On 6/18/2018 4:31 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 4:13:04 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/18/2018 4:05 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/18/18 3:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/18/2018 2:56 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/18/18 2:50 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/18/2018 2:13 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:


On 6/18/18 1:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I stand corrected.Â* I recently discovered that there is at least
one other"detention" center besides the two I mentioned in
previous posts.

It's a smaller one in Texas, near the border where illegals who have
been rounded up are held until they can be transferred to one of the
other facilities.Â* Could be more of these, I suppose and the living
conditions are not as good as the bigger facilities.

My humble apologies.


No problem. I haven't seen a list and accompanying photos/videos of
every facility where these people are being stashed. I don't what
what the standards are for these facilities. I don't know how many
kids were separated from their moms or dads every month under
previous presidents and under Trump.

What I do know is that separating kids from their parents,
siblings, et cetera, is heartbreaking and presents Americans who
really care about how their country projects itself to them and to
those outside the country a true picture of the horrors of Trump &
Thugs, Inc.

I know Trump thinks being tough on immigrants helps him with his
base. I don't think it will help him with anyone else, and anyone
else is still the majority in this country.


BTW ... with regard to another issue we discussed, I have learned
that indeed, there *is* a federal statute governing the separation of
kids and their parents in the detainee facilities.

The law says they cannot be separated for more than 72 hours.
As long as those kids who have parents are reunited before
then, the law is being followed.

I don't have any knowledge of how long they are being separated other
than one report that indicated they are "typically" reunited in two
days or less.


I've heard reports that a number of the kids are not returned within
72 hours. Again, we don't have real data. I've also heard that the
federal agents handling this matter claim they are being overwhelmed
by the tremendous number of kids being detained away from their
parents, and that in one facility there were only four social workers
looking out over these kids over a 24 hour period. This is a real
stink bomb.


It is and is not easily solved.Â* Close one bureau draw and another
pops open. I suggested to BOA that there are really only a few choices:

1. Repeal all immigration laws and establish open borders.
2. Rewrite immigration laws that make you feel better.
3. Enforce existing immigration laws, which is what Trump
Â*Â*Â* is doing.
4. Just keep blaming Trump for everything and be satisfied with the
Â*Â*Â* status quo.
5. If you can't decide, just call Trump a pig and call it a day.


Several estimates state Trump will have 20,000 Latino kids in
detention/concentration camps by August. That seems to represent a
doubling of the number are there now. That should infuriate all but the
basest of Trump's base. But I am sure racist pigs like Herring will
still favor it.

There are more possibilities than you specify. Trump could end the
current practice of incarcerating Latino kids with one phone call.




And do what with them?

"Several estimates" How will the number double? They are spending about two days in protective custody, and then they are returned to their parents who are sent back across the border or granted a chance at asylum, right? Where's the doubling coming from?

Sounds like more liberal media BS designed to rouse the rabble.



Exactly. It's the best issue yet so far ... better than collusion with
Russians, better than meeting with Kim, even better than Stormy Daniels
or golden showers when one considers the mid-terms rapidly approaching.

The longer this emotionally charged issue smacks the public in the face
everyday, the better it is for the Dems in November.

Now, *who* is really playing politics or "negotiating" using innocent
kids as their tool?

On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 17:15:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



Exactly. It's the best issue yet so far ... better than collusion with
Russians, better than meeting with Kim, even better than Stormy Daniels
or golden showers when one considers the mid-terms rapidly approaching.

The longer this emotionally charged issue smacks the public in the face
everyday, the better it is for the Dems in November.

Now, *who* is really playing politics or "negotiating" using innocent
kids as their tool?


Trump should just say, "every district that elects a democrat
congressman gets your share of the refugees dropped at your door. Try
to make them comfortable."