On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 05:36:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/16/2018 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:44:56 -0400, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:31:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEaazdWUiLk
Looks good, except for the nails in the post. Don't want to deface this beautiful cedar. I'll think
up a workaround.


The cedar *will* rot. Paint the bottom (and the sides of the bottom) of
the post with cheap roof coating and you won't have to worry about
that. The pros do it here all the time.

Posts usually rot off right at the top of the concrete. That is why a
lot of people say not to use concrete at all.
If you are just setting them in dirt or compacted gravel (the option
we haven't discussed) I agree the coating is a good idea.



Many towns here in MA frown on or ban setting mailbox posts in concrete.
Too many snowplows are damaged.


My cop buddy in Maryland got tired of people mowing down his mailbox
so he brought me some 6x6 box beam that I welded angle on, to mount a
box. He buried about 3-4 feet of that in the ground, in concrete,
poured the beam solid and put his box on that. The next guy ended up
totaling his brand new Corvette and tried to sue my buddy. That did
not go very far. It turns out there is no expectation of safety when
you hit something in the right of way. Concrete utility poles are not
very forgiving either.

On 10/17/2018 12:01 PM, justan wrote:
Its Me Wrote in message:
On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 10:32:07 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 10/16/2018 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:44:56 -0400, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:31:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEaazdWUiLk
Looks good, except for the nails in the post. Don't want to deface this beautiful cedar. I'll think
up a workaround.


The cedar *will* rot. Paint the bottom (and the sides of the bottom) of
the post with cheap roof coating and you won't have to worry about
that. The pros do it here all the time.

Posts usually rot off right at the top of the concrete. That is why a
lot of people say not to use concrete at all.
If you are just setting them in dirt or compacted gravel (the option
we haven't discussed) I agree the coating is a good idea.



Many towns here in MA frown on or ban setting mailbox posts in concrete.
Too many snowplows are damaged.




By a 4x4? The last mailbox I put in was on a section of telephone
pole buried 5 feet in the ground. No concrete necessary.

Seems a little dangerous. Years ago a friend of my dad got tired of his mailbox being knocked down, and he used a piece of I-beam set in concrete for his post. The city/county (?) made him take it down. Said it could kill someone.

When I lived in a rural location some years ago, I had my mailbox on a piece of 1 inch galvanized pipe buried maybe 4 feet, but no concrete. Came home one night to find it over in the ditch where a car had hit it running about 50-60 mph. Nobody got killed, but I'm sure it left a mark.


My prior 2 mailboxes got knocked down. I don't know if it was
accidental or not. Anyone driving by my house at a safe speed
would not be hurt nor would the vehicle suffer extensive
damage.



Some kids think it's great fun to ride down a street with the passenger
hanging out the window hitting mailboxes with a base ball bat.

On 10/17/2018 10:46 AM, Tim wrote:

4:36 AMMr. Luddite
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Many towns here in MA frown on or ban setting mailbox posts in concrete.
Too many snowplows are damaged.

.......

I take it they don’t care about damages to your mailbox?

Also, what’s that say about the plow operator?



Every winter many mailboxes are lost due to plows. Don't necessarily
need to hit the post with the plow. Sometimes just the snow the
plow is lifting and throwing is enough.

In rural areas it's also difficult for the plow operator to see
the edge of the road or to judge how close he comes to mailbox
posts. It's hard to imagine but a plow doing 25-30 mph can
sustain some damage if it hits a post low that is in concrete ...
especially with the ground frozen.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 07:46:59 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


4:36 AMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
Many towns here in MA frown on or ban setting mailbox posts in concrete.
Too many snowplows are damaged.

.......

I take it they don’t care about damages to your mailbox?

Also, what’s that say about the plow operator?

Snow plow operators have sovereign immunity, at least next door to you
(Indiana). They totaled Judy's VW, buried in a snow drift on the side
of the road and they just said "tough ****"

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 05:45:03 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

John H

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"The USPS rule calls for the front of the mailbox to be 6"-8" back from the curb. Mine will be only*
about 3" back because of the damn gas line."



