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On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 8:07:49 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/27/2018 7:53 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/27/18 7:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 15:25:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the "complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula." Strange dude. I suspect Trump has proposed a deal he can live with, along with the South Koreans. They are still tuning it but there is a huge win-win for both of them here. I still bet Kim still gets to keep a nuke or two. I have said, a more troubling thing for world trade might be South Korean technology linked to virtual slave labor in the North.Â* The North would think it was great because they were far better paid slaves. I doubt we see a lot more freedom right away, similar to China and Vietnam but when you are in the dark, a candle is a bright light. Unfortunately, if they can cut several grand off the cost of a Kia or a few hundred off of a LG big screen, it will be hard to compete. Samsung phones would get cheaper too and that is where the world is going Americans truly love the products of near-slave labor. At least you spelled "Americans" correctly this time. Making progress Harry. Keep it up. And he posted pic of his Chinese Walmart cabinets. Heh. |
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On Sun, 27 May 2018 19:53:16 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/27/18 7:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 15:25:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the "complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula." Strange dude. I suspect Trump has proposed a deal he can live with, along with the South Koreans. They are still tuning it but there is a huge win-win for both of them here. I still bet Kim still gets to keep a nuke or two. I have said, a more troubling thing for world trade might be South Korean technology linked to virtual slave labor in the North. The North would think it was great because they were far better paid slaves. I doubt we see a lot more freedom right away, similar to China and Vietnam but when you are in the dark, a candle is a bright light. Unfortunately, if they can cut several grand off the cost of a Kia or a few hundred off of a LG big screen, it will be hard to compete. Samsung phones would get cheaper too and that is where the world is going Americans truly love the products of near-slave labor. At least you see my concern. Unfortunately so does the rest of the world. |
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On Sun, 27 May 2018 20:04:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 5/27/2018 7:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 15:25:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the "complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula." Strange dude. I suspect Trump has proposed a deal he can live with, along with the South Koreans. They are still tuning it but there is a huge win-win for both of them here. I still bet Kim still gets to keep a nuke or two. I have said, a more troubling thing for world trade might be South Korean technology linked to virtual slave labor in the North. The North would think it was great because they were far better paid slaves. I doubt we see a lot more freedom right away, similar to China and Vietnam but when you are in the dark, a candle is a bright light. Unfortunately, if they can cut several grand off the cost of a Kia or a few hundred off of a LG big screen, it will be hard to compete. Samsung phones would get cheaper too and that is where the world is going I don't think the North Korean issue is going to be solved in a few meetings. It's going to take many and time. I heard a potential deal proposal that made sense to me. It consisted of an incremental relaxation of sanctions as North Korea meets certain negotiated milestones in terms of the verified shutdown of their nuke and ballistic missile programs. Further relaxation of sanctions and even financial and technical assistance in the improvement of conditions in NK would follow as Kim agrees and implements programs and policies that further peaceful co-existence with the South and other neighbors. I read or heard somewhere that Kim was educated in the West. He may have personal views and ideas for the future of NK that differ from his father and grandfather. I just have to think about how fast the Soviets crumbled once the ball started rolling down the hill. He has to start wondering how long he can keep the big lie going. If Kim can get out in front of that he can end up being the leader of a much richer country and that is usually good. |
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On 5/27/2018 11:42 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2018 20:04:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/27/2018 7:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 15:25:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the "complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula." Strange dude. I suspect Trump has proposed a deal he can live with, along with the South Koreans. They are still tuning it but there is a huge win-win for both of them here. I still bet Kim still gets to keep a nuke or two. I have said, a more troubling thing for world trade might be South Korean technology linked to virtual slave labor in the North. The North would think it was great because they were far better paid slaves. I doubt we see a lot more freedom right away, similar to China and Vietnam but when you are in the dark, a candle is a bright light. Unfortunately, if they can cut several grand off the cost of a Kia or a few hundred off of a LG big screen, it will be hard to compete. Samsung phones would get cheaper too and that is where the world is going I don't think the North Korean issue is going to be solved in a few meetings. It's going to take many and time. I heard a potential deal proposal that made sense to me. It consisted of an incremental relaxation of sanctions as North Korea meets certain negotiated milestones in terms of the verified shutdown of their nuke and ballistic missile programs. Further relaxation of sanctions and even financial and technical assistance in the improvement of conditions in NK would follow as Kim agrees and implements programs and policies that further peaceful co-existence with the South and other neighbors. I read or heard somewhere that Kim was educated in the West. He may have personal views and ideas for the future of NK that differ from his father and grandfather. I just have to think about how fast the Soviets crumbled once the ball started rolling down the hill. He has to start wondering how long he can keep the big lie going. If Kim can get out in front of that he can end up being the leader of a much richer country and that is usually good. Same thing happened in China as it's population became more aware of the western world and how people lived largely due to sending selected members of their population to the USA, Canada and other western world countries for their advanced education. They were initially looking to benefit from modern agricultural methods and engineering technology but it began to backfire when the students returned to China spreading wild stories about how the rest of the world lived. Chinese leadership was smart enough to know they couldn't keep the masses in the dark forever without them eventually revolting so they started opening up areas in China to some of the concepts of capitalism and individual ownership of businesses. Started slowly in the 70's, became more active in the 80's and look at China's economy today. |
