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Over the weekend I bought a 1985 28 ft. Sun Teacker pontoon boat. It’s last registration number was MO7765 BW. Trailer plate number is Missouri 7OE 8JS
It has 1- 85hp Mercury outboard to push it. Not twin Volvo diesels. Yes it is a real pontoon boat and not an imaginary trawler. Nothing fake about it. |
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Tim wrote:
Over the weekend I bought a 1985 28 ft. Sun Teacker pontoon boat. It’s last registration number was MO7765 BW. Trailer plate number is Missouri 7OE 8JS It has 1- 85hp Mercury outboard to push it. Not twin Volvo diesels. Yes it is a real pontoon boat and not an imaginary trawler. Nothing fake about it. Well,someone had to buy a 30+ year old pontoon boat...guess it had to be you or Fretwell. -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. |
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4:43 PMKeyser Söze - show quoted text - Well,someone had to buy a 30+ year old pontoon boat...guess it had to be you or Fretwell. -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. .......... Yep! And it’s real too. Just like my gold wing and Moto Guzzi. They’re not an imaginary Ducati |
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On 6/10/18 5:57 PM, Tim wrote:
Yep! And it’s real too. Just like my gold wing and Moto Guzzi. They’re not an imaginary Ducati Yep! And it’s real too. Just like my gold wing and Moto Guzzi. They’re not an imaginary Ducati What, no Cushman? They have or had nice fat tires, too. |
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5:13 PMKeyser Soze On 6/10/18 5:57 PM, Tim wrote: Yep! And it’s real too. Just like my gold wing and Moto Guzzi. They’re not an imaginary Ducati Yep! And it’s real too. Just like my gold wing and Moto Guzzi. They’re not an imaginary Ducati What, no Cushman? They have or had nice fat tires, too. .......... No, but if I did have one it wouldn’t be fake. |
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:43:19 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: Tim wrote: Over the weekend I bought a 1985 28 ft. Sun Teacker pontoon boat. It’s last registration number was MO7765 BW. Trailer plate number is Missouri 7OE 8JS It has 1- 85hp Mercury outboard to push it. Not twin Volvo diesels. Yes it is a real pontoon boat and not an imaginary trawler. Nothing fake about it. Well,someone had to buy a 30+ year old pontoon boat...guess it had to be you or Fretwell. 30 is a young pup. mine is 44. It gets a new motor every 3000 hours or so tho. My 2012 F70 just rolled 1500 so it is about half done. |
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10:11 On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:43:19 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: - show quoted text - 30 is a young pup. mine is 44. It gets a new motor every 3000 hours or so tho. My 2012 F70 just rolled 1500 so it is about half done. —————- My 1994 Mercury Grand Markus just rolled over 127xxx |
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 14:31:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
Over the weekend I bought a 1985 28 ft. Sun Teacker pontoon boat. Its last registration number was MO7765 BW. Trailer plate number is Missouri 7OE 8JS It has 1- 85hp Mercury outboard to push it. Not twin Volvo diesels. Yes it is a real pontoon boat and not an imaginary trawler. Nothing fake about it. Congratulations, Tim! |
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:29:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
5:13 PMKeyser Soze On 6/10/18 5:57 PM, Tim wrote: Yep! And its real too. Just like my gold wing and Moto Guzzi. Theyre not an imaginary Ducati Yep! And its real too. Just like my gold wing and Moto Guzzi. Theyre not an imaginary Ducati What, no Cushman? They have or had nice fat tires, too. ......... No, but if I did have one it wouldnt be fake. Good point. |
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: 10:11 On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:43:19 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: - show quoted text - 30 is a young pup. mine is 44. It gets a new motor every 3000 hours or so tho. My 2012 F70 just rolled 1500 so it is about half done. —————- My 1994 Mercury Grand Markus just rolled over 127xxx That is probably 3500 hours or so. How much was in salt water ;-) |
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - That is probably 3500 hours or so. How much was in salt water ;-) ———/- None that I know of Greg. It’s alwai been a fresh lake craft. I looked over the toons and no pitting that I could tell |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:05:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - That is probably 3500 hours or so. How much was in salt water ;-) ———/- None that I know of Greg. It’s alwai been a fresh lake craft. I looked over the toons and no pitting that I could tell I was really talking about your 127k mile Mercury but that is good news on the pontoon. Pitting on the pontoons will be right at the water line and the spider cracks will be at the welds where it joins to the risers. Usually they are in the back one or two. The other thing that can crack welds is hitting something hard with one pontoon and "racking" the boat. Again it usually shows up in the corners. If in doubt, pressure