Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 6/18/18 4:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/18/2018 4:05 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/18/18 3:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/18/2018 2:56 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/18/18 2:50 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/18/2018 2:13 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:


On 6/18/18 1:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I stand corrected. I recently discovered that there is at least
one other"detention" center besides the two I mentioned in
previous posts.

It's a smaller one in Texas, near the border where illegals who have
been rounded up are held until they can be transferred to one of the
other facilities. Could be more of these, I suppose and the living
conditions are not as good as the bigger facilities.

My humble apologies.


No problem. I haven't seen a list and accompanying photos/videos
of every facility where these people are being stashed. I don't
what what the standards are for these facilities. I don't know how
many kids were separated from their moms or dads every month under
previous presidents and under Trump.

What I do know is that separating kids from their parents,
siblings, et cetera, is heartbreaking and presents Americans who
really care about how their country projects itself to them and to
those outside the country a true picture of the horrors of Trump &
Thugs, Inc.

I know Trump thinks being tough on immigrants helps him with his
base. I don't think it will help him with anyone else, and anyone
else is still the majority in this country.


BTW ... with regard to another issue we discussed, I have learned
that indeed, there *is* a federal statute governing the separation of
kids and their parents in the detainee facilities.

The law says they cannot be separated for more than 72 hours.
As long as those kids who have parents are reunited before
then, the law is being followed.

I don't have any knowledge of how long they are being separated other
than one report that indicated they are "typically" reunited in two
days or less.


I've heard reports that a number of the kids are not returned within
72 hours. Again, we don't have real data. I've also heard that the
federal agents handling this matter claim they are being overwhelmed
by the tremendous number of kids being detained away from their
parents, and that in one facility there were only four social
workers looking out over these kids over a 24 hour period. This is a
real stink bomb.


It is and is not easily solved. Close one bureau draw and another
pops open. I suggested to BOA that there are really only a few choices:

1. Repeal all immigration laws and establish open borders.
2. Rewrite immigration laws that make you feel better.
3. Enforce existing immigration laws, which is what Trump
is doing.
4. Just keep blaming Trump for everything and be satisfied with the
status quo.
5. If you can't decide, just call Trump a pig and call it a day.


Several estimates state Trump will have 20,000 Latino kids in
detention/concentration camps by August. That seems to represent a
doubling of the number are there now. That should infuriate all but
the basest of Trump's base. But I am sure racist pigs like Herring
will still favor it.

There are more possibilities than you specify. Trump could end the
current practice of incarcerating Latino kids with one phone call.




And do what with them?




Keep them with their parents until decent temporary housing can be found
for them, and if there isn't enough, build more. Perhaps on military
bases, where there is plentiful "free" land. That's just an idea.


Better to send them back home so they can hit the books and learn
how to do it legally. They aren't supposed to be our
responsibility. By the way, you just love to spend other peoples
money. Eh Fat Harry?
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