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wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment. Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? You must have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search for missing bodies. |
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wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. NCR was looking for an in country rep. My co-worker took the position. They had NCR 500 computers at each fire base for inventory control. They did not offer enough money, offered a 50% pay increase and $300 a month expense money. Don said they had to raise the expense money as the rent was higher. He probably knew the IBM rep, as it seemed all the reps rented half a retired VN generals villa. He was there for TET, and the Saigon attack was on the villa side. The generals wife was happy as they never lost power at the villa as they installed one of the spare generator for the NCR systems as backup. IBM gave you 66% and the assignment was 18 months so you didn't pay taxes. Expenses were actual and reasonable but they were pretty easy going on it. He could also eat at the GI mess hall by paying ComRats. He said he ended up pretty much banking all of the salary. He ended up with enough to buy a house when he got back. |
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2018 05:49:39 -0400, John H. wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 23:08:32 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 01:18:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:39:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 13:09:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 12:41:06 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:04:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/1/2018 9:50 PM, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 20:46:44 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:50:39 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:59:06 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: John H On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: - show quoted text - If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors). ......... I still can?t figure out that ruling. Sparks. Sparks? Really? In a place with massive muzzle blasts. Yes. Really. No reason to **** you. What are the sparks going to do that a dragons breath of flame 6 feet long won't do? As previously mentioned, a spark (as a source of ignition) can be much hotter than a flame. It is still unclear what is going to catch on fire. === Like you said, probably nothing, but some range folks have seized on that as a secondary reason. The potential for backstop damage and ricochet risk are no doubt first and foremost. Also, they can probably get more for their recycled lead as an additional economic reason. I don't even think recycling the lead has anything to do with it because when they smelt the lead, the steel and copper will float up to the top to be skimmed off. My bullet making buddy did this all the time when he was making bullets from scrap lead. As I said earlier, the design of the trap mitigates ricochets. They all ricochet into the belly of the trap. I still say, it is just to protect his investment in the trap. I know I chipped the 1/2" steel plates in mine when I was shooting something too "hot" and that was just copper over lead. I am sure the BiMetal is a bit harder than that. I do wonder how much sparking you really get tho because that metal is not really that hard. You can bugger it up quite a bit just grabbing it with pliers to pull the bullet out. I usually think of sparks with flint and hardened steel, like as hard as a file. Russian 9MM BiMetal bullet http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Tula%209mm%20bullet.jpg When I got shot in the service was a ricochet from a 38 off the target frame. Outdoor police range in Novato near the base. Base had a rifle range. === Did you get a Purple Heart or is that just for combat? A friend of mine got a Purple Heart for what he claims was an accidental discharge. I think is only a combat injury. Or combat owie according to Mr. Heinz. There were stories about guys in Vietnam getting a purple heart for a C ration can cut. Then someone bull****ted the doc. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. There was bull****ting going on in Vietnam? The whole damned debacle was bull****. It is a criminal shame that the ones who were bull****ted the most were the ones on the ground dying so LBJ could save face in a war he knew he had lost by 1966. This was what made me stop trusting the government. I was still on board up into the 70s, until I found out how much they bull****ted me. Now I don't trust a thing they say. (D or R) Greg, Greg -- we're just talking about the requirements for receiving a Purple Heart. Easy. |
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2018 14:13:58 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2018 05:52:15 -0400, John H. wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 23:01:14 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:42:38 -0400, Alex wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:43:51 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 06:11:11 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:45:10 -0400, wrote: https://tinyurl.com/ydgtok3a Lake city is mil spec stuff. === How is it possible that a brass case will attract a magnet? Is it brass plated steel? Somethings fishy. If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors). I doubt you are shooting a .308 indoors anyway. It's the largest allowed at the range. They allow .30-06 according to their website. Same basic round. That's the point. They allow me to blast away with the 7.62X54R from the Mosin Nagant. When it's there, it's the loudest thing in there! Most of the "full sized" military 30cal/7.62s or even the German 8mm are pretty similar in performance. I am just wondering how hard it is to find russian ammo that is not steel. My neighbor showed me a 50 cal can, stuffed with rusty ammo and wasn't sure what it was for. I recognized it right away and thought of you. Once I told him, he remembered he had an old Nagant around somewhere but he wasn't sure where. (At the house here, maybe in his other house in Frostproof or at the hunting cabin). I never heard if he found it. What I use. I've not found any of the cheap Russian stuff that will pass the magnet test. http://tinyurl.com/yda8pz7q |
