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So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the
"complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Strange dude.

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On 5/27/18 3:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the
"complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Strange dude.

No stranger than Trump.

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On 5/27/2018 3:41 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/27/18 3:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the
"complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Strange dude.

No stranger than Trump.


Of course not Harry.

Seems to me that Trump in his "strangeness" is forcing the issue.

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On Sun, 27 May 2018 15:25:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the
"complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Strange dude.

Trump won, for now. Wonder how CNN and MSNBC will put this down.

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On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 3:25:59 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the
"complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Strange dude.

It's the pendulum effect. Sandler sales technique. When someone is eager, you push them away. Then they go. "I want to play"!

Trump is a irritating asshole, but he's no dummy.

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On 5/27/2018 5:48 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 3:25:59 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the
"complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Strange dude.

It's the pendulum effect. Sandler sales technique. When someone is eager, you push them away. Then they go. "I want to play"!

Trump is a irritating asshole, but he's no dummy.



Ha. I know that technique well although I never formally learned it. I
won a few large contracts by "no bidding" them. Drives a customer nuts.
They want to know why. You explain what bothers you about the contract
specs or requirements and they usually end up modifying it.

I had one that we were in the final meeting discussing terms and
conditions. We were about to be awarded a large contract by a
customer who was aware that we were also building two systems for
their competitor. They started getting all hussy about non-disclosures
and told me they were going to legally "tie me up" with respect to
their equipment which was really based on *our* standard design.

When I started getting lectured about this and it reached a certain
point I announced (in front of about 12 of their representatives)
that I was getting some bad vibes about this and I felt that in our best
mutual interests we should not enter into a contract. Picked up my
briefcase, put my paperwork back in it and told them I could see my way out.

12 people sat there at the conference table with their chins on their
chests.

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On Sun, 27 May 2018 15:25:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the
"complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Strange dude.

I suspect Trump has proposed a deal he can live with, along with the
South Koreans. They are still tuning it but there is a huge win-win
for both of them here. I still bet Kim still gets to keep a nuke or
two.
I have said, a more troubling thing for world trade might be South
Korean technology linked to virtual slave labor in the North. The
North would think it was great because they were far better paid
slaves. I doubt we see a lot more freedom right away, similar to China
and Vietnam but when you are in the dark, a candle is a bright light.

Unfortunately, if they can cut several grand off the cost of a Kia or
a few hundred off of a LG big screen, it will be hard to compete.
Samsung phones would get cheaper too and that is where the world is
going

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On Sun, 27 May 2018 18:09:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/27/2018 5:48 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 3:25:59 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the
"complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Strange dude.

It's the pendulum effect. Sandler sales technique. When someone is eager, you push them away. Then they go. "I want to play"!

Trump is a irritating asshole, but he's no dummy.



Ha. I know that technique well although I never formally learned it. I
won a few large contracts by "no bidding" them. Drives a customer nuts.
They want to know why. You explain what bothers you about the contract
specs or requirements and they usually end up modifying it.

I had one that we were in the final meeting discussing terms and
conditions. We were about to be awarded a large contract by a
customer who was aware that we were also building two systems for
their competitor. They started getting all hussy about non-disclosures
and told me they were going to legally "tie me up" with respect to
their equipment which was really based on *our* standard design.

When I started getting lectured about this and it reached a certain
point I announced (in front of about 12 of their representatives)
that I was getting some bad vibes about this and I felt that in our best
mutual interests we should not enter into a contract. Picked up my
briefcase, put my paperwork back in it and told them I could see my way out.

12 people sat there at the conference table with their chins on their
chests.



Maybe Trump took lessons from you.

Flip Flop
 

On 5/27/18 7:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2018 15:25:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the
"complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Strange dude.

I suspect Trump has proposed a deal he can live with, along with the
South Koreans. They are still tuning it but there is a huge win-win
for both of them here. I still bet Kim still gets to keep a nuke or
two.
I have said, a more troubling thing for world trade might be South
Korean technology linked to virtual slave labor in the North. The
North would think it was great because they were far better paid
slaves. I doubt we see a lot more freedom right away, similar to China
and Vietnam but when you are in the dark, a candle is a bright light.

Unfortunately, if they can cut several grand off the cost of a Kia or
a few hundred off of a LG big screen, it will be hard to compete.
Samsung phones would get cheaper too and that is where the world is
going


Americans truly love the products of near-slave labor.

Flip Flop
 

On 5/27/2018 7:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2018 18:09:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/27/2018 5:48 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 3:25:59 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
So, today Kim Jong Un says he's all for meeting with Trump and the
"complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

Strange dude.

It's the pendulum effect. Sandler sales technique. When someone is eager, you push them away. Then they go. "I want to play"!

Trump is a irritating asshole, but he's no dummy.



Ha. I know that technique well although I never formally learned it. I
won a few large contracts by "no bidding" them. Drives a customer nuts.
They want to know why. You explain what bothers you about the contract
specs or requirements and they usually end up modifying it.

I had one that we were in the final meeting discussing terms and
conditions. We were about to be awarded a large contract by a
customer who was aware that we were also building two systems for
their competitor. They started getting all hussy about non-disclosures
and told me they were going to legally "tie me up" with respect to
their equipment which was really based on *our* standard design.

When I started getting lectured about this and it reached a certain
point I announced (in front of about 12 of their representatives)
that I was getting some bad vibes about this and I felt that in our best
mutual interests we should not enter into a contract. Picked up my
briefcase, put my paperwork back in it and told them I could see my way out.

12 people sat there at the conference table with their chins on their
chests.




Maybe Trump took lessons from you.


Very doubtful.

But, every time I engage in a debate about Trump with Mrs.E. (who is a
Trumpster through and through), she reminds me that his negotiating
style is similar to what I used to do sometimes.

I earned a reputation as being fair and honest (that's what people tell
me anyway) but I always had the philosophy that you should never, ever
let anyone ... be it a customer, a potential customer, a vendor or even
an employee hold a gun to your head. Better to walk away than to cave,
even if it is to your disadvantage (which is usually short-term).