test the toons and look around with soapy water in a spray bottle. A shop vac on "blow" is plenty of pressure for that. The other thing you want to look at is the deck rotting. Look at the edges of the sheets and at penetrations. That is where it starts. If everything was sealed well, the deck will last decades. |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:05:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - That is probably 3500 hours or so. How much was in salt water ;-) ———/- None that I know of Greg. It’s alwai been a fresh lake craft. I looked over the toons and no pitting that I could tell I was really talking about your 127k mile Mercury but that is good news on the pontoon. Pitting on the pontoons will be right at the water line and the spider cracks will be at the welds where it joins to the risers. Usually they are in the back one or two. The other thing that can crack welds is hitting something hard with one pontoon and "racking" the boat. Again it usually shows up in the corners. If in doubt, pressure test the toons and look around with soapy water in a spray bottle. A shop vac on "blow" is plenty of pressure for that. The other thing you want to look at is the deck rotting. Look at the edges of the sheets and at penetrations. That is where it starts. If everything was sealed well, the deck will last decades. .......... I’ve looked it over well for cracks etc. honestly, I can’t find a dent in anything. The very front tip of the left hand tube is slightly bent but not enough to make an issue about. And the boat is plank on nstead of sheets. Interesting. I haven’t found anything to be concerned about with the exception that I’m going to get a new transom engine mount. The wood is getting a bit spongy looking. It’s gotta go. |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:05:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - That is probably 3500 hours or so. How much was in salt water ;-) ———/- None that I know of Greg. It’s alwai been a fresh lake craft. I looked over the toons and no pitting that I could tell I was really talking about your 127k mile Mercury but that is good news on the pontoon. Pitting on the pontoons will be right at the water line and the spider cracks will be at the welds where it joins to the risers. Usually they are in the back one or two. The other thing that can crack welds is hitting something hard with one pontoon and "racking" the boat. Again it usually shows up in the corners. If in doubt, pressure test the toons and look around with soapy water in a spray bottle. A shop vac on "blow" is plenty of pressure for that. The other thing you want to look at is the deck rotting. Look at the edges of the sheets and at penetrations. That is where it starts. If everything was sealed well, the deck will last decades. ......... I’ve looked it over well for cracks etc. honestly, I can’t find a dent in anything. The very front tip of the left hand tube is slightly bent but not enough to make an issue about. And the boat is plank on nstead of sheets. Interesting. I haven’t found anything to be concerned about with the exception that I’m going to get a new transom engine mount. The wood is getting a bit spongy looking. It’s gotta go. Yup you don't want your motor falling off in the lake. I had to do the wood in mine about 28 years ago ;-) If this is the regular 1.5" keystone looking piece that fits in an aluminum motor pod, 2 pieces of 3/4" Exterior grade AC plywood laminated together with waterproof Tite Bond and screwed with stainless screws will last for quite a while if you seal it with epoxy resin after you get it assembled. Just be sure to seal the holes where you mount the motor. That dent on the nose is what I was talking about when I said hitting something with one pontoon. Look to see if there is water in them and do a pressure test for leaks. A TIG guy can fix them pretty easily. |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim - show quoted text - Yup you don't want your motor falling off in the lake. I had to do the wood in mine about 28 years ago ;-) If this is the regular 1.5" keystone looking piece that fits in an aluminum motor pod, 2 pieces of 3/4" Exterior grade AC plywood laminated together with waterproof Tite Bond and screwed with stainless screws will last for quite a while if you seal it with epoxy resin after you get it assembled. Just be sure to seal the holes where you mount the motor. That dent on the nose is what I was talking about when I said hitting something with one pontoon. Look to see if there is water in them and do a pressure test for leaks. A TIG guy can fix them pretty easily. ......... I’m thinking that while I’m pulling the engine anyhow I might as well mount the 115. 80 hp sounds big but this is a big pontoon. I’m not into speed but don’t want to be loaded down and maybe break 20 knots |