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 14:30:09 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/3/18 1:53 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 01:18:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:39:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 13:09:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 12:41:06 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:04:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/1/2018 9:50 PM, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 20:46:44 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:50:39 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:59:06 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: John H On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: - show quoted text - If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors). ......... I still can?t figure out that ruling. Sparks. Sparks? Really? In a place with massive muzzle blasts. Yes. Really. No reason to **** you. What are the sparks going to do that a dragons breath of flame 6 feet long won't do? As previously mentioned, a spark (as a source of ignition) can be much hotter than a flame. It is still unclear what is going to catch on fire. === Like you said, probably nothing, but some range folks have seized on that as a secondary reason. The potential for backstop damage and ricochet risk are no doubt first and foremost. Also, they can probably get more for their recycled lead as an additional economic reason. I don't even think recycling the lead has anything to do with it because when they smelt the lead, the steel and copper will float up to the top to be skimmed off. My bullet making buddy did this all the time when he was making bullets from scrap lead. As I said earlier, the design of the trap mitigates ricochets. They all ricochet into the belly of the trap. I still say, it is just to protect his investment in the trap. I know I chipped the 1/2" steel plates in mine when I was shooting something too "hot" and that was just copper over lead. I am sure the BiMetal is a bit harder than that. I do wonder how much sparking you really get tho because that metal is not really that hard. You can bugger it up quite a bit just grabbing it with pliers to pull the bullet out. I usually think of sparks with flint and hardened steel, like as hard as a file. Russian 9MM BiMetal bullet http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Tula%209mm%20bullet.jpg When I got shot in the service was a ricochet from a 38 off the target frame. Outdoor police range in Novato near the base. Base had a rifle range. === Did you get a Purple Heart or is that just for combat? A friend of mine got a Purple Heart for what he claims was an accidental discharge. I think is only a combat injury. Or combat owie according to Mr. Heinz. There were stories about guys in Vietnam getting a purple heart for a C ration can cut. Mr. Kerry? I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? |
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 14:30:09 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/3/18 1:53 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 01:18:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:39:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 13:09:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 12:41:06 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:04:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/1/2018 9:50 PM, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 20:46:44 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:50:39 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:59:06 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: John H On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: - show quoted text - If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors). ......... I still can?t figure out that ruling. Sparks. Sparks? Really? In a place with massive muzzle blasts. Yes. Really. No reason to **** you. What are the sparks going to do that a dragons breath of flame 6 feet long won't do? As previously mentioned, a spark (as a source of ignition) can be much hotter than a flame. It is still unclear what is going to catch on fire. === Like you said, probably nothing, but some range folks have seized on that as a secondary reason. The potential for backstop damage and ricochet risk are no doubt first and foremost. Also, they can probably get more for their recycled lead as an additional economic reason. I don't even think recycling the lead has anything to do with it because when they smelt the lead, the steel and copper will float up to the top to be skimmed off. My bullet making buddy did this all the time when he was making bullets from scrap lead. As I said earlier, the design of the trap mitigates ricochets. They all ricochet into the belly of the trap. I still say, it is just to protect his investment in the trap. I know I chipped the 1/2" steel plates in mine when I was shooting something too "hot" and that was just copper over lead. I am sure the BiMetal is a bit harder than that. I do wonder how much sparking you really get tho because that metal is not really that hard. You can bugger it up quite a bit just grabbing it with pliers to pull the bullet out. I usually think of sparks with flint and hardened steel, like as hard as a file. Russian 9MM BiMetal bullet http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Tula%209mm%20bullet.jpg When I got shot in the service was a ricochet from a 38 off the target frame. Outdoor police range in Novato near the base. Base had a rifle range. === Did you get a Purple Heart or is that just for combat? A friend of mine got a Purple Heart for what he claims was an accidental discharge. I think is only a combat injury. Or combat owie according to Mr. Heinz. There were stories about guys in Vietnam getting a purple heart for a C ration can cut. Mr. Kerry? I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? It's for damn sure he did as much in Vietnam as you did! Liar. |
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On 3 Aug 2018 20:49:57 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment. As you've ignored any questions about your quite dubious claim of having served in Vietnam. |
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On 8/4/18 12:21 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment. Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? You must have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search for missing bodies. Why? Because of the semi-literate right-wing nonsense you post. I figure no one could be as ****ed in the head as you seem to be if they were sober. Oh, I don't drink seriously or do drugs. I've had one of my three beers for the year. |
