Can we ask how it
happened?

That sori of thing certainly highlights the wisdom of always pointing
in a safe direction, and treating it like it is loaded (since
sometimes it is).


My buddy picked up my 97 Winchester and racked it. He didn't
understand it did not have a disconnector. It was pointed in a safe
direction but I did have a pretty big drywall patch to do. It would
have been worse if he didn't hit a stud.


===

It fired without a trigger pull? That would be scary as ****.


There is no disconnector so if you have your finger on the trigger it
goes off as soon as the bolt goes into battery. You can certainly get
a lot of lead down range in a hurry tho. The guys in the Winchester
demo teams were hitting targets faster than the guys using
autoloaders.

Dec
- show quoted text -
I suppose the question would be why. Those things are murder on your
ears outside and every insult to your ears will hurt you later.
Sometimes you just have to believe. ;-)

I never fired a round of anything in my range in Md without muffs.
I was in the house when we had an AD of a 12 gauge tho and it was
impressive.
.......
40 years ago I lived in an old farm house and shot my 357 into a big block of wood at the bottom of an enclosed stairwell. All I heard was an enormously loud “BONK!!!�

I thought the precession had blown both eardrums-thankfully not. But I’ve had a subtle hissing in both ears even to this day.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 11:37:51 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


Dec
- show quoted text -
I suppose the question would be why. Those things are murder on your
ears outside and every insult to your ears will hurt you later.
Sometimes you just have to believe. ;-)

I never fired a round of anything in my range in Md without muffs.
I was in the house when we had an AD of a 12 gauge tho and it was
impressive.
......
40 years ago I lived in an old farm house and shot my 357 into a big block of wood at the bottom of an enclosed stairwell. All I heard was an enormously loud “BONK!!!�

I thought the precession had blown both eardrums-thankfully not. But I’ve had a subtle hissing in both ears even to this day.

That is why I have to call bull**** when I see Dirty Harry shooting
that 29 Smith in that concrete walk way at the stadium.
He would be "Dirty Huh?" for the rest of his life. My buddy's 29 took
pictures off the wall when we fired it in my basement, using plugs and
muffs. It felt like getting smacked in the face with a wet towel. A 12
gauge was mild compared to that.