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On 18 Aug 2003 04:08:19 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 15 Aug 2003 03:56:23 -0700,
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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 14 Aug 2003 04:10:05 -0700,
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Now you're acting just like skipper, with your snipping of the relevant
facts that prove you're a moron.

Or, do you just get everything you've ever known from websites?
Newsflash, there, idiot. MOST websites dealing with martial arts tell
you that stuff. To a SMALL extent, it's true. Ever watch blackbelts
train? Calm? Not in the LEAST!

Why are you afraid to answer the simple question that is on topic to
this thread and reveals nothing about your personal life. Do you think
NONE of the oil vapor that makes it's way back to the intake manifold
via the PCV valve gets burned?

Why? Because YOU, Steve, have written in this thread that I don't know
about Karate. Also, YOU have implied, through this thread, that YOU DO

I have no idea what you know about karate. I do know that you claim to
be a student of karate and yet you do not follow it's principles and
don't even know what those principles are.

Please provide where you've gotten your training. You must be trained
in Karate to be able to say that somebody who HAS trained in the art
for quite a period of time, don't know anything about it.!


Why do you care where I've gotten my training? I'm not claiming you
don't have training in karate. But it is self evident that you don't
follow the principles, either because you don't follow the training
you've gotten or you just don't know what those principles are. I've
already given examples of where your actions deviate from any training
you might have received in karate.

know about Karate. Now, because of this implication, I'd like to see
just what you really do know about Karate. In particular American
Kenpo Karate, Ed Parker system??

I know that you don't practice the principles of karate when you are
stalking people on the internet threatening them with violence.

Uh, I'm the one being stalked, idiot.


Maybe in your own mind you're being stalked. But on this newsgroup, you
are the one stalking others by asking them to meet you and threatening
them with physical violence, breaking necks, etc. Now that I've
answered your questions again, can you answer my question: Do you think
NNE of the oil vapor that makes it's way back to the intake manifold va
the PCV valve gets burned?


Nah, Steve, you stupid old man. You see, I get tired of drawn up
pieces of crap like you and Joe, hiding behind newsgroups. You name
call, etc. real well, when hiding behind a newsgroup, like hiding
behind mommy's skirt. But it's a different story when asked to do so
in person, huh? But, alas, you shouldn't be afraid, you've got Karate
training, right? Where did you take that training? Rank? Dojo?
Lineage? Oh, you don't know, right?


Nah, DimDummy, you stupid old man. What you get tired of is being
proven a dumb idiot with every post you make. That's why you won't
answer any more direct questions, because you now realize you're just a
stupid fool who doesn't know squat about anything. Here's a short list
of the things you've been wrong about in just this single thread that so
beautifully demonstrates your stupidity. I'm probably missing a few
things because there's so much you were wrong about, but here goes:

You're wrong when you said an engine normally burns NO oil. Your
ineptness in defending that indefensible position led you to be wrong
about a whole host of things, including:

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
speed of the wiper does not affect how much liquid is left on the
surface. That's wrong.

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
temperature of the liquid directly affects how much liquid is left on
the surface. That's wrong. The viscosity does, not the temperature.
The temp may or may not affect the viscosity.

You're wrong when you claim that there must be visible blue smoke if an
engine is burning any oil, even minute amounts.

When oil gets through the exhaust valve stem of a running engine, it
ends up being burned. You're wrong when you claimed it doesn't.

You're wrong when you claim that saying something was "consumed in the
combustion process" is not the same thing as saying it "burned".

You were wrong when you said the GM reference never says that an engine
looses oil on the cylinder wall. It does, and the reference does say
that.

You're wrong in thinking that the oil pressure gauge is reading the
force of the oil against the wiper ring.

You're wrong when you say that the pressure against the walls of the
crankcase is constant everywhere when the engine is running. Turbulence
causes that not to be true.

You're wrong when you claim that the pressure against the top of the
piston in a running normal air compressor is the same as the pressure in
the tank.

You're wrong when you claim that the force against the top of the rings
is the same as the force everywhere else in the cylinder.

You're wrong when you claimed that I was the first person to start
calling names. You were.

You're wrong when you claimed that I was first person to call someone a
little school girl. You did

You're wrong when you claimed that you never called on your daughter to
defend you.

You're wrong when you claimed that I screwed some woman out of her child
support.

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach etiquette.

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach not to panic
and to remain calm when confronted.

You're wrong when you claim that under the principles of karate, it's ok
to physically attack your opponent first if you think you need to defend
your honor.

And all that is just what I quickly found from one thread. I'm sure
there's a lot more things you were wrong about. Sad thing is, there's
nothing you were right about.

Steve
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Nah, Steve, you stupid old man. You see, I get tired of drawn up
pieces of crap like you and Joe, hiding behind newsgroups. You name
call, etc. real well, when hiding behind a newsgroup, like hiding
behind mommy's skirt. But it's a different story when asked to do so
in person, huh? But, alas, you shouldn't be afraid, you've got Karate
training, right? Where did you take that training? Rank? Dojo?
Lineage? Oh, you don't know, right?


Nah, DimDummy, you stupid old man. What you get tired of is being
proven a dumb idiot with every post you make. That's why you won't
answer any more direct questions, because you now realize you're just a
stupid fool who doesn't know squat about anything. Here's a short list
of the things you've been wrong about in just this single thread that so
beautifully demonstrates your stupidity. I'm probably missing a few
things because there's so much you were wrong about, but here goes:


Yeah, sure, the same old, same old. I just love how you think you know
everything, and no one else knows anything! How did anyone ever teach
you anything? It must be hell going through life so damned important.
Did your extensive karate training teach you that? What WAS that
training, anyway?

You're wrong when you said an engine normally burns NO oil. Your
ineptness in defending that indefensible position led you to be wrong
about a whole host of things, including:

I have given many examples fortifying my case, you've just either not
read them, or not understood them. Just like you, to not take any
other written material as important, other than material that YOU have
dredged up.

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
speed of the wiper does not affect how much liquid is left on the
surface. That's wrong.

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
temperature of the liquid directly affects how much liquid is left on
the surface. That's wrong. The viscosity does, not the temperature.
The temp may or may not affect the viscosity.


In this case, it DOES, which makes YOU wrong when you say that temp.
doesn't affect the outcome.

You're wrong when you claim that there must be visible blue smoke if an
engine is burning any oil, even minute amounts.


Never said that. You claimed that there doesn't have to BE SMOKE.
There does. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't
exist.

When oil gets through the exhaust valve stem of a running engine, it
ends up being burned. You're wrong when you claimed it doesn't.

No.....it is simply pushed out of the chamber on the exhaust stroke.
If it is bad enough, with enough cylinders leaking through valve stem
seal, then you can actually SEE oil residue on the tailpipe. Ever seen
it? If not, it's those blinders in the way again.

You're wrong when you claim that saying something was "consumed in the
combustion process" is not the same thing as saying it "burned".


I said this: Consumed is NOT the same as burned. PERIOD. Do you
believe that it IS?

You were wrong when you said the GM reference never says that an engine
looses oil on the cylinder wall. It does, and the reference does say
that.


No, it doesn't.

You're wrong in thinking that the oil pressure gauge is reading the
force of the oil against the wiper ring.


Where DID I say that??

You're wrong when you say that the pressure against the walls of the
crankcase is constant everywhere when the engine is running. Turbulence
causes that not to be true.