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On 8/4/18 12:21 AM, Bill wrote:Â* Keyser Soze wrote:Â* wrote:Â* On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), BillÂ* wrote:Â* Â* Keyser Soze wrote:Â* Â* I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war?Â* Â* Â* I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. Â*MAW. Â*AndÂ* fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Â*Also wasÂ* the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based InstrumentÂ* Landing System. Â*Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor.Â* Â* High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBMÂ* to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't doÂ* it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there forÂ* Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBMÂ* unit in Danang and he said it was ugly.Â* Â* I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment.Â* Â* Â* Â* Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? Â*You mustÂ* have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search forÂ* missing bodies.Â* Â* "Why? Because of the semi-literate right-wing nonsense you post. I figureÂ* no one could be as ****ed in the head as you seem to be if they wereÂ* sober. Oh, I don't drink seriously or do drugs. I've had one of my threeÂ* beers for the year." Well said! I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post. |
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 04:21:24 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. NCR was looking for an in country rep. My co-worker took the position. They had NCR 500 computers at each fire base for inventory control. They did not offer enough money, offered a 50% pay increase and $300 a month expense money. Don said they had to raise the expense money as the rent was higher. He probably knew the IBM rep, as it seemed all the reps rented half a retired VN generals villa. He was there for TET, and the Saigon attack was on the villa side. The generals wife was happy as they never lost power at the villa as they installed one of the spare generator for the NCR systems as backup. IBM gave you 66% and the assignment was 18 months so you didn't pay taxes. Expenses were actual and reasonable but they were pretty easy going on it. He could also eat at the GI mess hall by paying ComRats. He said he ended up pretty much banking all of the salary. He ended up with enough to buy a house when he got back. I wonder if he was a local to me guy. We had an IBM in country rep in my reserve unit. E3 in reserves but in Vietnam he was equivalent of Lt.C for access. Do not know how name. Was only at the unit one summer camp. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/4/18 12:21 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment. Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? You must have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search for missing bodies. Why? Because of the semi-literate right-wing nonsense you post. I figure no one could be as ****ed in the head as you seem to be if they were sober. Oh, I don't drink seriously or do drugs. I've had one of my three beers for the year. Right wing? Only fiscally. And anybody that prevaricates and lies as much you do is either nuts, drugged or drunk. |
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Keyser Soze On 8/4/18 12:21 AM, Bill wrote:Â* Keyser Soze wrote:Â* wrote:Â* On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), BillÂ* wrote:Â* Â* Keyser Soze wrote:Â* Â* I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war?Â* Â* Â* I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. Â*MAW. Â*AndÂ* fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Â*Also wasÂ* the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based InstrumentÂ* Landing System. Â*Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor.Â* Â* High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBMÂ* to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't doÂ* it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there forÂ* Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBMÂ* unit in Danang and he said it was ugly.Â* Â* I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment.Â* Â* Â* Â* Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? Â*You mustÂ* have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search forÂ* missing bodies.Â* Â* "Why? Because of the semi-literate right-wing nonsense you post. I figureÂ* no one could be as ****ed in the head as you seem to be if they wereÂ* sober. Oh, I don't drink seriously or do drugs. I've had one of my threeÂ* beers for the year." Well said! I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post. You drunk or drugged still, Don? |
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wrote: On Fri, 03 Aug 2018 14:13:58 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 03 Aug 2018 05:52:15 -0400, John H. wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 23:01:14 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:42:38 -0400, Alex wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:43:51 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 06:11:11 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:45:10 -0400, wrote: https://tinyurl.com/ydgtok3a Lake city is mil spec stuff. === How is it possible that a brass case will attract a magnet? Is it brass plated steel? Somethings fishy. If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors). I doubt you are shooting a .308 indoors anyway. It's the largest allowed at the range. They allow .30-06 according to their website. Same basic round. That's the point. They allow me to blast away with the 7.62X54R from the Mosin Nagant. When it's there, it's the loudest thing in there! Most of the "full sized" military 30cal/7.62s or even the German 8mm are pretty similar in performance. I am just wondering how hard it is to find russian ammo that is not steel. My neighbor showed me a 50 cal can, stuffed with rusty ammo and wasn't sure what it was for. I recognized it right away and thought of you. Once I told him, he remembered he had an old Nagant around somewhere but he wasn't sure where. (At the house here, maybe in his other house in Frostproof or at the hunting cabin). I never heard if he found it. What I use. I've not found any of the cheap Russian stuff that will pass the magnet test. http://tinyurl.com/yda8pz7q I am starting to wonder if the Russian and Chinese army use anything but steel. Do you know anyone who still has some captured 7.62x39 from Vietnam? I wonder if it was steel. |
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Back on closer to topic, for a moment, anyway...