Maybe y'all should go for a curved metal post.
That pretty one might not survive the first snow storm.


:)

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 06:00:19 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


09:47Keyser Soze
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"Discussion kind of begs the question...who would write to Herring so
regularly he'd need a mailbox?"

Bill collectors....junk mail producers...hillbilly Jambouree event ticket pimps?

:)

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:00:32 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/17/2018 10:46 AM, Tim wrote:

4:36 AMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
Many towns here in MA frown on or ban setting mailbox posts in concrete.
Too many snowplows are damaged.

.......

I take it they don’t care about damages to your mailbox?

Also, what’s that say about the plow operator?



Every winter many mailboxes are lost due to plows. Don't necessarily
need to hit the post with the plow. Sometimes just the snow the
plow is lifting and throwing is enough.

In rural areas it's also difficult for the plow operator to see
the edge of the road or to judge how close he comes to mailbox
posts. It's hard to imagine but a plow doing 25-30 mph can
sustain some damage if it hits a post low that is in concrete ...
especially with the ground frozen.


It strikes me that in snowplow country it might be worth while setting
a higher pole on the edge of the road with a reflector on it to tip
the plow operator off where the road is. That seems pretty common out
west.

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 10/17/2018 12:01 PM, justan wrote:
Its Me Wrote in message:
On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 10:32:07 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 10/16/2018 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:44:56 -0400, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:31:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEaazdWUiLk
Looks good, except for the nails in the post. Don't want to deface this beautiful cedar. I'll think
up a workaround.


The cedar *will* rot. Paint the bottom (and the sides of the bottom) of
the post with cheap roof coating and you won't have to worry about
that. The pros do it here all the time.

Posts usually rot off right at the top of the concrete. That is why a
lot of people say not to use concrete at all.
If you are just setting them in dirt or compacted gravel (the option
we haven't discussed) I agree the coating is a good idea.



Many towns here in MA frown on or ban setting mailbox posts in concrete.
Too many snowplows are damaged.




By a 4x4? The last mailbox I put in was on a section of telephone
pole buried 5 feet in the ground. No concrete necessary.

Seems a little dangerous. Years ago a friend of my dad got tired of his mailbox being knocked down, and he used a piece of I-beam set in concrete for his post. The city/county (?) made him take it down. Said it could kill someone.

When I lived in a rural location some years ago, I had my mailbox on a piece of 1 inch galvanized pipe buried maybe 4 feet, but no concrete. Came home one night to find it over in the ditch where a car had hit it running about 50-60 mph. Nobody got killed, but I'm sure it left a mark.


My prior 2 mailboxes got knocked down. I don't know if it was
accidental or not. Anyone driving by my house at a safe speed
would not be hurt nor would the vehicle suffer extensive
damage.



Some kids think it's great fun to ride down a street with the passenger
hanging out the window hitting mailboxes with a base ball bat.




They would end up with limp wrists like Fat Harry.
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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:40 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I put a shovel or so of gravel in the bottom of the hole. I like to keep our damp soil away from the treated wood.
I do my mixing in the wheelbarrow. Don't recall seeing the dry mix dumped into the hole and then water sprayed on top.
This isn't 'treated wood', it's cedar. Dampness won't hurt it.

Over time it will. Ever seen an old cedar fence?

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/17/18 8:45 AM, True North wrote:
John H

- show quoted text -

"The USPS rule calls for the front of the mailbox to be 6"-8" back
from the curb. Mine will be only
about 3" back because of the damn gas line."



Maybe y'all should go for a curved metal post.
That pretty one might not survive the first snow storm.


Discussion kind of begs the question...who would write to Herring so
regularly he'd need a mailbox?


His family hasn't disowned him. You have tax bills to collect from your
mail box. He has letters from the grand kids.