The flow is laminar. Your Reynold's equation says as much.

You're wrong when you claim that the pressure against the top of the
piston in a running normal air compressor is the same as the pressure in
the tank.


Guess you've never taking an elementary physics class, huh? How could
the pressure (per square inch) be different?

You're wrong when you claim that the force against the top of the rings
is the same as the force everywhere else in the cylinder.


Again, elementary physics says you are wrong.

You're wrong when you claimed that I was the first person to start
calling names. You were.


No, sorry. Do some research. YOU are.

You're wrong when you claimed that I was first person to call someone a
little school girl. You did


again, you are wrong.

You're wrong when you claimed that you never called on your daughter to
defend you.



You're wrong when you claimed that I screwed some woman out of her child
support.


When did I "claim" that?

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach etiquette.


It doesn't. Please provide your Karate experience. I'll then provide
mine.
It teaches history, it teaches it's particular philosophy, it teaches
discipline. Etiquette? Nah....This weekend, I went through all of my
books, including Ed Parker, who is the father of American Kenpo
Karate. To my knowledge, he never mentions "etiquette". Of course, you
think you know more than I do on the subject, so please show where he
mentions it. Or Lee Wedlake.

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach not to panic
and to remain calm when confronted.


Never said it does not teach you "not to panic". It doesn't however,
teach you to remain "calm". Quite the contrary. When confronted, the
three principles are, in order, speed, power and intensity.

You're wrong when you claim that under the principles of karate, it's ok
to physically attack your opponent first if you think you need to defend
your honor.


Attack or be attacked. Your choice. I know which one I, or any other
KNOWLEDGABLE martial artist will take. You?

And all that is just what I quickly found from one thread. I'm sure
there's a lot more things you were wrong about. Sad thing is, there's
nothing you were right about.


Only in YOUR eyes. It must be pure hell thinking you are the greatest!
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basskisser wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

Nah, Steve, you stupid old man. You see, I get tired of drawn up
pieces of crap like you and Joe, hiding behind newsgroups. You name
call, etc. real well, when hiding behind a newsgroup, like hiding
behind mommy's skirt. But it's a different story when asked to do so
in person, huh? But, alas, you shouldn't be afraid, you've got Karate
training, right? Where did you take that training? Rank? Dojo?
Lineage? Oh, you don't know, right?


Nah, DimDummy, you stupid old man. What you get tired of is being
proven a dumb idiot with every post you make. That's why you won't
answer any more direct questions, because you now realize you're just a
stupid fool who doesn't know squat about anything. Here's a short list
of the things you've been wrong about in just this single thread that so
beautifully demonstrates your stupidity. I'm probably missing a few
things because there's so much you were wrong about, but here goes:



Yeah, sure, the same old, same old. I just love how you think you know
everything, and no one else knows anything! How did anyone ever teach
you anything? It must be hell going through life so damned important.
Did your extensive karate training teach you that? What WAS that
training, anyway?

You're wrong when you said an engine normally burns NO oil. Your
ineptness in defending that indefensible position led you to be wrong
about a whole host of things, including:


I have given many examples fortifying my case, you've just either not
read them, or not understood them. Just like you, to not take any
other written material as important, other than material that YOU have
dredged up.

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
speed of the wiper does not affect how much liquid is left on the
surface. That's wrong.

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
temperature of the liquid directly affects how much liquid is left on
the surface. That's wrong. The viscosity does, not the temperature.
The temp may or may not affect the viscosity.



In this case, it DOES, which makes YOU wrong when you say that temp.
doesn't affect the outcome.

You're wrong when you claim that there must be visible blue smoke if an
engine is burning any oil, even minute amounts.



Never said that. You claimed that there doesn't have to BE SMOKE.
There does. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't
exist.

When oil gets through the exhaust valve stem of a running engine, it
ends up being burned. You're wrong when you claimed it doesn't.


No.....it is simply pushed out of the chamber on the exhaust stroke.
If it is bad enough, with enough cylinders leaking through valve stem
seal, then you can actually SEE oil residue on the tailpipe. Ever seen
it? If not, it's those blinders in the way again.

You're wrong when you claim that saying something was "consumed in the
combustion process" is not the same thing as saying it "burned".



I said this: Consumed is NOT the same as burned. PERIOD. Do you
believe that it IS?

You were wrong when you said the GM reference never says that an engine
looses oil on the cylinder wall. It does, and the reference does say
that.



No, it doesn't.

You're wrong in thinking that the oil pressure gauge is reading the
force of the oil against the wiper ring.



Where DID I say that??

You're wrong when you say that the pressure against the walls of the
crankcase is constant everywhere when the engine is running. Turbulence
causes that not to be true.



The flow is laminar. Your Reynold's equation says as much.

You're wrong when you claim that the pressure against the top of the
piston in a running normal air compressor is the same as the pressure in
the tank.



Guess you've never taking an elementary physics class, huh? How could
the pressure (per square inch) be different?

You're wrong when you claim that the force against the top of the rings
is the same as the force everywhere else in the cylinder.



Again, elementary physics says you are wrong.

You're wrong when you claimed that I was the first person to start
calling names. You were.



No, sorry. Do some research. YOU are.

You're wrong when you claimed that I was first person to call someone a
little school girl. You did



again, you are wrong.

You're wrong when you claimed that you never called on your daughter to
defend you.



You're wrong when you claimed that I screwed some woman out of her child
support.



When did I "claim" that?

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach etiquette.



It doesn't. Please provide your Karate experience. I'll then provide
mine.
It teaches history, it teaches it's particular philosophy, it teaches
discipline. Etiquette? Nah....This weekend, I went through all of my
books, including Ed Parker, who is the father of American Kenpo
Karate. To my knowledge, he never mentions "etiquette". Of course, you
think you know more than I do on the subject, so please show where he
mentions it. Or Lee Wedlake.

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach not to panic
and to remain calm when confronted.



Never said it does not teach you "not to panic". It doesn't however,
teach you to remain "calm". Quite the contrary. When confronted, the
three principles are, in order, speed, power and intensity.

You're wrong when you claim that under the principles of karate, it's ok
to physically attack your opponent first if you think you need to defend
your honor.



Attack or be attacked. Your choice. I know which one I, or any other
KNOWLEDGABLE martial artist will take. You?


More PROOF you know nothing about Karate if you think it's ok to physically
attack someone to defend your honor when they have not attacked you first.
You really need to brush up on those lessons. But you're such an idiot
lessons probably can't help you.

And all that is just what I quickly found from one thread. I'm sure
there's a lot more things you were wrong about. Sad thing is, there's
nothing you were right about.



Only in YOUR eyes. It must be pure hell thinking you are the greatest!


You're the one saying I'm the greatest, not me. I'm saying that you don't
know squat about anything you've posted on. That fact is self evident.

Steve

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basskisser wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

Nah, Steve, you stupid old man. You see, I get tired of drawn up
pieces of crap like you and Joe, hiding behind newsgroups. You name
call, etc. real well, when hiding behind a newsgroup, like hiding
behind mommy's skirt. But it's a different story when asked to do so
in person, huh? But, alas, you shouldn't be afraid, you've got Karate
training, right? Where did you take that training? Rank? Dojo?
Lineage? Oh, you don't know, right?