I swapped out the stock A2 compensator on my .308 for one marketed by Jerry Miculek, and it does seem to cut back on muzzle flip for sure and maybe on perceived recoil, too. The fire and brimstone coming out of it, however, seem greater than with the A2, but that may be because of different lighting, background, et cetera. Miculek's distributor is named...wait for it... BANG, Inc. at 310 Shootout Lane in Louisiana, east of Shreveport. :) It is the home of Clark Custom Guns, a company with which I've done a little bit of business some years ago. :) |
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Alex wrote: Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/3/18 1:53 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 01:18:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:39:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 13:09:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 12:41:06 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:04:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/1/2018 9:50 PM, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 20:46:44 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:50:39 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:59:06 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: John H On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: - show quoted text - If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors). ......... I still can?t figure out that ruling. Sparks. Sparks? Really? In a place with massive muzzle blasts. Yes. Really. No reason to **** you. What are the sparks going to do that a dragons breath of flame 6 feet long won't do? As previously mentioned, a spark (as a source of ignition) can be much hotter than a flame. It is still unclear what is going to catch on fire. === Like you said, probably nothing, but some range folks have seized on that as a secondary reason. The potential for backstop damage and ricochet risk are no doubt first and foremost. Also, they can probably get more for their recycled lead as an additional economic reason. I don't even think recycling the lead has anything to do with it because when they smelt the lead, the steel and copper will float up to the top to be skimmed off. My bullet making buddy did this all the time when he was making bullets from scrap lead. As I said earlier, the design of the trap mitigates ricochets. They all ricochet into the belly of the trap. I still say, it is just to protect his investment in the trap. I know I chipped the 1/2" steel plates in mine when I was shooting something too "hot" and that was just copper over lead. I am sure the BiMetal is a bit harder than that. I do wonder how much sparking you really get tho because that metal is not really that hard. You can bugger it up quite a bit just grabbing it with pliers to pull the bullet out. I usually think of sparks with flint and hardened steel, like as hard as a file. Russian 9MM BiMetal bullet http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Tula%209mm%20bullet.jpg When I got shot in the service was a ricochet from a 38 off the target frame. Outdoor police range in Novato near the base. Base had a rifle range. === Did you get a Purple Heart or is that just for combat? A friend of mine got a Purple Heart for what he claims was an accidental discharge. I think is only a combat injury. Or combat owie according to Mr. Heinz. There were stories about guys in Vietnam getting a purple heart for a C ration can cut. Mr. Kerry? I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. Thats more Fat Harry BS. He brags about his income, so he must have been highly paid. Unfortunately his outgo seems to be in excess of his prolific income streams. Should have taken some economic courses at those 3rd rate universities. Fat Harry never stopped to think about the consequences of his actions. I'll bet he now wishes he did things differently. Except for his cowardice. Once a coward always a coward. Fat Harry can't change that. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 3 Aug 2018 20:49:57 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment. As you've ignored any questions about your quite dubious claim of having served in Vietnam. He's even too cowardly to face up to his lies about being in Viet Nam under the care and supervision of an unnamed general. Were generals even alllowed to bring their boy toys to war zones? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 14:30:09 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/3/18 1:53 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 01:18:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:39:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 13:09:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 12:41:06 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:04:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/1/2018 9:50 PM, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 20:46:44 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:50:39 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:59:06 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: John H On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: - show quoted text - If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors). ......... I still can?t figure out that ruling. Sparks. Sparks? Really? In a place with massive muzzle blasts. Yes. Really. No reason to **** you. What are the sparks going to do that a dragons breath of flame 6 feet long won't do? As previously mentioned, a spark (as a source of ignition) can be much hotter than a flame. It is still unclear what is going to catch on fire. === Like you said, probably nothing, but some range folks have seized on that as a secondary reason. The potential for backstop damage and ricochet risk are no doubt first and foremost. Also, they can probably get more for their recycled lead as an additional economic reason. I don't even think recycling the lead has anything to do with it because when they smelt the lead, the steel and copper will float up to the top to be skimmed off. My bullet making buddy did this all the time when he was making bullets from scrap lead. As I said earlier, the design of the trap mitigates ricochets. They all ricochet into the belly of the trap. I still say, it is just to protect his investment in the trap. I know I chipped the 1/2" steel plates in mine when I was shooting something too "hot" and that was just copper over lead. I am sure the BiMetal is a bit harder than that. I do wonder how much sparking you really get tho because that metal is not really that hard. You can bugger it up quite a bit just grabbing it with pliers to pull the bullet out. I usually think of sparks with flint and hardened steel, like as hard as a file. Russian 9MM BiMetal bullet http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Tula%209mm%20bullet.jpg When I got shot in the service was a ricochet from a 38 off the target frame. Outdoor police range in Novato near the base. Base had a rifle range. === Did you get a Purple Heart or is that just for combat? A friend of mine got a Purple Heart for what he claims was an accidental discharge. I think is only a combat injury. Or combat owie according to Mr. Heinz. There were stories about guys in Vietnam getting a purple heart for a C ration can cut. Mr. Kerry? I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? The bigger question is what did Fat Harry do in Viet nam during that war? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 04:21:24 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. NCR was looking for an in country rep. My co-worker took the position. They had NCR 500 computers at each fire base for inventory control. They did not offer enough money, offered a 50% pay increase and $300 a month expense money. Don said they had to raise the expense money as the rent was higher. He probably knew the IBM rep, as it seemed all the reps rented half a retired VN generals villa. He was there for TET, and the Saigon attack was on the villa side. The generals wife was happy as they never lost power at the villa as they installed one of the spare generator for the NCR systems as backup. IBM gave you 66% and the assignment was 18 months so you didn't pay taxes. Expenses were actual and reasonable but they were pretty easy going on it. He could also eat at the GI mess hall by paying ComRats. He said he ended up pretty much banking all of the salary. He ended up with enough to buy a house when he got back. I wonder if he was a local to me guy. We had an IBM in country rep in my reserve unit. E3 in reserves but in Vietnam he was equivalent of Lt.C for access. Do not know how name. Was only at the unit one summer camp. He was from the midwest somewhere but I don't remember where. I doubt 2 1/2 years salary would buy a house in California in 1970. I had the same kind of thing when I went to Gitmo with IBM. I was living in the Aviation Officers Club, I had an enlisted man ID and my escort/driver was an E5 so I could go just about anywhere I wanted. |
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Justine giggles....