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On 6/12/18 7:06 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim - show quoted text - Yup you don't want your motor falling off in the lake. I had to do the wood in mine about 28 years ago ;-) If this is the regular 1.5" keystone looking piece that fits in an aluminum motor pod, 2 pieces of 3/4" Exterior grade AC plywood laminated together with waterproof Tite Bond and screwed with stainless screws will last for quite a while if you seal it with epoxy resin after you get it assembled. Just be sure to seal the holes where you mount the motor. That dent on the nose is what I was talking about when I said hitting something with one pontoon. Look to see if there is water in them and do a pressure test for leaks. A TIG guy can fix them pretty easily. ........ I’m thinking that while I’m pulling the engine anyhow I might as well mount the 115. 80 hp sounds big but this is a big pontoon. I’m not into speed but don’t want to be loaded down and maybe break 20 knots Actually, speed might help your slow-wittedness. |
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6:11 AMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Actually, speed might help your slow-wittedness. ...... Why do you say that? Your imaginary Ducati never helped yours.... |
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On 6/12/18 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:
6:11 AMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Actually, speed might help your slow-wittedness. ..... Why do you say that? Your imaginary Ducati never helped yours.... I was referring to methamphetamine, aka speed. Taking some might help your slow-wittedness. |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:34:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/12/18 7:27 AM, Tim wrote: 6:11 AMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Actually, speed might help your slow-wittedness. ..... Why do you say that? Your imaginary Ducati never helped yours.... I was referring to methamphetamine, aka speed. Taking some might help your slow-wittedness. Was discussing you with a friend, Harry. Given that you're a lying, narcissistic asshole, we decided that you could improve yourself greatly by giving up the lying. Of course, you'd still be a narcissistic asshole, so the improvement might not win many friends. But, might be worth a try, eh Krause? |
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6:34 AMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I was referring to methamphetamine, aka speed. Taking some might help your slow-wittedness. ...... Why take that stuff, I can’t see it helped your case any. Besides I was talking about a more powerful engine and not drugs. But you purposlydidn’t recognize that evidently.... |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:11:44 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: Actually, speed might help your slow-wittedness. === Well aren't you the grumpy little turd blossom this morning. There's an old saying, perhaps unknown to someone as quick witted and highly educated as yourself, that says: If you don't have anything good to say, it's better to say nothing at all. |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim - show quoted text - Yup you don't want your motor falling off in the lake. I had to do the wood in mine about 28 years ago ;-) If this is the regular 1.5" keystone looking piece that fits in an aluminum motor pod, 2 pieces of 3/4" Exterior grade AC plywood laminated together with waterproof Tite Bond and screwed with stainless screws will last for quite a while if you seal it with epoxy resin after you get it assembled. Just be sure to seal the holes where you mount the motor. That dent on the nose is what I was talking about when I said hitting something with one pontoon. Look to see if there is water in them and do a pressure test for leaks. A TIG guy can fix them pretty easily. ........ I?m thinking that while I?m pulling the engine anyhow I might as well mount the 115. 80 hp sounds big but this is a big pontoon. I?m not into speed but don?t want to be loaded down and maybe break 20 knots Does that toon have the lifting strakes to get it up on plane? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 6/12/18 7:27 AM, Tim wrote: 6:11 AMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Actually, speed might help your slow-wittedness. ..... Why do you say that? Your imaginary Ducati never helped yours.... I was referring to methamphetamine, aka speed. Taking some might help your slow-wittedness. Do these kinds of meaningless stupid remarks help with your depression/ despair? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Tim Wrote in message: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim - show quoted text - I?m thinking that while I?m pulling the engine anyhow I might as well mount the 115. 80 hp sounds big but this is a big pontoon. I?m not into speed but don?t want to be loaded down and maybe break 20 knots Does that toon have the lifting strakes to get it up on plane? ...... No sir, just plain tubes -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 08:35:44 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 6/12/18 7:27 AM, Tim wrote: 6:11 AMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Actually, speed might help your slow-wittedness. ..... Why do you say that? Your imaginary Ducati never helped yours.... I was referring to methamphetamine, aka speed. Taking some might help your slow-wittedness. Do these kinds of meaningless stupid remarks help with your depression/ despair? === It must be a required step in his ar'sl recertification process. |