Nah, DimDummy, you stupid old man. What you get tired of is being
proven a dumb idiot with every post you make. That's why you won't
answer any more direct questions, because you now realize you're just a
stupid fool who doesn't know squat about anything. Here's a short list
of the things you've been wrong about in just this single thread that so
beautifully demonstrates your stupidity. I'm probably missing a few
things because there's so much you were wrong about, but here goes:



Yeah, sure, the same old, same old. I just love how you think you know
everything, and no one else knows anything! How did anyone ever teach
you anything? It must be hell going through life so damned important.
Did your extensive karate training teach you that? What WAS that
training, anyway?


There you go again proving you don't know how to read or understand what
you've read.

You're wrong when you said an engine normally burns NO oil. Your
ineptness in defending that indefensible position led you to be wrong
about a whole host of things, including:


I have given many examples fortifying my case, you've just either not
read them, or not understood them. Just like you, to not take any
other written material as important, other than material that YOU have
dredged up.


The only examples you've given have undermined your case.

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
speed of the wiper does not affect how much liquid is left on the
surface. That's wrong.


Glad to see you agree you were wrong.

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
temperature of the liquid directly affects how much liquid is left on
the surface. That's wrong. The viscosity does, not the temperature.
The temp may or may not affect the viscosity.



In this case, it DOES, which makes YOU wrong when you say that temp.
doesn't affect the outcome.


Thanks for providing even more proof that you don't know how to read. I
didn't say that temp doesn't affect the outcome. I said it doesn't
directly affect the outcome, which it doesn't.

You're wrong when you claim that there must be visible blue smoke if an
engine is burning any oil, even minute amounts.



Never said that. You claimed that there doesn't have to BE SMOKE.
There does. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't
exist.


The above just proved that you don't know what the term VISIBLE means.
You're really on a roll today. You must really be a glutton for
punishment to show you're stupidity in such a flagrant manner.

When oil gets through the exhaust valve stem of a running engine, it
ends up being burned. You're wrong when you claimed it doesn't.


No.....it is simply pushed out of the chamber on the exhaust stroke.
If it is bad enough, with enough cylinders leaking through valve stem
seal, then you can actually SEE oil residue on the tailpipe. Ever seen
it? If not, it's those blinders in the way again.


And now you're showing you're too stupid to learn something new since
Toyota explicitly says that oil escaping the exhaust valve stem is
BURNED, their word ... not mine.

You're wrong when you claim that saying something was "consumed in the
combustion process" is not the same thing as saying it "burned".



I said this: Consumed is NOT the same as burned. PERIOD. Do you
believe that it IS?


WRONG!!! Here is an EXACT quote of my question to you and your answer
to me:

I said:
Now, do you or do you NOT contend that "burned" and "consumed in the
combustion process" DO mean the same thing?


You replied:
correct, I do NOT contend that "burned" and "consumed in the
combustion process" mean the same thing.


Now we know why you're afraid to answer direct questions... because it
makes you look like a stupid moron. And now you have to deny your
stupid remarks from before. Too bad they're archived.

You were wrong when you said the GM reference never says that an engine
looses oil on the cylinder wall. It does, and the reference does say
that.



No, it doesn't.


Here's an EXACT quote of the GM reference which says an engine looses
oil on the cylinder wall. Quoted from GM Bulletin No.: 76-60-04A:
When a piston moves down its cylinder, a thin film of oil is left on
the cylinder wall. During the power stroke, part of this oil layer is
consumed in the combustion process.


Once again, proving you were wrong when you said the GM reference never
says that an engine looses oil on the cylinder wall. You're soooo easy
today.

You're wrong in thinking that the oil pressure gauge is reading the
force of the oil against the wiper ring.



Where DID I say that??


Right he
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com
when you ask "SO, just how many times 100 psi should my oil pressure
gauge show? Should it be 500 psi? 600psi" when we were talking about the
force of the oil against the downward moving wiper ring. Actually, that
post above is a good one because it shows just how confused you are on
many technical details.

You're wrong when you say that the pressure against the walls of the
crankcase is constant everywhere when the engine is running. Turbulence
causes that not to be true.



The flow is laminar. Your Reynold's equation says as much.


You actually believe the currents inside a running crankcase produce
laminar flow against the walls of the crankcase? If so, think some
more.

You're wrong when you claim that the pressure against the top of the
piston in a running normal air compressor is the same as the pressure in
the tank.



Guess you've never taking an elementary physics class, huh? How could
the pressure (per square inch) be different?


You need to move on past elementary physics to understand how the
pressure could be different. If I explain to you how the pressure could
be different you won't learn it anyway.

You're wrong when you claim that the force against the top of the rings
is the same as the force everywhere else in the cylinder.



Again, elementary physics says you are wrong.


And more advanced physics as well as reality says you are wrong.

You're wrong when you claimed that I was the first person to start
calling names. You were.



No, sorry. Do some research. YOU are.


I did the research and showed you the result. You have not refuted it
yet. If you can, go right ahead. Find a post in the Usage of motoroil
thread where I called you a name earlier than the first post where you
called me a name. Here it is:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com

You're wrong when you claimed that I was first person to call someone a
little school girl. You did



again, you are wrong.


And again, I gave you the post showing the first time you called me a
little school girl. Here it is again:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com

You have not yet provided an earlier one showing me calling you one. So
obviously either you're just stupid or a liar or both.

You're wrong when you claimed that you never called on your daughter to
defend you.



You're wrong when you claimed that I screwed some woman out of her child
support.



When did I "claim" that?


You posted it several times. Here's one of them:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com
Here's the exact quote:
Basskisser said:
Again, go see if you can screw some woman out of her child
support...again.


If I could screw some woman out of her child support ... again, you're
claiming I've done it a first time. With that claim, you're a lying
idiot.

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach etiquette.



It doesn't. Please provide your Karate experience. I'll then provide
mine.
It teaches history, it teaches it's particular philosophy, it teaches
discipline. Etiquette? Nah....This weekend, I went through all of my
books, including Ed Parker, who is the father of American Kenpo
Karate. To my knowledge, he never mentions "etiquette". Of course, you
think you know more than I do on the subject, so please show where he
mentions it. Or Lee Wedlake.


I already gave you proof that it teaches etiquette. Now it's up to you
to prove I'm wrong with more than just an "I say so."

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach not to panic
and to remain calm when confronted.



Never said it does not teach you "not to panic". It doesn't however,
teach you to remain "calm". Quite the contrary. When confronted, the
three principles are, in order, speed, power and intensity.


I already gave you proof that it teaches one to remain calm when
confronted. Now it's up to you to prove I'm wrong with more than just
an "I say so."

You're wrong when you claim that under the principles of karate, it's ok
to physically attack your opponent first if you think you need to defend
your honor.



Attack or be attacked. Your choice. I know which one I, or any other
KNOWLEDGABLE martial artist will take. You?


The most absolute proof you've given so far that you know nothing about
the principles of karate if you think it's ok to attack someone
physically to defend your honor. Thanks for proving yourself so inept
without me having to even try.

And all that is just what I quickly found from one thread. I'm sure
there's a lot more things you were wrong about. Sad thing is, there's
nothing you were right about.



Only in YOUR eyes. It must be pure hell thinking you are the greatest!


That's better than your hell, knowing you're a bumbling idiot.

Steve
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basskisser wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

Nah, Steve, you stupid old man. You see, I get tired of drawn up
pieces of crap like you and Joe, hiding behind newsgroups. You name
call, etc. real well, when hiding behind a newsgroup, like hiding
behind mommy's skirt. But it's a different story when asked to do so
in person, huh? But, alas, you shouldn't be afraid, you've got Karate
training, right? Where did you take that training? Rank? Dojo?
Lineage? Oh, you don't know, right?