Snip... "Were generals even alllowed to bring their boy toys to war zones?" Say what? Was it common practice for US Army generals to have "boy toys"? How about Lt Co's? What an army...no wonder y'all were run out of Viet Nam. |
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 07:46:28 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/4/18 12:21 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment. Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? You must have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search for missing bodies. Why? Because of the semi-literate right-wing nonsense you post. I figure no one could be as ****ed in the head as you seem to be if they were sober. Oh, I don't drink seriously or do drugs. I've had one of my three beers for the year. If, as you say, you don't do drugs, how do you come up with the totally outlandish stories you enthrall yourself with? |
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 04:59:58 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
Keyser Soze On 8/4/18 12:21 AM, Bill wrote:* Keyser Soze wrote:* wrote:* On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill* wrote:* * Keyser Soze wrote:* * I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war?* * * I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. *MAW. *And* fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. *Also was* the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument* Landing System. *Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor.* * High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM* to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do* it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for* Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM* unit in Danang and he said it was ugly.* * I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment.* * * * Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? *You must* have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search for* missing bodies.* * "Why? Because of the semi-literate right-wing nonsense you post. I figure* no one could be as ****ed in the head as you seem to be if they were* sober. Oh, I don't drink seriously or do drugs. I've had one of my three* beers for the year." Well said! I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post. ....and any of his posts that denigrate your religious beliefs, eh Donna? |
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 12:34:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
Back on closer to topic, for a moment, anyway... I swapped out the stock A2 compensator on my .308 for one marketed by Jerry Miculek, and it does seem to cut back on muzzle flip for sure and maybe on perceived recoil, too. The fire and brimstone coming out of it, however, seem greater than with the A2, but that may be because of different lighting, background, et cetera. Miculek's distributor is named...wait for it... BANG, Inc. at 310 Shootout Lane in Louisiana, east of Shreveport. :) It is the home of Clark Custom Guns, a company with which I've done a little bit of business some years ago. :) More drug interactions? |
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:46:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/4/18 12:21 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment. Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? You must have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search for missing bodies. Why? Because of the semi-literate right-wing nonsense you post. I figure no one could be as ****ed in the head as you seem to be if they were sober. Oh, I don't drink seriously or do drugs. I've had one of my three beers for the year. Right wing? Only fiscally. And anybody that prevaricates and lies as much you do is either nuts, drugged or drunk. quote by Donna: Well said! I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post. |
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 11:46:34 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
Justine giggles.... Snip... "Were generals even alllowed to bring their boy toys to war zones?" Say what? Was it common practice for US Army generals to have "boy toys"? How about Lt Co's? What an army...no wonder y'all were run out of Viet Nam. If Harry went to Vietnam and 'worked' for a general, it was surely as a 'boy toy'. |
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 10:59:25 -0600 (MDT), justan wrote:
John H. Wrote in message: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 14:30:09 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/3/18 1:53 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 01:18:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:39:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 13:09:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 12:41:06 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:04:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/1/2018 9:50 PM, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 20:46:44 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:50:39 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:59:06 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: John H On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: - show quoted text - If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors). ......... I still can?t figure out that ruling. Sparks. Sparks? Really? In a place with massive muzzle blasts. Yes. Really. No reason to **** you. What are the sparks going to do that a dragons breath of flame 6 feet long won't do? As previously mentioned, a spark (as a source of ignition) can be much hotter than a flame. It is still unclear what is going to catch on fire. === Like you said, probably nothing, but some range folks have seized on that as a secondary reason. The potential for backstop damage and ricochet risk are no doubt first and foremost. Also, they can probably get more for their recycled lead as an additional economic reason. I don't even think recycling the lead has anything to do with it