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Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 2:51:05 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/13/18 2:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2018 1:50 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/13/18 1:31 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:03:41 -0400, John H.
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:03:44 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Mr. Luddite

- show quoted text -

"Can't Norway, Harry's model socialistic country, with one of the
highest
living standards, rich with oil and free health care afford to
train and
equip their own Marines?"


You do know that Norway's population is just over 5 million people.
I'm Sure they to the best they can with that limitation.
So they need 700 US Marines? They have a decent sized military. Why
the US Marines unless they're
looking for a tripwire?

I think 700 recon marines could take Norway.

The Norwegians spend their resources on improving and sustaining the
lives of their fellow citizens. They have relatively small armed forces.
And like most socialists, if there's something they want, they expect
someone else to provide it for them.

Let them train and equip their own Marines.



Ahh, Trump isolationism. You've really slid into the abyss.

One minute you're whining that we spend too much on our military, and the next you're a proponent of spending more on our military so we can send troops to a country that won't spend the money themselves.

You're quite the whiny, confused little democrat, aren't you?


Worse, he doesn't pay his taxes so it not even his money.
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On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 7:33:28 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 2:51:05 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/13/18 2:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2018 1:50 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/13/18 1:31 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:03:41 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:03:44 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Mr. Luddite

- show quoted text -

"Can't Norway, Harry's model socialistic country, with one of the
highest
living standards, rich with oil and free health care afford to
train and
equip their own Marines?"


You do know that Norway's population is just over 5 million people.
I'm Sure they to the best they can with that limitation.
So they need 700 US Marines? They have a decent sized military. Why
the US Marines unless they're
looking for a tripwire?

I think 700 recon marines could take Norway.

The Norwegians spend their resources on improving and sustaining the
lives of their fellow citizens. They have relatively small armed forces.
And like most socialists, if there's something they want, they expect
someone else to provide it for them.

Let them train and equip their own Marines.



Ahh, Trump isolationism. You've really slid into the abyss.

One minute you're whining that we spend too much on our military, and the next you're a proponent of spending more on our military so we can send troops to a country that won't spend the money themselves.

You're quite the whiny, confused little democrat, aren't you?


Worse, he doesn't pay his taxes so it not even his money.


If you don't pay your taxes like harry krause, you should lose your right to vote.
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:18:24 -0400, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/13/18 8:24 AM, Tim wrote:

7:10 AMKeyser Soze
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I don't have a "brand new" Ducati.
.........


I know...


Mine has 4250 miles, several years old, hardly new. No dents or
scratches, though.


Let's see a picture of the motorcycle and odometer with a current
newspaper in the photo, too. I'll give you a chance to win your $100 back.


Does it have to be a 'real' newspaper, or would an imaginary one do the job. Harry's Ducati came
about after Tim and I started talking motorcycles. I think the poor boy just wants to be part of the
gang. I'd have to see the title in the picture also. Hell, he'd probably pay some Ducati owner to
let him take a photo.

He's a right sneaky little bugger.
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 14:28:11 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Justine giggles...


"We aren't in the mercenary business. There are plenty out there*
*willing to protect Norway..... for a price. Aparently Norwegians*
*don't want to help themselves."


Stupid talk Justine.
What chance would they have against Russia? If Russia did take them over what would your leader do...invite Putin to a golden shower party?


Have you ever heard of NATO, donnee? Norway needn't stand alone against Russia. All one is asking is
that they pay their fair share of the load, which they haven't been doing.
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:29:04 -0400, Keyser Soze
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Norway is smart about money and resources...from Wiki:

In March 2017, the Government Pension Fund controlled assets were valued
at approximately US$913 billion (equal to US$182,000 per capita), which
is about 178% of Norway's current GDP. It is the largest sovereign
wealth fund in the world. The fund controls about 1.3% of all listed
shares in Europe, and more than 1% of all the publicly traded shares in
the world. The Norwegian Central Bank operates investment offices in
London, New York, and Shanghai. Guidelines implemented in 2007 allow the
fund to invest up to 60% of the capital in shares (maximum of 40%
prior), while the rest may be placed in bonds and real-estate. As the
stock markets tumbled in September 2008, the fund was able to buy more
shares at low prices. In this way, the losses incurred by the market
turmoil was recuperated by November 2009.

Other nations with economies based on natural resources, such as Russia,
are trying to learn from Norway by establishing similar funds. The
investment choices of the Norwegian fund are directed by ethical
guidelines; for example, the fund is not allowed to invest in companies
that produce parts for nuclear weapons. Norway's highly transparent
investment scheme is lauded by the international community. The future
size of the fund is closely linked to the price of oil and to
developments in international financial markets.

In 2000, the government sold one-third of the state-owned oil company
Statoil in an IPO. The next year, the main telecom supplier, Telenor,
was listed on Oslo Stock Exchange. The state also owns significant
shares of Norway's largest bank, DnB NOR and the airline SAS. Since
2000, economic growth has been rapid, pushing unemployment down to
levels not seen since the early 1980s (unemployment in 2007: 1.3%). The
international financial crisis has primarily affected the industrial
sector, but unemployment has remained low, and was at 3.3% (86,000
people) in August 2011.