Nah, DimDummy, you stupid old man. What you get tired of is being
proven a dumb idiot with every post you make. That's why you won't
answer any more direct questions, because you now realize you're just a
stupid fool who doesn't know squat about anything. Here's a short list
of the things you've been wrong about in just this single thread that so
beautifully demonstrates your stupidity. I'm probably missing a few
things because there's so much you were wrong about, but here goes:



Yeah, sure, the same old, same old. I just love how you think you know
everything, and no one else knows anything! How did anyone ever teach
you anything? It must be hell going through life so damned important.
Did your extensive karate training teach you that? What WAS that
training, anyway?


There you go again proving you don't know how to read or understand what
you've read.

You're wrong when you said an engine normally burns NO oil. Your
ineptness in defending that indefensible position led you to be wrong
about a whole host of things, including:


I have given many examples fortifying my case, you've just either not
read them, or not understood them. Just like you, to not take any
other written material as important, other than material that YOU have
dredged up.


The only examples you've given have undermined your case.

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
speed of the wiper does not affect how much liquid is left on the
surface. That's wrong.


Glad to see you agree you were wrong.

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
temperature of the liquid directly affects how much liquid is left on
the surface. That's wrong. The viscosity does, not the temperature.
The temp may or may not affect the viscosity.



In this case, it DOES, which makes YOU wrong when you say that temp.
doesn't affect the outcome.


Thanks for providing even more proof that you don't know how to read. I
didn't say that temp doesn't affect the outcome. I said it doesn't
directly affect the outcome, which it doesn't.


It doesn't directly affect the outcome?? Are you SERIOUS? What a
blind, dumb rat!!

You're wrong when you claim that there must be visible blue smoke if an
engine is burning any oil, even minute amounts.



Never said that. You claimed that there doesn't have to BE SMOKE.
There does. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't
exist.


The above just proved that you don't know what the term VISIBLE means.
You're really on a roll today. You must really be a glutton for
punishment to show you're stupidity in such a flagrant manner.


You effing IDIOT, in the original post, I NEVER said the smoke had to
be visible. You added that!!! What a blind dumb rat....again!

When oil gets through the exhaust valve stem of a running engine, it
ends up being burned. You're wrong when you claimed it doesn't.


No.....it is simply pushed out of the chamber on the exhaust stroke.
If it is bad enough, with enough cylinders leaking through valve stem
seal, then you can actually SEE oil residue on the tailpipe. Ever seen
it? If not, it's those blinders in the way again.


And now you're showing you're too stupid to learn something new since
Toyota explicitly says that oil escaping the exhaust valve stem is
BURNED, their word ... not mine.


It CAN be, and it is possible to NOT be.

You're wrong when you claim that saying something was "consumed in the
combustion process" is not the same thing as saying it "burned".



I said this: Consumed is NOT the same as burned. PERIOD. Do you
believe that it IS?


WRONG!!! Here is an EXACT quote of my question to you and your answer
to me:

I said:
Now, do you or do you NOT contend that "burned" and "consumed in the
combustion process" DO mean the same thing?


You replied:
correct, I do NOT contend that "burned" and "consumed in the
combustion process" mean the same thing.


Okay, I know it is impossible to teach somebody something who is so
narrow minded, but I'll try. (Man, you must have been hell on teachers
trying to open up that pea brain to get something into it) Burned
means what it says. Burned. "Consumed in the combustion process" is
all together different. It COULD be burned, but doesn't have to be.
The key word is PROCESS. The sentence doesn't say that it was indeed,
without burned at the moment of combustion. The PROCESS consists of
several incidences other than the actual combustion. The process
constists of things you may have heard of, but being closed minded,
didn't sink home, like compression, intake, exhaust, and power
strokes.

Now we know why you're afraid to answer direct questions... because it
makes you look like a stupid moron. And now you have to deny your
stupid remarks from before. Too bad they're archived.

You were wrong when you said the GM reference never says that an engine
looses oil on the cylinder wall. It does, and the reference does say
that.



No, it doesn't.


Here's an EXACT quote of the GM reference which says an engine looses
oil on the cylinder wall. Quoted from GM Bulletin No.: 76-60-04A:
When a piston moves down its cylinder, a thin film of oil is left on
the cylinder wall. During the power stroke, part of this oil layer is
consumed in the combustion process.


See above, vacuum brain.

Once again, proving you were wrong when you said the GM reference never
says that an engine looses oil on the cylinder wall. You're soooo easy
today.

You're wrong in thinking that the oil pressure gauge is reading the
force of the oil against the wiper ring.



Where DID I say that??


Right he
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com
when you ask "SO, just how many times 100 psi should my oil pressure
gauge show? Should it be 500 psi? 600psi" when we were talking about the
force of the oil against the downward moving wiper ring. Actually, that
post above is a good one because it shows just how confused you are on
many technical details.


Where does that say that the "gauge is reading the *FORCE* of the oil
against the wiper ring????? Do you know and understand what FORCE is??


You're wrong when you say that the pressure against the walls of the
crankcase is constant everywhere when the engine is running. Turbulence
causes that not to be true.



The flow is laminar. Your Reynold's equation says as much.


You actually believe the currents inside a running crankcase produce
laminar flow against the walls of the crankcase? If so, think some
more.


Reynold's equation that YOU posted as gossiple.

You're wrong when you claim that the pressure against the top of the
piston in a running normal air compressor is the same as the pressure in
the tank.



Guess you've never taking an elementary physics class, huh? How could
the pressure (per square inch) be different?


You need to move on past elementary physics to understand how the
pressure could be different. If I explain to you how the pressure could
be different you won't learn it anyway.


Wrong. Physics doesn't change. It is a constant.

You're wrong when you claim that the force against the top of the rings
is the same as the force everywhere else in the cylinder.



Again, elementary physics says you are wrong.


And more advanced physics as well as reality says you are wrong.


Liar.

You're wrong when you claimed that I was the first person to start
calling names. You were.



No, sorry. Do some research. YOU are.


I did the research and showed you the result. You have not refuted it
yet. If you can, go right ahead. Find a post in the Usage of motoroil
thread where I called you a name earlier than the first post where you
called me a name. Here it is:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com

You're wrong when you claimed that I was first person to call someone a
little school girl. You did



again, you are wrong.


And again, I gave you the post showing the first time you called me a
little school girl. Here it is again:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com

You have not yet provided an earlier one showing me calling you one. So
obviously either you're just stupid or a liar or both.

You're wrong when you claimed that you never called on your daughter to
defend you.



You're wrong when you claimed that I screwed some woman out of her child
support.



When did I "claim" that?


You posted it several times. Here's one of them:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com
Here's the exact quote:
Basskisser said:
Again, go see if you can screw some woman out of her child
support...again.


Is that a "claim"? Then you've claimed many many things that weren't
true.!!

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach etiquette.



It doesn't. Please provide your Karate experience. I'll then provide
mine.
It teaches history, it teaches it's particular philosophy, it teaches
discipline. Etiquette? Nah....This weekend, I went through all of my
books, including Ed Parker, who is the father of American Kenpo
Karate. To my knowledge, he never mentions "etiquette". Of course, you
think you know more than I do on the subject, so please show where he
mentions it. Or Lee Wedlake.