because when they smelt the lead, the steel and copper will float up to the top to be skimmed off. My bullet making buddy did this all the time when he was making bullets from scrap lead. As I said earlier, the design of the trap mitigates ricochets. They all ricochet into the belly of the trap. I still say, it is just to protect his investment in the trap. I know I chipped the 1/2" steel plates in mine when I was shooting something too "hot" and that was just copper over lead. I am sure the BiMetal is a bit harder than that. I do wonder how much sparking you really get tho because that metal is not really that hard. You can bugger it up quite a bit just grabbing it with pliers to pull the bullet out. I usually think of sparks with flint and hardened steel, like as hard as a file. Russian 9MM BiMetal bullet http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Tula%209mm%20bullet.jpg When I got shot in the service was a ricochet from a 38 off the target frame. Outdoor police range in Novato near the base. Base had a rifle range. === Did you get a Purple Heart or is that just for combat? A friend of mine got a Purple Heart for what he claims was an accidental discharge. I think is only a combat injury. Or combat owie according to Mr. Heinz. There were stories about guys in Vietnam getting a purple heart for a C ration can cut. Mr. Kerry? I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? The bigger question is what did Fat Harry do in Viet nam during that war? Spent his time hiding in his basement learning how to lie and enthrall boys such as Donna. |
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John H
- hide quoted text - On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 11:46:34 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:Â* Justine giggles....Â* Snip...Â* "Were generals even alllowed to bring their boy toys to warÂ* zones?"Â* Â* Â* Â* Say what?Â* Was it common practice for US Army generals to have "boy toys"?Â* How about Lt Co's?Â* What an army...no wonder y'all were run out of Viet Nam.Â* "If Harry went to Vietnam and 'worked' for a general, it was surely as a 'boy toy'."Â* Guess y'all would be the expert on "boy toys"! How many did you abuse over there? |
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 04:21:24 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. NCR was looking for an in country rep. My co-worker took the position. They had NCR 500 computers at each fire base for inventory control. They did not offer enough money, offered a 50% pay increase and $300 a month expense money. Don said they had to raise the expense money as the rent was higher. He probably knew the IBM rep, as it seemed all the reps rented half a retired VN generals villa. He was there for TET, and the Saigon attack was on the villa side. The generals wife was happy as they never lost power at the villa as they installed one of the spare generator for the NCR systems as backup. IBM gave you 66% and the assignment was 18 months so you didn't pay taxes. Expenses were actual and reasonable but they were pretty easy going on it. He could also eat at the GI mess hall by paying ComRats. He said he ended up pretty much banking all of the salary. He ended up with enough to buy a house when he got back. I wonder if he was a local to me guy. We had an IBM in country rep in my reserve unit. E3 in reserves but in Vietnam he was equivalent of Lt.C for access. Do not know how name. Was only at the unit one summer camp. He was from the midwest somewhere but I don't remember where. I doubt 2 1/2 years salary would buy a house in California in 1970. I had the same kind of thing when I went to Gitmo with IBM. I was living in the Aviation Officers Club, I had an enlisted man ID and my escort/driver was an E5 so I could go just about anywhere I wanted. You could buy a decent house on 2.5 years salary. Bought my first house in Pleasant Hill for $25,000 in 1969. 3 bedroom, 1100’, and a huge lot. I sold it in 1979 for $80k, and my house in Pleasanton was one of the more expensive at $138,500. Now about $1.4 million. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
Back on closer to topic, for a moment, anyway... I swapped out the stock A2 compensator on my .308 for one marketed by Jerry Miculek, and it does seem to cut back on muzzle flip for sure and maybe on perceived recoil, too. The fire and brimstone coming out of it, however, seem greater than with the A2, but that may be because of different lighting, background, et cetera. Miculek's distributor is named...wait for it... BANG, Inc. at 310 Shootout Lane in Louisiana, east of Shreveport. :) It is the home of Clark Custom Guns, a company with which I've done a little bit of business some years ago. :) Is that a union shop? |
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John H. wrote:
On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 07:46:28 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/4/18 12:21 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment. Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? You must have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search for missing bodies. Why? Because of the semi-literate right-wing nonsense you post. I figure no one could be as ****ed in the head as you seem to be if they were sober. Oh, I don't drink seriously or do drugs. I've had one of my three beers for the year. If, as you say, you don't do drugs, how do you come up with the totally outlandish stories you enthrall yourself with? It's narcissism, John. |
