I need a couple of busted winches for the Harken "trade-in" program.

Don't know about Seattle but down here we have "Yacht Surplus"
junkyards (Minney's, for example) that usually have a few seriously
busted winches available. You'll pay more than ten bucks for one just
for the scrap metal (aluminum or bronze) value, though. And even the
seriously busted ones have a gear or two in them worth more than ten
bucks.

I think you're dreamin'.

Our sailing buddy Jeff decided to take this off newsgroup and go one
on one by email. Kinda ticks me off, as I thought I gave him good
advice, i.e., people probably won't mail you used winches for ten
bucks each plus postage. Here's the off line email dialogue:

From: "Jeff Stander"
To:
Subject: Need some broken old winches
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:28:58 -0800

Yes,

We have "junkyards" too. But the prices are simply absurd - hundreds
of
dollars for non self-tailing winches available on ebay for a 100
bucks.

So you think I'm "dreamin'", eh. Yes I suppose it was too much to
hope
that
somebody would have an old winch in their workshop to help out a
fellow
sailor. It's not like they are going to get more than $10 for it at
their
friendly marine junkyard. And it's not really about the ten bucks,
Mark,
but I guess you and the others who responded with their febrile
comments
didn't quite realize that. I've kinda had it with this newsgroup,
frankly.

JS

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-----Original Message-----
From: ]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:46 PM
To:
Subject: Need some broken old winches


My my, such a chip on your shoulder! What I was trying to say is
it's
unlikely a fellow boater has a broken winch he'll part with for $10
when
just the metal scarp value is more than that.

So, how many offers have you gotten so far? I rest my case . . .

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From: "Jeff Stander"
To:
Subject: Need some broken old winches
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:13:49 -0800

Who needs negativity?

I have six winches so far.

What exactly was the benefit of your comment? Either people would
help me
or they won't.

Best of Luck to you.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++

Hard to tell based on verb tense, but apparently Jeff's saying this
newsgroup he's "had it with" coughed up six winches at the ten bucks a
pop deal. If so, I stand corrected and the world is more rose colored
than I imagine. Oddly, his website at
"http://www.svbeatrix.us/Refit/Deck/WinchReplacement.htm" makes no
mention of turning in used winches obtained from a Google newsgroup
request as part of the Harken deal. Would be quite an attaboy for
"us" if so.

I think it didn't happen. End of story, point bein' keep it on line,
folks.

Our sailing buddy Jeff decided to take this off newsgroup and go one
on one by email. Kinda ticks me off, as I thought I gave him good
advice, i.e., people probably won't mail you used winches for ten
bucks each plus postage. Here's the off line email dialogue:

From: "Jeff Stander"
To:
Subject: Need some broken old winches
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:28:58 -0800

Yes,

We have "junkyards" too. But the prices are simply absurd - hundreds
of
dollars for non self-tailing winches available on ebay for a 100
bucks.

So you think I'm "dreamin'", eh. Yes I suppose it was too much to
hope
that
somebody would have an old winch in their workshop to help out a
fellow
sailor. It's not like they are going to get more than $10 for it at
their
friendly marine junkyard. And it's not really about the ten bucks,
Mark,
but I guess you and the others who responded with their febrile
comments
didn't quite realize that. I've kinda had it with this newsgroup,
frankly.

JS

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: ]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:46 PM
To:
Subject: Need some broken old winches


My my, such a chip on your shoulder! What I was trying to say is
it's
unlikely a fellow boater has a broken winch he'll part with for $10
when
just the metal scarp value is more than that.

So, how many offers have you gotten so far? I rest my case . . .

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From: "Jeff Stander"
To:
Subject: Need some broken old winches
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:13:49 -0800

Who needs negativity?

I have six winches so far.

What exactly was the benefit of your comment? Either people would
help me
or they won't.

Best of Luck to you.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++

Hard to tell based on verb tense, but apparently Jeff's saying this
newsgroup he's "had it with" coughed up six winches at the ten bucks a
pop deal. If so, I stand corrected and the world is more rose colored
than I imagine. Oddly, his website at
"http://www.svbeatrix.us/Refit/Deck/WinchReplacement.htm" makes no
mention of turning in used winches obtained from a Google newsgroup
request as part of the Harken deal. Would be quite an attaboy for
"us" if so.

I think it didn't happen. End of story, point bein' keep it on line,
folks.