I already gave you proof that it teaches etiquette. Now it's up to you
to prove I'm wrong with more than just an "I say so."


From a fluff website!!!!!!! Wow, what a *expert* you are...dolt.

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach not to panic
and to remain calm when confronted.



Never said it does not teach you "not to panic". It doesn't however,
teach you to remain "calm". Quite the contrary. When confronted, the
three principles are, in order, speed, power and intensity.


I already gave you proof that it teaches one to remain calm when
confronted. Now it's up to you to prove I'm wrong with more than just
an "I say so."


I've told you. I don't care what some fluff website told you. Ask a
REAL person...

You're wrong when you claim that under the principles of karate, it's ok
to physically attack your opponent first if you think you need to defend
your honor.



Attack or be attacked. Your choice. I know which one I, or any other
KNOWLEDGABLE martial artist will take. You?


The most absolute proof you've given so far that you know nothing about
the principles of karate if you think it's ok to attack someone
physically to defend your honor. Thanks for proving yourself so inept
without me having to even try.


Prove me wrong. Where did you get your vast Karate knowledge,
grasshopper?? BWAAAAHAAA!!!

And all that is just what I quickly found from one thread. I'm sure
there's a lot more things you were wrong about. Sad thing is, there's
nothing you were right about.



Only in YOUR eyes. It must be pure hell thinking you are the greatest!


That's better than your hell, knowing you're a bumbling idiot.

Steve


Again, narrow mindedness makes someone impossible to teach. That makes
you, well, stupid, Steve.


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On 19 Aug 2003 04:30:49 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
basskisser wrote:
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Nah, Steve, you stupid old man. You see, I get tired of drawn up
pieces of crap like you and Joe, hiding behind newsgroups. You name
call, etc. real well, when hiding behind a newsgroup, like hiding
behind mommy's skirt. But it's a different story when asked to do so
in person, huh? But, alas, you shouldn't be afraid, you've got Karate
training, right? Where did you take that training? Rank? Dojo?
Lineage? Oh, you don't know, right?

Nah, DimDummy, you stupid old man. What you get tired of is being
proven a dumb idiot with every post you make. That's why you won't
answer any more direct questions, because you now realize you're just a
stupid fool who doesn't know squat about anything. Here's a short list
of the things you've been wrong about in just this single thread that so
beautifully demonstrates your stupidity. I'm probably missing a few
things because there's so much you were wrong about, but here goes:


Yeah, sure, the same old, same old. I just love how you think you know
everything, and no one else knows anything! How did anyone ever teach
you anything? It must be hell going through life so damned important.
Did your extensive karate training teach you that? What WAS that
training, anyway?


There you go again proving you don't know how to read or understand what
you've read.

You're wrong when you said an engine normally burns NO oil. Your
ineptness in defending that indefensible position led you to be wrong
about a whole host of things, including:

I have given many examples fortifying my case, you've just either not
read them, or not understood them. Just like you, to not take any
other written material as important, other than material that YOU have
dredged up.


The only examples you've given have undermined your case.

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
speed of the wiper does not affect how much liquid is left on the
surface. That's wrong.


Glad to see you agree you were wrong.

When a wiper wipes a viscous liquid off a surface, you claimed that the
temperature of the liquid directly affects how much liquid is left on
the surface. That's wrong. The viscosity does, not the temperature.
The temp may or may not affect the viscosity.


In this case, it DOES, which makes YOU wrong when you say that temp.
doesn't affect the outcome.


Thanks for providing even more proof that you don't know how to read. I
didn't say that temp doesn't affect the outcome. I said it doesn't
directly affect the outcome, which it doesn't.


It doesn't directly affect the outcome?? Are you SERIOUS? What a
blind, dumb rat!!


Yes, I'm serious. Temperature does not directly affect the outcome and
does not need to be included in any equations describing the process as
long as viscosity is included, which I did. Viscosity directly affects
the outcome. Temperature does not. However, temperature may or may not
affect viscosity. If you truly are an engineer, you'd understand why
you're wrong. You must not be a very good engineer.

You're wrong when you claim that there must be visible blue smoke if an
engine is burning any oil, even minute amounts.


Never said that. You claimed that there doesn't have to BE SMOKE.
There does. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't
exist.


The above just proved that you don't know what the term VISIBLE means.
You're really on a roll today. You must really be a glutton for
punishment to show you're stupidity in such a flagrant manner.


You effing IDIOT, in the original post, I NEVER said the smoke had to
be visible. You added that!!! What a blind dumb rat....again!


Then why did you post this:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com
in defense of your failed argument that an engine should normally burn
NO oil? Or is it now your contention that "blue smoke clouds around
the transom" are not visible?

When oil gets through the exhaust valve stem of a running engine, it
ends up being burned. You're wrong when you claimed it doesn't.

No.....it is simply pushed out of the chamber on the exhaust stroke.
If it is bad enough, with enough cylinders leaking through valve stem
seal, then you can actually SEE oil residue on the tailpipe. Ever seen
it? If not, it's those blinders in the way again.


And now you're showing you're too stupid to learn something new since
Toyota explicitly says that oil escaping the exhaust valve stem is
BURNED, their word ... not mine.


It CAN be, and it is possible to NOT be.


WOWWWWW, stop the presses!!! Here's the first glimmer of a shift in
your position. Up until just now, you've never said it was even
possible that the oil from the exhaust valve stem was burned. Just look
2 quotes above when you said "No.....it is simply pushed out of the
chamber on the exhaust stroke." That's been your position up until this
post. Are you finally realizing that you've been wrong all along?

If you want to continue the trend, why not say yes or no to whether you
think NONE of the oil that makes it's way back into the intake via the
PCV valve or crankcase breather gets burned?

You're wrong when you claim that saying something was "consumed in the
combustion process" is not the same thing as saying it "burned".


I said this: Consumed is NOT the same as burned. PERIOD. Do you
believe that it IS?


WRONG!!! Here is an EXACT quote of my question to you and your answer
to me:

I said:
Now, do you or do you NOT contend that "burned" and "consumed in the
combustion process" DO mean the same thing?


You replied:
correct, I do NOT contend that "burned" and "consumed in the
combustion process" mean the same thing.


Okay, I know it is impossible to teach somebody something who is so
narrow minded, but I'll try. (Man, you must have been hell on teachers
trying to open up that pea brain to get something into it) Burned
means what it says. Burned. "Consumed in the combustion process" is
all together different. It COULD be burned, but doesn't have to be.
The key word is PROCESS. The sentence doesn't say that it was indeed,
without burned at the moment of combustion. The PROCESS consists of
several incidences other than the actual combustion. The process
constists of things you may have heard of, but being closed minded,
didn't sink home, like compression, intake, exhaust, and power
strokes.


This is good. You're going further down the rabbit hole of ineptness
trying to prove a patentently wrong position, and in doing so you're
making even more wrong statements that read like a bunch of crap.
"moment of combustion", "several incidences other than the actual
combustion." Meaningless drivel. The ONLY thing that distinguishes
whether you are "in the combustion process" or not is if something is
BURNING. Everything else are precursors or successors to the combustion
process.

The combustion process is the process by which combustible materials are
chemically transformed into other less combustible materials + energy by
burning them. You've just proven that you don't even understand this
simple statement.

