On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:49:13 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:00:35 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 13:40:02 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 08:56:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



What we are discussing is a convenient way to hook up a small, portable
generator to feed a limited number of circuits, the most important being
for heat in the winter. As I've mentioned before a whole house system
is nice but we really haven't had enough long term outages to justify it
right now. In five or ten years it would have more "running" time on
it as a result of the weekly 10 minute battery charging exercise they
are programed for than providing power to the house.

If the day comes that I can't physically wheel or carry out a 43 lb
generator and plug it into the outside transfer switch, I'll consider a
whole house genset. To be honest I originally started looking into
this to help out my neighbor. He's 81 years old, has limited funds but
can still heft his little Honda around.


You know, they invented this thing called a "wheel" about 10,000 years
ago and they still work great ;-)
Anything I have that is heavy, has wheels on it. Maybe your neighbor
just needs a wheeled cart to move his generator. My briggs came with
big wheels that roll pretty good even in the grass. It is 250 pounds
or so tho. I put wheels on my drain snake. That sommich is 75# or so
and I can lug it around but I really don't want to. It is one of those
things that I have only used 3 or 4 times in a dozen years but it pays
for itself every time. I feel the same way about the generator that I
have only used once in 8 years. It is actually 13 years old and still
only run once for 8 days, pretty much 24 hours a day. The guy I bought
it from still had the factory tags on it. I don't think he ever
started it.

It might take a lot more outages to feel the same way about a
generator that costs as much as my car.

Wheels are great 'til you have to pick it up to put in or get out of a pickup. Then an extra pair of
hands is very nice to have.

or a ramp ;-)
I also have a ring in the ceiling over my garage door for a come
along. That is how I have rigged 4 outboards by myself.
It is all that geometry stuff tho. Yay Euclid ;-)

I can't think of anything in the garage that I'd hang a comealong on. Ramps take up too much space,
especially if the bed is loaded with a fifth-wheel hitch, tool box, blue boy, etc. Easier to ask for
a hand.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:56:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I can't think of anything in the garage that I'd hang a comealong on. Ramps take up too much space,
especially if the bed is loaded with a fifth-wheel hitch, tool box, blue boy, etc. Easier to ask for
a hand.

===

You can make an improvised gantry crane with two stepladders, a 2x10
plank, and a few C-clamps to steady the plank. I've done that a few
times for hoisting heavy stuff onto the tailgate.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 21:21:36 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:56:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I can't think of anything in the garage that I'd hang a comealong on. Ramps take up too much space,
especially if the bed is loaded with a fifth-wheel hitch, tool box, blue boy, etc. Easier to ask for
a hand.

===

You can make an improvised gantry crane with two stepladders, a 2x10
plank, and a few C-clamps to steady the plank. I've done that a few
times for hoisting heavy stuff onto the tailgate.

That is similar to how the screen guys did the screen over my pool.
They had a scaffold plank on two 10-12' step ladders spanning the
pool. It was pretty scary looking but they don't call them screen
monkeys for nothing.
(No Harry, these are skinny little white guys.)
They do climb around on that 2" framing like monkeys tho.

On 10/5/2018 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 21:21:36 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:56:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I can't think of anything in the garage that I'd hang a comealong on. Ramps take up too much space,
especially if the bed is loaded with a fifth-wheel hitch, tool box, blue boy, etc. Easier to ask for
a hand.

===

You can make an improvised gantry crane with two stepladders, a 2x10
plank, and a few C-clamps to steady the plank. I've done that a few
times for hoisting heavy stuff onto the tailgate.

That is similar to how the screen guys did the screen over my pool.
They had a scaffold plank on two 10-12' step ladders spanning the
pool. It was pretty scary looking but they don't call them screen
monkeys for nothing.
(No Harry, these are skinny little white guys.)
They do climb around on that 2" framing like monkeys tho.


Reminds me of my trip to Wuxi, China (PRC) back in 1986. They were
building new, "high rise" buildings in the city. The Chinese
construction workers were on bamboo scaffolding, some built up
10 stories high.

On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 07:23:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/5/2018 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 21:21:36 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:56:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I can't think of anything in the garage that I'd hang a comealong on. Ramps take up too much space,
especially if the bed is loaded with a fifth-wheel hitch, tool box, blue boy, etc. Easier to ask for
a hand.

===

You can make an improvised gantry crane with two stepladders, a 2x10
plank, and a few C-clamps to steady the plank. I've done that a few
times for hoisting heavy stuff onto the tailgate.

That is similar to how the screen guys did the screen over my pool.
They had a scaffold plank on two 10-12' step ladders spanning the
pool. It was pretty scary looking but they don't call them screen
monkeys for nothing.
(No Harry, these are skinny little white guys.)
They do climb around on that 2" framing like monkeys tho.


Reminds me of my trip to Wuxi, China (PRC) back in 1986. They were
building new, "high rise" buildings in the city. The Chinese
construction workers were on bamboo scaffolding, some built up
10 stories high.


Bamboo is actually a pretty good structural element until it starts to
rot. I agree in the 3d world they don't have OSHA tho.
Not that OSHA is the be all, end all of safety.

Did you see that story the other day about OSHA fining the USPS over
$200k because their electrical panel directories were not properly
labeled (and a few other fairly minor, unrelated issues)?
They were investigating a fork lift accident were a guy fell off of
it.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:56:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:49:13 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:00:35 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 13:40:02 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 08:56:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



What we are discussing is a convenient way to hook up a small, portable
generator to feed a limited number of circuits, the most important being
for heat in the winter. As I've mentioned before a whole house system
is nice but we really haven't had enough long term outages to justify it
right now. In five or ten years it would have more "running" time on
it as a result of the weekly 10 minute battery charging exercise they
are programed for than providing power to the house.

If the day comes that I can't physically wheel or carry out a 43 lb
generator and plug it into the outside transfer switch, I'll consider a
whole house genset. To be honest I originally started looking into
this to help out my neighbor. He's 81 years old, has limited funds but
can still heft his little Honda around.


You know, they invented this thing called a "wheel" about 10,000 years
ago and they still work great ;-)
Anything I have that is heavy, has wheels on it. Maybe your neighbor
just needs a wheeled cart to move his generator. My briggs came with
big wheels that roll pretty good even in the grass. It is 250 pounds
or so tho. I put wheels on my drain snake. That sommich is 75# or so
and I can lug it around but I really don't want to. It is one of those
things that I have only used 3 or 4 times in a dozen years but it pays
for itself every time. I feel the same way about the generator that I
have only used once in 8 years. It is actually 13 years old and still
only run once for 8 days, pretty much 24 hours a day. The guy I bought
it from still had the factory tags on it. I don't think he ever
started it.

It might take a lot more outages to feel the same way about a
generator that costs as much as my car.

Wheels are great 'til you have to pick it up to put in or get out of a pickup. Then an extra pair of
hands is very nice to have.

or a ramp ;-)
I also have a ring in the ceiling over my garage door for a come
along. That is how I have rigged 4 outboards by myself.
It is all that geometry stuff tho. Yay Euclid ;-)

I can't think of anything in the garage that I'd hang a comealong on. Ramps take up too much space,
especially if the bed is loaded with a fifth-wheel hitch, tool box, blue boy, etc. Easier to ask for
a hand.

I suppose it depends on the design of the garage but I hung a chain
around the bottom chord of the truss, right next to the tie beam over
the garage door.
I end up working by myself a lot and my neighbors all seem to have bad
backs. I need to use a lot of 20th century (BC) technology. ;-)