On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:18:37 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 11/2/18 11:47 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/1/18 11:09 PM, Tim wrote:

8:31
- show quoted text -
Where you are, you could be shooting one hole groups ... or you could
find another range that reaches out a little farther.
The most I ever wanted to achieve was hitting a rabbit or squirrel in
the head at 50-75 yards and I an not even interested in that anymore.
I still like breaking claybirds on a skeet range and I want to
maintain my "point and shoot" skills with my handguns but beyond that
I am not much of a shooter these days. There is a guy who wants to
trade me a NorChinko M14 and a bunch of money (He says a grand, I say
$1500) for my M1A and I might do it. Either would be sitting in my
safe and he says the M14 shoots as well as I would ever need.
I am just not sure what a pre-ban M1A is worth.
......


Well without looking hard, Cabella’s sells a brand new Remington M1A for
$1,699.00 and whatever other charges



Some of the reviews I've looked at recently about current production
Springfield M1A's are giving them "thumbs down" for accuracy. $1700 is a
lot of dinero for a rifle that might or might not do a 1" MOA or better
at 100 yards. Even some cheapo ($800 or so) .308 AR-type rifles can do
that.

How much does an M1A weigh with a reasonably sized mag and a scope?


If I am target shooting, a heavy rifle is preferable. Dampen the kick.
Put the AR style recoil system on a heavy rifle, and sweet to shoot.
Humping through a jungle, light weight is preferable.


The M1A does not have an "AR style" recoil system. My new .308 has an AR
style recoil system, but I haven't shot it yet. I do have a "fancy"
muzzle device for it that is supposed to control muzzle flip and recoil.
We will see. With the optic and bipod, I'm guessing a weight of 9 to 9.5
pounds for the rifle. It's got an 18" "heavy barrel."


===

After shooting a few boxes of 308 through it, you'll wish the barrel
was twice as heavy.

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On 11/2/18 4:33 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:18:37 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 11/2/18 11:47 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/1/18 11:09 PM, Tim wrote:

8:31
- show quoted text -
Where you are, you could be shooting one hole groups ... or you could
find another range that reaches out a little farther.
The most I ever wanted to achieve was hitting a rabbit or squirrel in
the head at 50-75 yards and I an not even interested in that anymore.
I still like breaking claybirds on a skeet range and I want to
maintain my "point and shoot" skills with my handguns but beyond that
I am not much of a shooter these days. There is a guy who wants to
trade me a NorChinko M14 and a bunch of money (He says a grand, I say
$1500) for my M1A and I might do it. Either would be sitting in my
safe and he says the M14 shoots as well as I would ever need.
I am just not sure what a pre-ban M1A is worth.
......


Well without looking hard, Cabella’s sells a brand new Remington M1A for
$1,699.00 and whatever other charges



Some of the reviews I've looked at recently about current production
Springfield M1A's are giving them "thumbs down" for accuracy. $1700 is a
lot of dinero for a rifle that might or might not do a 1" MOA or better
at 100 yards. Even some cheapo ($800 or so) .308 AR-type rifles can do
that.

How much does an M1A weigh with a reasonably sized mag and a scope?


If I am target shooting, a heavy rifle is preferable. Dampen the kick.
Put the AR style recoil system on a heavy rifle, and sweet to shoot.
Humping through a jungle, light weight is preferable.


The M1A does not have an "AR style" recoil system. My new .308 has an AR
style recoil system, but I haven't shot it yet. I do have a "fancy"
muzzle device for it that is supposed to control muzzle flip and recoil.
We will see. With the optic and bipod, I'm guessing a weight of 9 to 9.5
pounds for the rifle. It's got an 18" "heavy barrel."


===

After shooting a few boxes of 308 through it, you'll wish the barrel
was twice as heavy.


The .308 ammo I used is pricey, and I only take a couple of dozen rounds
with me to the range. I take a lot of .22LR ammo, though. It is
cheap...again.

On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 18:33:41 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 11/2/18 4:33 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:18:37 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 11/2/18 11:47 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/1/18 11:09 PM, Tim wrote:

8:31
- show quoted text -
Where you are, you could be shooting one hole groups ... or you could
find another range that reaches out a little farther.
The most I ever wanted to achieve was hitting a rabbit or squirrel in
the head at 50-75 yards and I an not even interested in that anymore.
I still like breaking claybirds on a skeet range and I want to
maintain my "point and shoot" skills with my handguns but beyond that
I am not much of a shooter these days. There is a guy who wants to
trade me a NorChinko M14 and a bunch of money (He says a grand, I say
$1500) for my M1A and I might do it. Either would be sitting in my
safe and he says the M14 shoots as well as I would ever need.
I am just not sure what a pre-ban M1A is worth.
......


Well without looking hard, Cabella’s sells a brand new Remington M1A for
$1,699.00 and whatever other charges



Some of the reviews I've looked at recently about current production
Springfield M1A's are giving them "thumbs down" for accuracy. $1700 is a
lot of dinero for a rifle that might or might not do a 1" MOA or better
at 100 yards. Even some cheapo ($800 or so) .308 AR-type rifles can do
that.

How much does an M1A weigh with a reasonably sized mag and a scope?


If I am target shooting, a heavy rifle is preferable. Dampen the kick.
Put the AR style recoil system on a heavy rifle, and sweet to shoot.
Humping through a jungle, light weight is preferable.


The M1A does not have an "AR style" recoil system. My new .308 has an AR
style recoil system, but I haven't shot it yet. I do have a "fancy"
muzzle device for it that is supposed to control muzzle flip and recoil.
We will see. With the optic and bipod, I'm guessing a weight of 9 to 9.5
pounds for the rifle. It's got an 18" "heavy barrel."


===

After shooting a few boxes of 308 through it, you'll wish the barrel
was twice as heavy.


The .308 ammo I used is pricey, and I only take a couple of dozen rounds
with me to the range. I take a lot of .22LR ammo, though. It is
cheap...again.

The last couple times I took my M1A out, I took 3 30 round mags and
shot them but it was NATO surplus ammo, not match grade. I think it
was a quarter a round or so shipped ... a while ago.