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On 8/4/18 7:51 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote: On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 04:21:24 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. NCR was looking for an in country rep. My co-worker took the position. They had NCR 500 computers at each fire base for inventory control. They did not offer enough money, offered a 50% pay increase and $300 a month expense money. Don said they had to raise the expense money as the rent was higher. He probably knew the IBM rep, as it seemed all the reps rented half a retired VN generals villa. He was there for TET, and the Saigon attack was on the villa side. The generals wife was happy as they never lost power at the villa as they installed one of the spare generator for the NCR systems as backup. IBM gave you 66% and the assignment was 18 months so you didn't pay taxes. Expenses were actual and reasonable but they were pretty easy going on it. He could also eat at the GI mess hall by paying ComRats. He said he ended up pretty much banking all of the salary. He ended up with enough to buy a house when he got back. I wonder if he was a local to me guy. We had an IBM in country rep in my reserve unit. E3 in reserves but in Vietnam he was equivalent of Lt.C for access. Do not know how name. Was only at the unit one summer camp. He was from the midwest somewhere but I don't remember where. I doubt 2 1/2 years salary would buy a house in California in 1970. I had the same kind of thing when I went to Gitmo with IBM. I was living in the Aviation Officers Club, I had an enlisted man ID and my escort/driver was an E5 so I could go just about anywhere I wanted. You could buy a decent house on 2.5 years salary. Bought my first house in Pleasant Hill for $25,000 in 1969. 3 bedroom, 1100’, and a huge lot. I sold it in 1979 for $80k, and my house in Pleasanton was one of the more expensive at $138,500. Now about $1.4 million. Bought a new house in 1973 in Loudoun County, Virginia, for $22,500. It was a 1200-square-foot trilevel subdivision house on a nice, wooded "almost" half-acre. Whoever owned it recently sold it this past April for $439,000. It was a cute starter house, and it was less than half of my annual salary at the 4A's ad agency at that time. Moved up to a new 1900-square-foot house in Great Falls, Virginia, for $79,999. It recently resold for $779,000. Built a new, custom 7,000-square-foot home in Great Falls in about 1981 for $339,000 + lot. Last time I checked on Zillow, it resold about two years ago for $1,459,000. Lots of inflation, but the most surprising was that little house in Loudoun County, from $22 and change to $439. Yowser! |
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On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 08:42:52 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/4/18 7:51 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 04:21:24 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war? I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor. High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM unit in Danang and he said it was ugly. NCR was looking for an in country rep. My co-worker took the position. They had NCR 500 computers at each fire base for inventory control. They did not offer enough money, offered a 50% pay increase and $300 a month expense money. Don said they had to raise the expense money as the rent was higher. He probably knew the IBM rep, as it seemed all the reps rented half a retired VN generals villa. He was there for TET, and the Saigon attack was on the villa side. The generals wife was happy as they never lost power at the villa as they installed one of the spare generator for the NCR systems as backup. IBM gave you 66% and the assignment was 18 months so you didn't pay taxes. Expenses were actual and reasonable but they were pretty easy going on it. He could also eat at the GI mess hall by paying ComRats. He said he ended up pretty much banking all of the salary. He ended up with enough to buy a house when he got back. I wonder if he was a local to me guy. We had an IBM in country rep in my reserve unit. E3 in reserves but in Vietnam he was equivalent of Lt.C for access. Do not know how name. Was only at the unit one summer camp. He was from the midwest somewhere but I don't remember where. I doubt 2 1/2 years salary would buy a house in California in 1970. I had the same kind of thing when I went to Gitmo with IBM. I was living in the Aviation Officers Club, I had an enlisted man ID and my escort/driver was an E5 so I could go just about anywhere I wanted. You could buy a decent house on 2.5 years salary. Bought my first house in Pleasant Hill for $25,000 in 1969. 3 bedroom, 1100’, and a huge lot. I sold it in 1979 for $80k, and my house in Pleasanton was one of the more expensive at $138,500. Now about $1.4 million. Bought a new house in 1973 in Loudoun County, Virginia, for $22,500. It was a 1200-square-foot trilevel subdivision house on a nice, wooded "almost" half-acre. Whoever owned it recently sold it this past April for $439,000. It was a cute starter house, and it was less than half of my annual salary at the 4A's ad agency at that time. Moved up to a new 1900-square-foot house in Great Falls, Virginia, for $79,999. It recently resold for $779,000. Built a new, custom 7,000-square-foot home in Great Falls in about 1981 for $339,000 + lot. Last time I checked on Zillow, it resold about two years ago for $1,459,000. Lots of inflation, but the most surprising was that little house in Loudoun County, from $22 and change to $439. Yowser! I paid $31k for the house in Clinton in 1971 and I got $2000 knocked off of the price because of a dispute on the financing. It was 4Br 2 1/2 bath (split foyer) but I am not sure what the Sq/Ft was because I am not sure how you rate the lower floor. Most of it was finished tho. I am guessing 1800 sq/ft finished before the addition. Half acre lot http://gfretwell.com/ftp/72house.jpg after addition http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg Note the vintage cars ;-) I don't have a clue what it is worth today but my ex bought the vacant lot next door so it is now on an acre and the woods behind the house looks like it may be woods for the foreseeable future. That goes on for quite a ways, merging into the regional park. If they haven't changed the rules, it is enough land to allow hunting and I am sure it holds deer. When I was hunting I have taken rabbits and squirrels out of there. |
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