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6:56 AMJohn H - show quoted text - Was discussing you with a friend, Harry. Given that you're a lying, narcissistic asshole, we decided that you could improve yourself greatly by giving up the lying. Of course, you'd still be a narcissistic asshole, so the improvement might not win many friends. But, might be worth a try, eh Krause? ............... Obviously he hasn’t read the book “How to win friends and influence people” |
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On 6/12/18 7:56 AM, Tim wrote:
6:34 AMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I was referring to methamphetamine, aka speed. Taking some might help your slow-wittedness. ..... Why take that stuff, I can’t see it helped your case any. Besides I was talking about a more powerful engine and not drugs. But you purposlydidn’t recognize that evidently.... The only ancient outboard engines that interest me are the Merc 10 racing engine from the late 1940s and the Evinrude Lightwin 3 hp engines from the early to mid-1950s. |
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On 6/12/18 8:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:11:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Actually, speed might help your slow-wittedness. === Well aren't you the grumpy little turd blossom this morning. There's an old saying, perhaps unknown to someone as quick witted and highly educated as yourself, that says: If you don't have anything good to say, it's better to say nothing at all. Why, W'hine, let me know when you follow the advice in the adage you posted. |
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Tim Wrote in message: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim - show quoted text - Yup you don't want your motor falling off in the lake. I had to do the wood in mine about 28 years ago ;-) If this is the regular 1.5" keystone looking piece that fits in an aluminum motor pod, 2 pieces of 3/4" Exterior grade AC plywood laminated together with waterproof Tite Bond and screwed with stainless screws will last for quite a while if you seal it with epoxy resin after you get it assembled. Just be sure to seal the holes where you mount the motor. That dent on the nose is what I was talking about when I said hitting something with one pontoon. Look to see if there is water in them and do a pressure test for leaks. A TIG guy can fix them pretty easily. ........ I?m thinking that while I?m pulling the engine anyhow I might as well mount the 115. 80 hp sounds big but this is a big pontoon. I?m not into speed but don?t want to be loaded down and maybe break 20 knots Does that toon have the lifting strakes to get it up on plane? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ -- x I don't know much about toons but I suspect you are destined to operate at hull speed no matter the HP. ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:07:40 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/12/18 8:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:11:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Actually, speed might help your slow-wittedness. === Well aren't you the grumpy little turd blossom this morning. There's an old saying, perhaps unknown to someone as quick witted and highly educated as yourself, that says: If you don't have anything good to say, it's better to say nothing at all. Why, W'hine, let me know when you follow the advice in the adage you posted. The advice he gave you was good. Ergo, he did. |
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On 6/12/18 10:11 AM, justan wrote:
justan Wrote in message: Tim Wrote in message: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim - show quoted text - Yup you don't want your motor falling off in the lake. I had to do the wood in mine about 28 years ago ;-) If this is the regular 1.5" keystone looking piece that fits in an aluminum motor pod, 2 pieces of 3/4" Exterior grade AC plywood laminated together with waterproof Tite Bond and screwed with stainless screws will last for quite a while if you seal it with epoxy resin after you get it assembled. Just be sure to seal the holes where you mount the motor. That dent on the nose is what I was talking about when I said hitting something with one pontoon. Look to see if there is water in them and do a pressure test for leaks. A TIG guy can fix them pretty easily. ........ I?m thinking that while I?m pulling the engine anyhow I might as well mount the 115. 80 hp sounds big but this is a big pontoon. I?m not into speed but don?t want to be loaded down and maybe break 20 knots Does that toon have the lifting strakes to get it up on plane? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ I thought you had a co-starring role in the revival of a 'toon series...in which you'll play Un-Wile Coyote. |