You are NOT in the combustion process during the intake stroke. If you
are, you'll get a carb fart. However, the combustion process may extend
over several strokes. For a 4 cycle engine, the combustion process in a
cylinder starts during the end of the compression stroke, continues
during the power stroke and may or may not continue into the exhaust
stroke. It may even continue in the exhaust manifold. If it continues
too far into the exhaust stroke or too much in the manifold, you get a
backfire.

But, let's just assume for a glimmer of an instant that you're right
about one thing in your life and that "in the combustion process" means
everything from digging up the oil, refining it to gas, pumping it into
your car, all the strokes of cylinder, leaving the tailpipe and having
the exhaust breathed by the mouse on the side of the road. Even if all
that were the combustion process, as you would have us believe, the GM
quote limits it to the combustion process DURING THE POWER STROKE when
the engine looses oil on the cylinder wall.

Now we know why you're afraid to answer direct questions... because it
makes you look like a stupid moron. And now you have to deny your
stupid remarks from before. Too bad they're archived.

You were wrong when you said the GM reference never says that an engine
looses oil on the cylinder wall. It does, and the reference does say
that.


No, it doesn't.


Here's an EXACT quote of the GM reference which says an engine looses
oil on the cylinder wall. Quoted from GM Bulletin No.: 76-60-04A:
When a piston moves down its cylinder, a thin film of oil is left on
the cylinder wall. During the power stroke, part of this oil layer is
consumed in the combustion process.


See above, vacuum brain.


I just did and the above proves you were wrong. I.e., you said the GM
reference says an engine does not lose oil on the cylinder wall. The GM
reference explicitly says it does. What part of "When a piston moves
down its cylinder, a thin film of oil is left on the cylinder wall.
During the power stroke, part of this oil layer is consumed in the
combustion process." do you not understand? It really is 2 plain and
simple english sentences. Why are you having such a hard time with
them? Is it because they prove you're wrong?

Once again, proving you were wrong when you said the GM reference never
says that an engine looses oil on the cylinder wall. You're soooo easy
today.

You're wrong in thinking that the oil pressure gauge is reading the
force of the oil against the wiper ring.


Where DID I say that??


Right he
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com
when you ask "SO, just how many times 100 psi should my oil pressure
gauge show? Should it be 500 psi? 600psi" when we were talking about the
force of the oil against the downward moving wiper ring. Actually, that
post above is a good one because it shows just how confused you are on
many technical details.


Where does that say that the "gauge is reading the *FORCE* of the oil
against the wiper ring????? Do you know and understand what FORCE is??


Would it make you happier if I rephrase it to "You're wrong in thinking
that the oil pressure gauge is reading the pressure of the oil against
the wiper ring."? You're obviously too dumb to realize that saying
"*force* against the wiper ring" and "*pressure* against the wiper ring"
mean the same thing in this context because the area of the wiper ring
is known and is the same in both statements. Knowing the area in square
inches, we can easily convert force in pounds to pressure in pounds per
square inch.

So, if you truly believed that the oil pressure gauge is reading the
*pressure* of the oil against the wiper ring (which is what you said and
is plainly wrong) then you'd also have to believe that the oil pressure
gauge is reading the *force* of the oil against the wiper ring, and that
you can get the reading in pounds of force if you only multiply reading
of the gauge by the area of the applied force in square inches.

If we didn't know the area of the wiper ring, then force and pressure
would mean two different things since pressure depends on the force and
the amount of area which the force is applied.

You're wrong when you say that the pressure against the walls of the
crankcase is constant everywhere when the engine is running. Turbulence
causes that not to be true.


The flow is laminar. Your Reynold's equation says as much.


You actually believe the currents inside a running crankcase produce
laminar flow against the walls of the crankcase? If so, think some
more.


Reynold's equation that YOU posted as gossiple.


Once more, you have no idea of what you're talking about or how to read
plain english or interpret simple equations. Please provide a post
where I said the pressure against the walls of the crankcase of a
running engine is the same everywhere. Hint: you won't be able to ...
because you're wrong, again.

You're wrong when you claim that the pressure against the top of the
piston in a running normal air compressor is the same as the pressure in
the tank.


Guess you've never taking an elementary physics class, huh? How could
the pressure (per square inch) be different?


You need to move on past elementary physics to understand how the
pressure could be different. If I explain to you how the pressure could
be different you won't learn it anyway.


Wrong. Physics doesn't change. It is a constant.


Yet another stupid statement by a stupid idiot. You don't even
understand the difference in studying a static vs. dynamic situation.
You're trying to apply statics to a dynamic situation and it just won't
work. Remember, we were talking about a running compressor where a tank
is being filled.

You're wrong when you claim that the force against the top of the rings
is the same as the force everywhere else in the cylinder.


Again, elementary physics says you are wrong.


And more advanced physics as well as reality says you are wrong.


Liar.


Lol!! A one word defense to your incorrect application of statics to a
dynamic situation? You're really sinking deep now. Are you getting
frustrated being proven wrong all the time?

You're wrong when you claimed that I was the first person to start
calling names. You were.


No, sorry. Do some research. YOU are.


I did the research and showed you the result. You have not refuted it
yet. If you can, go right ahead. Find a post in the Usage of motoroil
thread where I called you a name earlier than the first post where you
called me a name. Here it is:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com


Thanks for admitting you're wrong by omission.

You're wrong when you claimed that I was first person to call someone a
little school girl. You did


again, you are wrong.


And again, I gave you the post showing the first time you called me a
little school girl. Here it is again:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com

You have not yet provided an earlier one showing me calling you one. So
obviously either you're just stupid or a liar or both.


Thanks for admitting you're wrong by omission.

You're wrong when you claimed that you never called on your daughter to
defend you.


You're wrong when you claimed that I screwed some woman out of her child
support.


When did I "claim" that?


You posted it several times. Here's one of them:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g .google.com
Here's the exact quote:
Basskisser said:
Again, go see if you can screw some woman out of her child
support...again.


Is that a "claim"? Then you've claimed many many things that weren't
true.!!


Of course that's a "claim"! Is your understanding of english really
that deficient? When you tell someone to go do something AGAIN, you're
claiming they've done it before.

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach etiquette.


It doesn't. Please provide your Karate experience. I'll then provide
mine.
It teaches history, it teaches it's particular philosophy, it teaches
discipline. Etiquette? Nah....This weekend, I went through all of my
books, including Ed Parker, who is the father of American Kenpo
Karate. To my knowledge, he never mentions "etiquette". Of course, you
think you know more than I do on the subject, so please show where he
mentions it. Or Lee Wedlake.


I already gave you proof that it teaches etiquette. Now it's up to you
to prove I'm wrong with more than just an "I say so."


From a fluff website!!!!!!! Wow, what a *expert* you are...dolt.


More proof that you were wrong if you can't even find a website that
says it does not teach etiquette, like you claimed. Considering your
track record on being wrong with everything you post, there's no way
anyone is going to just take your word for something without a credible
cite.

You're wrong when you claimed that karate does not teach not to panic
and to remain calm when confronted.


Never said it does not teach you "not to panic". It doesn't however,
teach you to remain "calm". Quite the contrary. When confronted, the
three principles are, in order, speed, power and intensity.


I already gave you proof that it teaches one to remain calm when
confronted. Now it's up to you to prove I'm wrong with more than just
an "I say so."


I've told you. I don't care what some fluff website told you. Ask a
REAL person...


We all know you don't care what a website tells you. You also don't
care what GM, Toyota and Detroit Diesel tells you when it comes to
engines if it goes against your pre-conceived and wrong notions. You
obviously can't learn anything.