Norway contains significant mineral resources, and in 2013, its mineral
production was valued at US$1.5 billion (Norwegian Geological Survey
data). The most valuable minerals are calcium carbonate (limestone),
building stone, nepheline syenite, olivine, iron, titanium, and nickel.

Norway is also the world's second-largest exporter of fish (in value,
after China). Hydroelectric plants generate roughly 98–99% of Norway's
electric power, more than any other country in the world.

Somehow, I think the Norwegians will figure out how to secure their future.


I am sure they will because they "privatized" their old age pension
fund and invested it in real things instead of just spending the money
and putting IOUs in the box. They are not dipping into the general
fund or borrowing money to pay their pensioners.
Their "future" is secure as long as we keep them safe and they should
doing that themselves, not sponging off of us.


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On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:50:54 -0400, Keyser Soze
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On 6/13/18 4:42 PM, Bill wrote:


And why are you opposed to social security funds in the stock market?


My recollection is that the private wall street banksters were lobbying
to "invest" those funds and earn their profit off it. Norges Bank
belongs to the people of Norway.


Norway invests all over the world in all sorts of things, Those
investments return real capital gains. The SS/MC funds are not really
invested in anything. There are just IOUs in the box and the
government spent the money on things that do not generate any income
for the government. They chalk up phony interest payments but some of
the money has to be borrowed from someone else when they actually have
to pay people the benefits they promise.

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On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:02:10 -0400, Keyser Soze
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That must be why we waste a trillion bucks a year on the military.


We waste a trillion dollars a year protecting the sovereignty of rich
socialist states who like to tell us how badly they hate us. It would
not break my heart if we just pulled back, saved half of that DoD
budget and told those people to spend their own money defending
themselves.
We can still sell them the weapons ... at a handsome profit, as you
say.

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On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:18:24 -0400, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/13/18 8:24 AM, Tim wrote:

7:10 AMKeyser Soze
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I don't have a "brand new" Ducati.
.........


I know...


Mine has 4250 miles, several years old, hardly new. No dents or
scratches, though.


Let's see a picture of the motorcycle and odometer with a current
newspaper in the photo, too. I'll give you a chance to win your $100 back.


With Harry sitting on it.
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On 6/13/18 10:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:29:04 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


Norway is smart about money and resources...from Wiki:

In March 2017, the Government Pension Fund controlled assets were valued
at approximately US$913 billion (equal to US$182,000 per capita), which
is about 178% of Norway's current GDP. It is the largest sovereign
wealth fund in the world. The fund controls about 1.3% of all listed
shares in Europe, and more than 1% of all the publicly traded shares in
the world. The Norwegian Central Bank operates investment offices in
London, New York, and Shanghai. Guidelines implemented in 2007 allow the
fund to invest up to 60% of the capital in shares (maximum of 40%
prior), while the rest may be placed in bonds and real-estate. As the
stock markets tumbled in September 2008, the fund was able to buy more
shares at low prices. In this way, the losses incurred by the market
turmoil was recuperated by November 2009.

Other nations with economies based on natural resources, such as Russia,
are trying to learn from Norway by establishing similar funds. The
investment choices of the Norwegian fund are directed by ethical
guidelines; for example, the fund is not allowed to invest in companies
that produce parts for nuclear weapons. Norway's highly transparent
investment scheme is lauded by the international community. The future
size of the fund is closely linked to the price of oil and to
developments in international financial markets.

In 2000, the government sold one-third of the state-owned oil company
Statoil in an IPO. The next year, the main telecom supplier, Telenor,
was listed on Oslo Stock Exchange. The state also owns significant
shares of Norway's largest bank, DnB NOR and the airline SAS. Since
2000, economic growth has been rapid, pushing unemployment down to
levels not seen since the early 1980s (unemployment in 2007: 1.3%). The
international financial crisis has primarily affected the industrial
sector, but unemployment has remained low, and was at 3.3% (86,000
people) in August 2011.

Norway contains significant mineral resources, and in 2013, its mineral
production was valued at US$1.5 billion (Norwegian Geological Survey
data). The most valuable minerals are calcium carbonate (limestone),
building stone, nepheline syenite, olivine, iron, titanium, and nickel.

Norway is also the world's second-largest exporter of fish (in value,
after China). Hydroelectric plants generate roughly 98–99% of Norway's
electric power, more than any other country in the world.

Somehow, I think the Norwegians will figure out how to secure their future.


I am sure they will because they "privatized" their old age pension
fund and invested it in real things instead of just spending the money
and putting IOUs in the box. They are not dipping into the general
fund or borrowing money to pay their pensioners.
Their "future" is secure as long as we keep them safe and they should
doing that themselves, not sponging off of us.


And, once again, without our international commitments, there would be
more justification for shrinking our outrageous military budgets.
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