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Rope vs line... again
On Monday, November 29, 1993 at 6:53:54 AM UTC-6, wrote:
I need an opinion form the rest of the rec.boaters out there. As many of you know, I used the word rope in a discussion about anchors. Someone pointed out that it was a line rather than a rope. I looked it up in Webster and determined that line and rope are the same thing, but the guy listed below is still giving me a hard time about it. What do the rest of you think. Is there really any difference between rope and line? If I told someone around here to "give me a line", I would either get fishing line or an offer to sleep with them. If I ask for a rope, I will get exactly what I wanted. Now am I expected to use "line" when I mean "rope", just because Fabbian says I should? *********** Begin discussion from e-mail ************* written by dsc written by dsc Like you said, I *can* say rope... Sure you can. But it won't be correct nautical usage. In the world of boats rope is stuff you buy on reels so you can make up lines. In other words, rope is the raw material from which lines are made. Once rope is cut to length and employed for a specific use on a boat it is called a line. That's all a bunch of crap... No, it isn't. It's an instruction in proper usage. Perhaps you have some iconoclastic reason to remain ignorant of proper usage but that doesn't alter the facts. Ignorance is excusable and easily cured with a bit of education. Your kind of agressive, determined ignorance is just plain stupid. -- --Fabbian G.Dufoe, III 350 Ling-A-Mor Terrace South | St. Petersburg, FL 33705 | internet: 813-823-2350 | uucp: ...palan!deep6!nifty!fgd3 ********** End discussion form e-mail *********** Sorry, It's not ignorance... I am aware that "line" is used to mean rope by many boaters, but its also called rope by many boaters. You know when I first started this discussion, quite by accident, I was kind of joking around with it. But now I'm kinda ****ed about it. There was a discussion on here about snobbery amongst boaters and I have the feeling that this rope/line thing fits perfectly... people that say line think they are better/above people that say rope. Fabbian, by your own definition ("Once rope is cut to length and employed for a specific use on a boat it is called a line.") the thing tied to my anchor is a rope. It doesn't have a specific use. I use it for a great many things, on the boat and off. And I stand by by belief that "rope" and "line" are interchangeable in most uses on land or water. Of course, If you are on a vessle with a chain of command that says use "line", you better use "line" because it is correct on *that* vessel. On my boat, I'm the command (don't tell my wife), and I will understand and accept either "line" or "rope" with out making any assumptions about your intelligence level. dsc In USCG boot camp many years ago, we were told that "rope" is in the warehouse, and "line" is on the job. Even if it's stored on a boat/ship, it's still "line" - kept in the "line locker". It refers more to its status or use than being a physical difference. |
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10:37 - show quoted text - When you tie it to an anchor it is a rode and if it is tied to a sail it is a sheet. Back in the sailing ship days, when most of these terms were coined, they had ropes going everywhere so they wanted to more closely define each use one may have. ...... That’s what I always thought. If it was “towable” or “tossable” it’s usually a “line”. If it’s to be more of a solid fixture like for masts and sails then it’s a “rope” not necessarily a “line” and on an anchor it’s a “rode” Interesting... |
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On Thursday, 14 June 2018 12:54:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
10:37 - show quoted text - When you tie it to an anchor it is a rode and if it is tied to a sail it is a sheet. Back in the sailing ship days, when most of these terms were coined, they had ropes going everywhere so they wanted to more closely define each use one may have. ..... That’s what I always thought. If it was “towable” or “tossable” it’s usually a “line”. If it’s to be more of a solid fixture like for masts and sails then it’s a “rope” not necessarily a “line” and on an anchor it’s a “rode” Interesting... If it's to raise a sail, it's a halyard...to control a sail, a sheet. If used to tie up small dinghies, a painter. To tie up a larger vessel, a line (that is bow line, stern line, spring lines etc) |
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:08:33 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: On Thursday, 14 June 2018 12:54:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote: 10:37 - show quoted text - When you tie it to an anchor it is a rode and if it is tied to a sail it is a sheet. Back in the sailing ship days, when most of these terms were coined, they had ropes going everywhere so they wanted to more closely define each use one may have. ..... That’s what I always thought. If it was “towable” or “tossable” it’s usually a “line”. If it’s to be more of a solid fixture like for masts and sails then it’s a “rope” not necessarily a “line” and on an anchor it’s a “rode” Interesting... If it's to raise a sail, it's a halyard...to control a sail, a sheet. If used to tie up small dinghies, a painter. To tie up a larger vessel, a line (that is bow line, stern line, spring lines etc) Like I said, on an old sailing vessel with rope going everywhere they had to give them distinctive names to know what the hell they were talking about. |
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Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text - This has to be close to a record for one of the oldest threads on rec.boats.. OP posted it on November 29, 1993. ....... I thought I’d seen a few from the late 80s |
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 21:53:20 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:12:55 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:08:33 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Thursday, 14 June 2018 12:54:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote: 10:37 - show quoted text - When you tie it to an anchor it is a rode and if it is tied to a sail it is a sheet. Back in the sailing ship days, when most of these terms were coined, they had ropes going everywhere so they wanted to more closely define each use one may have. ..... That’s what I always thought. If it was “towable” or “tossable” it’s usually a “line”. If it’s to be more of a solid fixture like for masts and sails then it’s a “rope” not necessarily a “line” and on an anchor it’s a “rode” Interesting... If it's to raise a sail, it's a halyard...to control a sail, a sheet. If used to tie up small dinghies, a painter. To tie up a larger vessel, a line (that is bow line, stern line, spring lines etc) Like I said, on an old sailing vessel with rope going everywhere they had to give them distinctive names to know what the hell they were talking about. === Line is rope with a purpose. Rope is a raw material waiting to be made into something useful, like a sheet, halyard, anchor rode, dock line, dinghy painter, etc. There you go. Great way to explain it. ;-) |
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