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On 5/27/18 11:42 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2018 20:04:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/27/2018 7:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 15:25:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the "complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula." Strange dude. I suspect Trump has proposed a deal he can live with, along with the South Koreans. They are still tuning it but there is a huge win-win for both of them here. I still bet Kim still gets to keep a nuke or two. I have said, a more troubling thing for world trade might be South Korean technology linked to virtual slave labor in the North. The North would think it was great because they were far better paid slaves. I doubt we see a lot more freedom right away, similar to China and Vietnam but when you are in the dark, a candle is a bright light. Unfortunately, if they can cut several grand off the cost of a Kia or a few hundred off of a LG big screen, it will be hard to compete. Samsung phones would get cheaper too and that is where the world is going I don't think the North Korean issue is going to be solved in a few meetings. It's going to take many and time. I heard a potential deal proposal that made sense to me. It consisted of an incremental relaxation of sanctions as North Korea meets certain negotiated milestones in terms of the verified shutdown of their nuke and ballistic missile programs. Further relaxation of sanctions and even financial and technical assistance in the improvement of conditions in NK would follow as Kim agrees and implements programs and policies that further peaceful co-existence with the South and other neighbors. I read or heard somewhere that Kim was educated in the West. He may have personal views and ideas for the future of NK that differ from his father and grandfather. I just have to think about how fast the Soviets crumbled once the ball started rolling down the hill. He has to start wondering how long he can keep the big lie going. If Kim can get out in front of that he can end up being the leader of a much richer country and that is usually good. Again, if there is a real deal, it will be negotiated between North and South Korea. I don't believe Trump is a factor in that. I don't believe Trump has what it takes to engage in serious negotiations. He doesn't seem to think through benefits and costs, or engage in meaningful compromises. He’s excellent at bluster but little else. He's a terrible big league dealmaker. International politics isn't the same as making flaky real estate deals. |
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On 5/28/2018 11:51 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/27/18 11:42 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 20:04:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/27/2018 7:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 15:25:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the "complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula." Strange dude. I suspect Trump has proposed a deal he can live with, along with the South Koreans. They are still tuning it but there is a huge win-win for both of them here. I still bet Kim still gets to keep a nuke or two. I have said, a more troubling thing for world trade might be South Korean technology linked to virtual slave labor in the North.Â* The North would think it was great because they were far better paid slaves. I doubt we see a lot more freedom right away, similar to China and Vietnam but when you are in the dark, a candle is a bright light. Unfortunately, if they can cut several grand off the cost of a Kia or a few hundred off of a LG big screen, it will be hard to compete. Samsung phones would get cheaper too and that is where the world is going I don't think the North Korean issue is going to be solved in a few meetings.Â* It's going to take many and time. I heard a potential deal proposal that made sense to me.Â* It consisted of an incremental relaxation of sanctions as North Korea meets certain negotiated milestones in terms of the verified shutdown of their nuke and ballistic missile programs.Â* Further relaxation of sanctions and even financial and technical assistance in the improvement of conditions in NK would follow as Kim agrees and implements programs and policies that further peaceful co-existence with the South and other neighbors. I read or heard somewhere that Kim was educated in the West.Â* He may have personal views and ideas for the future of NK that differ from his father and grandfather. I just have to think about how fast the Soviets crumbled once the ball started rolling down the hill. He has to start wondering how long he can keep the big lie going. If Kim can get out in front of that he can end up being the leader of a much richer country and that is usually good. Again, if there is a real deal, it will be negotiated between North and South Korea. I don't believe Trump is a factor in that. I don't believe Trump has what it takes to engage in serious negotiations. He doesn't seem to think through benefits and costs, or engage in meaningful compromises. He’s excellent at bluster but little else. He's a terrible big league dealmaker. International politics isn't the same as making flaky real estate deals. Again you revert to insults of your President due to your clinging of progressive liberal ideology. I think you should be careful because someday you may be apologizing for most of your posts or making excuses for them Trump is a major factor in even getting North and South Korea talking. He has been a major factor in getting global support of tough sanctions. He's also a major factor in representing most of the nations on the planet who would like to see peace and denuclearizing of the Korean peninsula. So far, the talks between the South and the North have been negotiations leading to a meeting by Trump. I say, give him a chance. So far he's been doing a great job as POTUS. |
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On Mon, 28 May 2018 11:51:29 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/27/18 11:42 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 20:04:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/27/2018 7:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2018 15:25:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the "complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula." Strange dude. I suspect Trump has proposed a deal he can live with, along with the South Koreans. They are still tuning it but there is a huge win-win for both of them here. I still bet Kim still gets to keep a nuke or two. I have said, a more troubling thing for world trade might be South Korean technology linked to virtual slave labor in the North. The North would think it was great because they were far better paid slaves. I doubt we see a lot more freedom right away, similar to China and Vietnam but when you are in the dark, a candle is a bright light. Unfortunately, if they can cut several grand off the cost of a Kia or a few hundred off of a LG big screen, it will be hard to compete. Samsung phones would get cheaper too and that is where the world is going I don't think the North Korean issue is going to be solved in a few meetings. It's going to take many and time. I heard a potential deal proposal that made sense to me. It consisted of an incremental relaxation of sanctions as North Korea meets certain negotiated milestones in terms of the verified shutdown of their nuke and ballistic missile programs. Further relaxation of sanctions and even financial and technical assistance in the improvement of conditions in NK would follow as Kim agrees and implements programs and policies that further peaceful co-existence with the South and other neighbors. I read or heard somewhere that Kim was educated in the West. He may have personal views and ideas for the future of NK that differ from his father and grandfather. I just have to think about how fast the Soviets crumbled once the ball started rolling down the hill. He has to start wondering how long he can keep the big lie going. If Kim can get out in front of that he can end up being the leader of a much richer country and that is usually good. Again, if there is a real deal, it will be negotiated between North and South Korea. I don't believe Trump is a factor in that. I don't believe Trump has what it takes to engage in serious negotiations. He doesn't seem to think through benefits and costs, or engage in meaningful compromises. He’s excellent at bluster but little else. He's a terrible big league dealmaker. International politics isn't the same as making flaky real estate deals. It is just impossible for you to believe Trump can do anything. |
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