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justan Wrote in message: Tim Wrote in message: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim - show quoted text - Yup you don't want your motor falling off in the lake. I had to do the wood in mine about 28 years ago ;-) If this is the regular 1.5" keystone looking piece that fits in an aluminum motor pod, 2 pieces of 3/4" Exterior grade AC plywood laminated together with waterproof Tite Bond and screwed with stainless screws will last for quite a while if you seal it with epoxy resin after you get it assembled. Just be sure to seal the holes where you mount the motor. That dent on the nose is what I was talking about when I said hitting something with one pontoon. Look to see if there is water in them and do a pressure test for leaks. A TIG guy can fix them pretty easily. ........ I?m thinking that while I?m pulling the engine anyhow I might as well mount the 115. 80 hp sounds big but this is a big pontoon. I?m not into speed but don?t want to be loaded down and maybe break 20 knots Does that toon have the lifting strakes to get it up on plane? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ -- x I don't know much about toons but I suspect you are destined to operate at hull speed no matter the HP. - show quoted text - ............. I’d say so. The waterline does show the front tipped yo for the weight being in the back. It will play a bit. I’m not really sure how many hp it’d take to make this thing plane. It’s sure nothing like a v-hull |
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On 6/12/18 7:56 AM, Tim wrote: 6:34 AMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I was referring to methamphetamine, aka speed. Taking some might help your slow-wittedness. ..... Why take that stuff, I can?t see it helped your case any. Besides I was talking about a more powerful engine and not drugs. But you purposlydidn?t recognize that evidently.... The only ancient outboard engines that interest me are the Merc 10 racing engine from the late 1940s and the Evinrude Lightwin 3 hp engines from the early to mid-1950s. Zat what yur daddie gave you to play with when you were a child? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:07:40 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 6/12/18 8:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:11:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Actually, speed might help your slow-wittedness. === Well aren't you the grumpy little turd blossom this morning. There's an old saying, perhaps unknown to someone as quick witted and highly educated as yourself, that says: If you don't have anything good to say, it's better to say nothing at all. Why, W'hine, let me know when you follow the advice in the adage you posted. === I think that if you add up the derogatory comments that you make vs the ones that I make, you'll see that I'm hopelessly behind in the insult race. |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 05:52:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: justan Tim Wrote in message: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim - show quoted text - I?m thinking that while I?m pulling the engine anyhow I might as well mount the 115. 80 hp sounds big but this is a big pontoon. I?m not into speed but don?t want to be loaded down and maybe break 20 knots Does that toon have the lifting strakes to get it up on plane? ..... No sir, just plain tubes Strakes don't start helping until you get a much bigger motor on there. Typically a "go fast" pontoon will have the 3d log and at least a 250 on it. |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:16:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: I’d say so. The waterline does show the front tipped yo for the weight being in the back. It will play a bit. I’m not really sure how many hp it’d take to make this thing plane. It’s sure nothing like a v-hull Pontoons don't really plane. There is a definite step they get up on but it is not really planing. They tend to hit a wall after they get up on the step and a whole lot more power only returns modest gains in speed. |
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10:53 On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 05:52:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: justan Tim Wrote in message: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim - show quoted text - I?m thinking that while I?m pulling the engine anyhow I might as well mount the 115. 80 hp sounds big but this is a big pontoon. I?m not into speed but don?t want to be loaded down and maybe break 20 knots Does that toon have the lifting strakes to get it up on plane? ..... No sir, just plain tubes Strakes don't start helping until you get a much bigger motor on there. Typically a "go fast" pontoon will have the 3d log and at least a 250 on it. ........ Agreed. I’ll go 115 and be done with it. If I want fast I’ll get fast. But I do want this to move ...some. |
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On 6/12/18 10:45 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:07:40 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/12/18 8:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:11:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Actually, speed might help your slow-wittedness. === Well aren't you the grumpy little turd blossom this morning. There's an old saying, perhaps unknown to someone as quick witted and highly educated as yourself, that says: If you don't have anything good to say, it's better to say nothing at all. Why, W'hine, let me know when you follow the advice in the adage you posted. === I think that if you add up the derogatory comments that you make vs the ones that I make, you'll see that I'm hopelessly behind in the insult race. He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone... |
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