You're wrong when you claim that under the principles of karate, it's ok
to physically attack your opponent first if you think you need to defend
your honor.


Attack or be attacked. Your choice. I know which one I, or any other
KNOWLEDGABLE martial artist will take. You?


The most absolute proof you've given so far that you know nothing about
the principles of karate if you think it's ok to attack someone
physically to defend your honor. Thanks for proving yourself so inept
without me having to even try.


Prove me wrong. Where did you get your vast Karate knowledge,
grasshopper?? BWAAAAHAAA!!!


I already did. Now it's up to you to prove yourself correct in your
assertion that Karate teaches that it's ok to physically attack someone
first to defend your honor or that Karate teaches that it's ok to strike
someone just because you got frustrated, as you've threatened to do.

And all that is just what I quickly found from one thread. I'm sure
there's a lot more things you were wrong about. Sad thing is, there's
nothing you were right about.


Only in YOUR eyes. It must be pure hell thinking you are the greatest!


That's better than your hell, knowing you're a bumbling idiot.


Again, narrow mindedness makes someone impossible to teach. That makes
you, well, stupid, Steve.


As they say, the proof is in the pudding, or in this case, in the posts.
Since you're always wrong about everything you post, it makes me feel
great that you're calling me stupid. Thank you for the compliment.

Steve
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On 20 Aug 2003 11:13:00 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

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going? Last night I was given my Asst. Instructor's package. I start
this evening, with a 6p.m. gold I and gold II class.


Good for you. Bad for them.

Steve


No, good for everyone involved, asshole. You see, I use the Karate
thread as proof of your idiotic you-know-everything attitude. You
don't know jack **** about the subject, NEVER had mentioned Karate in
ANY newsgroup, but then, when I mention it, all of a sudden you're an
expert!!!! Quite a coincedence, huh?


And you're wrong yet again. I never claimed to be an expert ... you
did. And since you claimed to be an expert, one would think you
wouldn't be so wrong about the few simple things I did say about Karate.
But you are.

Would you like to talk about Karate, and see which of us knows more
about it? I've even cited the father of AKK, Ed Parker, and his
understudy, Lee Wedlake, and you act like you know more than THEY


Please point out one post where I've said or acted like I know more than
THEY do. You're a stupid moron who projects his frustrations on
everyone else. I've said several times that I don't know more than they
do. However, as evidenced from your posts here, I just know more than
YOU do.

Also, with all your cites, you've proved nothing more than that you can
cut and paste. You didn't find a single quote from them that shoots
down what I said. You are a moron, and a glutton for punishment.

do!!!! So, let's talk Karate, and find out what you know. You know
NOTHING, you are a lying jackass. You can't give your ranking, your
dojo, your lineage. Why? Because you don't have any, do you? Here is a
direct question: What training in Karate do you have?


It really frustrates you that I won't answer that direct question,
doesn't it. Keep stewing it over. You're a proven stalker, and
especially now that you're doing research on me as evidenced by the palm
pilot thing, there's no way I'm answering your personal questions.
Especially when you won't even answer a direct on-topic question that
has nothing to do with your personal life.

Let's talk Karate theory. I was having a little trouble with the
extension for Raking Mace. My cover foot keeps wanting to turn toward
2 o'clock. Seeing how you are an expert, how did the Black Belt help
me correct this problem?


You should be working on your many other problems, none of which a Black
Belt can help you with.

You keep forgetting, also, that I'm a structural engineer. What do YOU
know about structural engineering? (I know, you're an EXPERT, right?
Know more than I do about it, right?) BWAAAHAAA!!!!


You're a **** poor engineer, as evidenced by the fact that you don't
even know why you're wrong about the temperature/viscosity topic as well
as many other very simple engineering concepts that you have no idea
about.

I also am a home brewer. I've taken a couple of classes in it also.
Now, I would suppose you are an expert in THAT all of a sudden, too,
right?


You really are going off the deep end. This would be a lot of fun to
watch your mental breakdown if it wasn't so sad.

All in all, it must be pure hell to be so insecure. But, I am rather
flattered that anything I mention that I do for fun, for work, etc.,
that you are so enamored that you want people to think that you, too,
know about those things.


The only person who's proven to be insecure is you. This post is a
classic example.

Steve
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On 22 Aug 2003 04:08:30 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 21 Aug 2003 10:09:06 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 20 Aug 2003 11:13:00 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
going? Last night I was given my Asst. Instructor's package. I start
this evening, with a 6p.m. gold I and gold II class.

Good for you. Bad for them.

Steve

No, good for everyone involved, asshole. You see, I use the Karate
thread as proof of your idiotic you-know-everything attitude. You
don't know jack **** about the subject, NEVER had mentioned Karate in
ANY newsgroup, but then, when I mention it, all of a sudden you're an
expert!!!! Quite a coincedence, huh?

And you're wrong yet again. I never claimed to be an expert ... you
did. And since you claimed to be an expert, one would think you
wouldn't be so wrong about the few simple things I did say about Karate.
But you are.

No, you see, it's simple. You don't know squat about Karate. I do.
Period. The end. The only simple things that you know are what you've


If you really know so much about karate, then you'd know you were wrong
when you said that there's no etiquette in karate and that karate does
not teach one to be calm when confronted. You'd also know that under
the principles of karate, it's not ok to just go around attacking people
just because you feel frustrated.


Please give any reference from Ed Parker, or Lee Wedlake (the grand
masters of Kenpo) where they state anything about "calmness" or
"etiquette". There IS traditions, but sorry, no etiquette. Do you


If you're such an expert, you should be able to find something,
somewhere where they disagree with the cites I gave you saying that
karate does teach one to be calm when confronted and that there is
etiquette, especially in practice and matches. You can't find anything
to back your position and so you want me to do your research for you?
You're a moron, plain and simple.

Would you like to talk about Karate, and see which of us knows more
about it? I've even cited the father of AKK, Ed Parker, and his
understudy, Lee Wedlake, and you act like you know more than THEY

Please point out one post where I've said or acted like I know more than
THEY do. You're a stupid moron who projects his frustrations on
everyone else. I've said several times that I don't know more than they
do. However, as evidenced from your posts here, I just know more than
YOU do.

No, you are a dolt. You don't know a damned thing about it. Again,
some stupid website that wants your money said something about calm.
You are DEAD wrong. Again, look at the masters of Kenpo Karate. Read
what they've written. Then show me where in the HELL it says anything
about being calm. Placidity is foolish in ANY defensive martial art.


Being calm under pressure is not the same thing as placidity, and I
never said it teaches placidity. And I already provided you with all
the evidence you need to see you were wrong. Just because you can't
provide me with anything that the masters of Kenpo Karate have said
which proves shows you were right isn't my fault.

Calmness will get you killed. You must be ON your toes, wary of your
surroundings. They grind this into you daily. Speed, Power, Intensity.
Quite the opposite of "calm". Again see, you don't know ****. But as
usual, you seem to think you do.


And you apparently haven't even read your own cites. One of them said
"It should be easy to spot a black belt in a crowd, s/he should walk
like a Marine on roller skates".


Haahaaahaa!!! You don't even UNDERSTAND the quote....too funny!!!!


You're laughing like an idiot again. I suppose in your case, ignorance
in more then blissful, it's euphoric.

Also, with all your cites, you've proved nothing more than that you can
cut and paste. You didn't find a single quote from them that shoots
down what I said. You are a moron, and a glutton for punishment.

Bull****, you just refuse to see that. How about Ed Parker? HE is the
father of akk, and in his words SPEED, POWER, INTENSITY.....
Please show where ANY of his, or Lee Wedlakes writings EVER mention
being CALM when under attack.


There's your stupidity shining through again. You can't argue against
the point I made so you make up your own to argue against. I never said
they teach you to remain calm when under attack. They teach you to
remain calm when in danger of being attacked, therefore calmness is a
factor in Karate and you were wrong when you said it wasn't.


Again, quite the opposite is true. You are like a cat, waiting to
pounce. Ever fiber in your body is at the ready. Eyes scanning, mind
VERY focused (the opposite of calm).


And like a cat waiting to pounce, you remain calm until the time is
right.

do!!!! So, let's talk Karate, and find out what you know. You know
NOTHING, you are a lying jackass. You can't give your ranking, your
dojo, your lineage. Why? Because you don't have any, do you? Here is a
direct question: What training in Karate do you have?

It really frustrates you that I won't answer that direct question,
doesn't it.
Because you are a lying idiot, who doesn't know **** about AKK.
Period.


There's your frustrating shining through again. Frustrated and stupid
seems to be all you can muster.


You don't know **** about karate, and never will steve. You are a
liar. You can easily give verifiable information on your training, if
you have any, without "revealing" any more about yourself than
everybody in this newsgroup already knows. But, alas, you can't
because you don't have that training.


More frustration on your part because I won't play your stupid little
game? If I were to tell you my training, you'd just say I was bragging
about it, and that's not something karate teaches... and you'd be right
for once in your life.

Keep stewing it over. You're a proven stalker, and
especially now that you're doing research on me as evidenced by the palm
pilot thing, there's no way I'm answering your personal questions.
Especially when you won't even answer a direct on-topic question that
has nothing to do with your personal life.


Please show who I've stalked, and when I stalked them. What was the
outcome? Stalking? By simply searching google newsgroups, as YOU have
done with me??


You've stalked me. It's still ongoing. You search for personal
information about me and even posted some of what you found just to let
me know you were looking for it. You've threatened to snap my neck,
you've asked for personal meetings to do just that. I've never searched
google newsgroups or anything else for personal information on you,
mainly because I couldn't care any less about a mental midget like
yourself. But you apparently have this fascination with me.

Because you don't HAVE any. You have ZERO Karate training. NONE. If
you did, you would never make a statement like you should be calm when
under attack.


YOU said that, not me. And the only reason you did say that was because
you know you're wrong when you said karate does not teach one to remain
calm when in danger. I can see you now in a room full of people...
you'll be the one jumping up and kicking the air every time someone
sneezes, the exact opposite of a marine on roller skates.


What an idiot!! I'll be the one who is AWARE of things, as opposed to
sitting calmly and NOT in the ready.


No, you'll be the one in a frantic panic lashing out at anything that
frustrates you instead of remaining calm and letting the situation
develop to see if you really are in any danger.

Let's talk Karate theory. I was having a little trouble with the
extension for Raking Mace. My cover foot keeps wanting to turn toward
2 o'clock. Seeing how you are an expert, how did the Black Belt help
me correct this problem?

You should be working on your many other problems, none of which a Black
Belt can help you with.

See, you don't know ****.....never did, never will.


Frustrated at being proven wrong all the time? You really need to let
it go. You're acting like a little crying baby who keeps getting picked
on at recess. Is that why you took up karate? Because people kept
picking on you due to your obvious stupidity?


Heehee!! What a dolt you are.... You don't know me, nor no of my
intelligence, schooling, life's goals. Yet again, you think you are
able to analyse someone. Are you trained in any profession at all?


You've already told us enough about you, and the rest is self evident.

In real life, you're a cretinous nebbish who was picked on all his life
for subnormal intelligence. So you have to come onto a nrewsgroup full
of bluster to compensate for your real life failings. But you have a
problem in that you can't hide your subnormal intelligence here either.
It's plainly obvious for all to see. So you become frustrated and lash
out by stalking your antagonist and making it known to him that you're
doing so in hopes of scaring him off. But like everything else in your
unrewarding life, it didn't work. So you have to make up an imaginary
friend to buttress your feeble attemps at debate, Walt. But that was
such an idiotic ploy and was so easy to discover what you were doing
that the only thing it accomplished was to confirm your stupidity as one
who can't even make up an imaginary supporter effectively.

You are truly a lost cause.

You keep forgetting, also, that I'm a structural engineer. What do YOU
know about structural engineering? (I know, you're an EXPERT, right?
Know more than I do about it, right?) BWAAAHAAA!!!!

You're a **** poor engineer, as evidenced by the fact that you don't
even know why you're wrong about the temperature/viscosity topic as well
as many other very simple engineering concepts that you have no idea
about.
No, I'm a very good engineer. Well trained, with an inherently keen
engineering sense. You on the other hand, are just an ignorant blow


Now THAT is the most hilarious thing you've ever posted!!! YOU have an
inherently keen engineering sense? OMFG! Everything you've posted in
this thread contradicts that.


Stupid, stupid man. Please tell all what you know about engineering.
Where did you get YOUR engineering degree? Undergrad? In what
discipline? GPA?
I've got a very successful consulting business, do you? I turn down
work daily, even with the economy in the toilet, do you?


There's your inferiority complex shining through again. At least
subconsciously you realize you're a moron.

hard, TRYING to make people think you are quite special. You are,
quite special at lying...


Since you're always wrong, I'll take that as a compliment. Especially
because you can't find a single instance of my lying in this thread or
the other one I'm making you look like a blithering fool in.


Then tell us what you're karate training is?


No. Does that frustrate you, idiot? Of course it does. If it didn't
then you wouldn't keep asking.

I also am a home brewer. I've taken a couple of classes in it also.
Now, I would suppose you are an expert in THAT all of a sudden, too,
right?

You really are going off the deep end. This would be a lot of fun to
watch your mental breakdown if it wasn't so sad.


I'm having a breakdown because I homebrew??? TOO much!!!!!


There's that strawman argument again. What a moron you are. It's your
third sentence that points to you having a breakdown, not the first two.

All in all, it must be pure hell to be so insecure. But, I am rather
flattered that anything I mention that I do for fun, for work, etc.,
that you are so enamored that you want people to think that you, too,
know about those things.

The only person who's proven to be insecure is you. This post is a
classic example.

Really? In what way are you trained to analyse people's psyche?


Your insecurity is obvious to anyone with a minimal amount of psyche
training, which I had in college. One doesn't have to be a psychologist
to see that you plainly suffer from an inferiority complex, and one that
is duly deserved in your case. Just look at your statement: "No, I'm a
very good engineer. Well trained, with an inherently keen engineering
sense."


Heeheeh!!!!! Here we go AGAIN!!!! Now he's a damned psychologist!!!!!!
Oh, this is great!!!!! WHat a laugh!!!!!!!


The maniacal laughter of a simpleminded lunatic.

That's obviously not true and is the typical empty boast of someone with
an inferiority complex. If you didn't have an inferiority complex and
were truly a very good engineer, your inherently keen engineering sense
would be self evident and you wouln't have to boast about it. It's not!


And you are an ignorant oaf, who once again, is trying to act like an
expert in something he knows NOTHING about!!!


Denial won't help you.

Steve
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